>>86613507It doesnt always have to be idolshit, Vtubing was always a cute girl being fun or playing games, I like karaokes, and i can get the purity/unicorn shtick, but idolfaggotry was the worst thing the hobby picked up. Most of the idol animes and idol cheers and memes were always shit. Idol fans are just the weeb version of theater kids, only women and gay men actually like it