>>56163246Geishas were trained, yes.
Vtubers on the other hand are like regular e-girls, they just occasionally sing mediocrely and step side to side ("""""dance""""", if they even hold 3D "concerts"). Any labels assigned to holos by holofags like 'idol' or 'singer' are bastardization of said terms and exist to make them feel special and separate from regular streamers when they barely differ from those 99% of the time. Same goes for labels they assign to themselves, like "gachikoi, purityfag, idolfag, unicorn" and maybe some more. These are just different flavors of "paypigginess" pretending to be any different from let's say pokimane simps.
All of this is very pathetic and this is why everyone outside of this board call certain vtuber fandoms "bronies". What I said mostly applies to holokeks, but there are others who are guilty of of being this cringe as well.