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anyone on either side that's still fighting over this stuff, whether you're a chink anti or a guy seething over china, is just pathetic. it's been 4 years. in the time that's passed, a kid who would've been in middle school could be entering their first year of college/graduating high school. a girl who would've been pregnant at the time would be planning to send their kid to school soon. half the holos were still young and now many of them have reached hag status. back when this happened, HoloID2 was still 3 months away form being announced. back when this happened, the newest holo debut was Gura.