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What I find even stranger is people into idols who AREN'T into otaku stuff. Like talking to Fuwamoco fans who don't play VNs, don't play old games, don't watch older shows or anime at ALL, don't even listen to Japanese music in some cases, and yet like JP oriented idols? Like how do you get into this stuff without listening to stuff like スローモーション by Akina Nakamori or ANRI?