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Recently on several sites I frequently visit that don't talk about Vtubers that they're suddenly talking and posting a lot more about them, but they're not often talking about Hololive. Instead they talk about indies, Phase and sometimes ironmouse. What's worse though is what they're saying. They're typically calling them weird, boring, ethots, whores, their viewers simps, and all manner of other things.
In conclusion, I think these groups bad reputation has started to amass to the point they're genuinely damaging the reputation of Hololive and vtubers as a whole simply from how bad they are.
How can this be fixed anons?