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Honestly, I'm tired of even trying now, at least just acknowledge my arguments instead of handwaving them. It's like talking to a brick wall. I'm gonna say it the last time, the reason why I'm against open VC is because it encourages grooming behavior. "VC but the fans are muted while the talent is around" is fine to me. The latter is similar to prechat while the former is detrimental in the future. Also, sorry for shitting up the thread. It wasn't my intention.