imagine if poko had to deal with rincels
also kill all gaslighters
>>96193369yeah probably, that whole disaster changed EN vtubing a lot. I know I've seen people talk about like mint and doki show you don't need a corpo to do stuff, but it's like, where do you think they got almost all of their audience that enables to do stuff from? they'd obviously do things differently, but give them a time machine and they're still going to join nijisanji, just like I know fuyo at least would with idol.
>>96195131yeah, sustainability after joining is a whole different subject. I agree up until only a certain extent, though. leaving (becoming a new identity in this specifically) usually halves your viewership overnight, if not more, and yeah you'll keep most of the gachikoi, but that casual audience is still important for stuff like merch and brand recognition. see: lopi of all vtubers being able to exist off a gamersupps code/cup and plushies. at that point people will think, yeah sure then they can just get new fans as an indie, but actually growing as an indie requires exponentially more work and/or talent and/or luck and/or consistency for the individual, and a lot of them already teeter on the edge of viability with doing it full time. hell, mitty got a viral 500k view cover and it translated to literally 0 new regulars, that I've noticed anyway. it's obviously not as true if your corpo is a self sabotaging retard, between both talents and management, but for a variety of reasons that I don't feel like doing an autism dive on right now, corpos grow more reliably than indies, at least until they hit the Great Filter (bankruptcy) and die and all the talents scatter, before most of them end up joining another corpo anyway.
the way I think of the future of corpo vtubing is, people are still making new youtuber/streamer MCN type of deals decades after machinima blew up, first figuratively and then literally, so I'm not really expecting vtuber corpos to go anywhere when they actually do provide a lot more tangible value. the difference between a collective that basically turns into a corpo like vdere, and a regular techbro startup is negligible.
