>>56888568I second what this anon said, and will add
>They collabed to hell and back with the EN girls ASAP, and then did a few obligatory collabs with their real senpai and split, rarely if ever collabing with them again>Completely threw away what made Stars Stars. Their senpai had learned how to behave respectably to the point even the hyper schizo JP antis left them alone after a while, content they weren't sex pests and weirdos and happy if they stuck to themselves, and how to collab with only specific holos and only while maintaining a specific attitude to not be disrespectful. They completely shit all over it until as the other anon said, they "undid three years of goodwill ">Actively pursued drama to the point Vesper just started doing things with the sole purpose of making people mad and trashing Holostars image in the process>Collabed with highly controversial people (Daph, vshojo), again damaging the Stars image>Would actively refer to themselves as members of Hololive and not Holostars, encouraged beggars>Their fans were so incredibly vitriolic they'd attack everything and anything the Stars stood for. Astel said they must never be subsumed into Holo, they shit on that and demanded it. Astel at the very least loves idols and wants to be one, EN fans shit on "idol culture" constantly and don't care. They acted like Nijis and would continually belittle the JP stars AND their fans, to the point I saw some of them semi-regularly post in /stars/ just to shit on them and talk out of their ass in the early days>A LOT of what EN fans would say in the early days would also shit on them indirectly. If you pointed out how bad they were doing, it was always "yeah well JP sucks ass so they're doing better than them" "They're better compared to JP">For every shitty thing the ENs would not do, their fans would only gladly do it for them, all while they never meaningfully or seriously scolded them over their incredibly disgraceful behaviorI'm glad /stars/ saw what was coming and started discussing a split before they were even announced. I know few of you will read this or even give a shit, but please don't hate the JP stars or their fans. A lot of them just like them as cool weird dudes. A lot of them like the fact they're a male only group and don't mind and even support the Holos being female only.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, I just really want Cover to announce they're very separate, incompatible groups. I really think you guys and the starmin could get along if they did.
Sorry for the wall of text.
