>>63055917thats a pretty big definition stretch to include people with low viewcounts despite being at it for over a year in a lot of cases (no offense at all to those people, i'll definitely be one of them myself)
like why even put up the pretense that it has to be for beginners if its already a thread schizm, just make it about /here/ chuubas who want to be part of a /here/tuber community, in the same way that people want to stay around /asp/ because its fun despite not really being new anymore