>>58850084honesty is irrelevant, people will show their true colors when given total anonymity and a platform to express their opinions. regardless of how disingenuous their argument tactics are or how nasty their words it becomes pretty clear what their feelings on a topic are if you just read between the lines. for example you can just go to /#/ and see how they will shut down any discussion of a Niji "win" by spreading false rumors of viewbotting, because their only real goal is shilling Hololive. They are totally dishonest in their tactics but their motivations and opinions are clear.