>>64405255>but it’s sad fans would react to something as simple as a punkslippery slope
There is this idea in the west that if you dont bitch about innocuous male collabs next thing they will be off collabing in hotel rooms with males when they announce it was girls only collab.
Now, here is something interesting: why the Japanese can collab with males like in the Crazy Raccon cup or Korone can sing with flesh old pop stars without no one saying shit while here in the west people make catalog bait about it?
Because people in the west are larpers who don't understand what unicornism is about: male collabs are ok for the Japanese as long as it done for "professional" reasons; what the nips hate is actually when a man and a woman get together just to have "fun" but work is "ok", they are more concerning about them openly having boyfriends than male collabs. This is why mafumafu female fans where suicidal when rushiagate hit up, or why Kuzuha female fans almost killed themselves when it was accidentally revealed he was shagging that vtuber milf, this despite them collabing with females all the time.
Meanwhile the western fandom borrowed the unicorn name without understanding what unicornism is really about: the factions have different goals. If I were to be precise the EN fandoms is just a reaction to nijisanjiEN approach to vtubers "this is a reality show where they all fuck each other" in favor of the classics formula " these women are here to pretend to be your girlfriend"
People in hololive global call themselves unicorns but very few actually are unicorns in the proper sense: most of them are in fact <cute girls doing cute things> supremacists instead of unicorns, caring more about online interactions than real life boyfriends, most in fact are also very strongly against "doxxing", because they want to keep the illusion of a perfect girlfriend an illusion, and that can be done when the vtuber is flirting with her genmantes.
Ultimately it comes down to a clash of demographics: the male audience, who wants cgdct, and the female/gay/normiecore audience, who wants "reality show house" dynamics, see Aesthel x Nyanners current viewers or current veibae fans who arent there for her but because she is soda's girl. Homobeggars are their core dont even do their begging for the sake of the men they want to help, but so the scene panders to their demographic more - which is in fact fair, you gotta be loud to get people to want to pander to you and give you what you want. The western industry has a name for them, they are called "shippers". The western scene is currently a war between shippers and cgdct fans.
>jwong collab with disdainThere are, even within HoloEn, certain factions who would be ok with them collabing with fleshmates as long as they dont approach vtubers: they are more against "nijification" of hololive than just male collabs. They could also pick the girls without a gosling audience, like Ollie, Kobo or Mori. If this isnt happening is because Capcom doesnt want to pay them and went for the cheap option, aka 100-ish vtubers,( which means us, and that how huntress got int the new challengers cup.)
