Okay, I was expecting issues with the agreement between /∞/ and risu, but I'll try and bring some more clarity to what happened.
You can call me /∞/'s diplomat, I'm not /∞/'s repm Archivebud, but I'll do a better job of explaining the sitution given I'm the one who negotiated risu becoming a protectorate of /∞/ and I was given authority by Archivebud on diplomatic matters. So let me try and clear up misconceptions given our past behavior hasn't been doing us any favors.
>>19949094First off, the conversation between you and Archievebud is distorting facts by claiming that Risu become a protectorate as a result of a military incursion or gunboat diplomacy. This is clearly not the case, if you follow the records. Specifically the first contact post.
>>19871646>I didn't see any lore for your thread, so j wanted to see if you guys were interested in joining [/vtwbg/].The first question was if they were interested in joining /vtwbg/. If they said yes, that ends the discussion and we get another player.
>If not, would you mind if you become a protectorate of /∞/? You're still your own country, but we'd make sure you aren't conquered.The second question was a direct question and why. No coercion or deception. Again, risu could have said no and the discussion would have ended there. But said they just didn't have anyone who would have the autism to take part. So this lead to a conformation question.
>Then could I get your approval for /∞/ to turn Risu's land into a protectorate where they'd run it for you in game?Which again, Risu could have declined, but they responded by saying /∞/ could do what they want. In this sitution, one could argue /∞/ could outright annex risu, however /∞/ stuck to the original agreement. /∞/ also intentionally delayed making the announcement of the agreement to see if anyone else in risu had an opinion. But no one did.
So that is how Risu became a protectorate of /∞/.
Also for transparency, I asked in the previous thread as well, but only got the response 'Lore". So I made a second attempt to get a definitive yes or no on if risu wanted to get involve in /vtwbg/, and if not, if they could become a protectorate. No pressure, no show of force, just asking if they wanted to get involved.
>Moving the island to the east.It was always in the east, this was always the agreement, the fact you are trying to use this as an excuse to open old wounds and time loops makes me question you motives.
However, if it's over the isolationism, it was one of the original justifications, I won't deny that. However the second reason, internal conflict, not only more than makes up for it, but recent events show it's 100% legitimate for how /∞/ still manages to not be a world threat. In fact making risu a protectorate could inflame domestic tensions like
>>19952644 >>19954468 suggested.
>advanced technologyWhich is now a completely moot point with the introduction of magic and Chuubanite.
As for the canal, It's very clear this will be a multi decade project and I like the idea of the isolationist extremists conspiring with any government that is against the canal's construction attempting to sabotage it, you have to admit that is a good world event. And it would be great to have an event that is not war.
However, I am curious if the world is in 18th century technology, how does everyone nation already know about the canal plans? It strikes me as odd that there's 21st century communication in this game. Can I get a reasonable in game explanation given we're in an era where it takes weeks and months for messages to be sent?
Or the fact why /∞/ constantly gets singled out for everything action they take for the crime of staying involved. When /who/ announced they took over part of /uuu/ and /uuu/ ceased to exist >>/9687899 and /cgl/ openly their declared their plans to conquer their neighbors.
>>19299826 it was met with crickets. Consistency would be nice.
