>>86683390Like Pippa, cruelty towards animals is one of the few topics that genuinely upsets me to my core. I give people the benefit of the doubt by default, I think most people are actually good deep down, I reject the Hobbesian notion that the threat of force is all that's keeping away our worst impulses (rather, the strongest deterrent is the inherent human morality that makes one not want to be seen as a bad person). But if you treat animals like shit, and you DON'T come from a society where that's permissable and thus you never questioned it, then I refuse to be charitable with you.