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Anonymous Fri 27 May 2022 17:43:50 No.25034059 View View Report

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oh it's the "y-you're wrong" retard, late to the party as usual.
I tracked Patra's obviously botted stream btw, and that showed very clearly how Youtube deals with viewBOTs.
> VOD views frozen for 1 hours after stream ends
> freeze lifted for a minute or two
> VOD views frozen AGAIN for 2 hours after stream ends
> normal VOD numbers counted afterwards

Koron and Sara's viewers were not culled until AFTER the verification period btw. They had the inflated VOD views for the entirety of the verification period.
Which proves conclusively that they were viewFARMs and not viewBOTs.

> inb4 viewfarms won't be detected
Youtube has already deleted obvious viewfarm attempts on chuubas as well as KPop songs, so they do have a mechanism for it which is triggered when the VOD has abnormally high number of views than expected (and usually from a focussed geolocation).

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Anonymous Mon 23 May 2022 06:59:12 No.24788732 View View Report

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Patra's VOD seems to have completed verification. I cannot confirm this because her "most popular" doesn't go far enough down for some reason, but the regular VOD cull that I've seen happen to many other VODs has already happened, and what that usually means is that verification is complete as there has never usually been any further culls after that.
With this we have our very first actual botted stream with a graph as well as the VOD numbers for the first 24-48 hours.

Observable things -

1. Youtube froze the VOD viewcount IMMEDIATELY after the stream ended, and it did not move from the initial count for ONE HOUR.
2 After this ONE HOUR, the VOD gained a few additional views, but was then frozen AGAIN. And it stayed that way for the next TWO hours.
3. Nothing suspicious after that, other than the regular VOD cull that happens to all videos.

Koron and Sara's streams were suspected of either Viewbotting or Viewfarming, and Youtube's processing of Patra's stream proves that both Sara and Koron's streams had viewFARMs and not viewBOTs, since their inflated VOD views stayed until the SECOND verification hit (where the VOD culls happen).
Some anons may argue that viewfarms are indistinguishable from actual viewers, which is obviously not always true since Youtube has culled the more blatant ones many times before - including certain KPop MVs.

Most of the suspicious Luxiem streams did not have a VOD freezing period, so blatant bots are out of the question. And their VOD views were also not really culled any more than what usually happens, so blatant farms are also out of the question.
The more subtle type viewfarms that are indistinguishable from normal viewers? Who knows, but without more information that will remain as simply cope.

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