>>13221438Talonflame is a gay metapick because he was overpowered and broken, but he wasn't based. If you saw a Talonflame in a team, you knew it was because the trainer was a smogon nerd copying strats from the internet.
Staraptor was just a solid pokemon without being broken, when you saw it on a team it was because he was good enough and also the trainer just liked him, and that makes him based.
They are not the same
