>>81802320They have a very extensive history of treating their livers like human garbage, stealth suspending them, skin walking them, etc. A huge number of former members having nothing good to say about them, and they give people currently unfamiliar with vtubers a horrible impression of the scene. Their diminishing presence in the EN world means vtubing is healing. And their greatest accomplishment was acting as a stepping stone for a few decent vtubers who managed to escape.
