>>36997146>>General problemsThey at first said they wanted to go their own way, more or less not to be decorations or ornaments of Hololive en, but that stopped the moment the collab ban dropped, and in fact that exact collab ban was ended early specifically FOR Hololive en, they still couldn't collab with their senpai at that time, only the girls.
They received a fairly warm welcome by much of the fans, and I even say some anons here who were begrudgingly looking forward to good EN Stars that would respect the difference and distance between themselves and Hololive, but they immediately destroyed that through the collab spam, making more people dislike them than ever would have had they just been more modest with them.
>Overall, it's like they had months of time to think about what they wanted to do, how they wanted to do it, and just didn't. They gave so much conflicting information initially that they contradicted later on, I think that what must have happened is since Vesper had said they'd expected to do much worse than what they did on debut, the moderate success they'd gotten went straight to their head in such record time that they completely threw out their initial plans and ended up making asses of themselves in front of everyone as a result.>>AxelBoring solo streamer, his voice is okay but not staggering, and his collabing with a bunch of holos invited shipfags in, who are notorious wherever they go for being insufferable. He needs to cut down massively on collabs, reconsider who he collabs with in the first place (that rpr fuck up should have made him seriously reconsider doing more collabs with him), and seriously commit himself to learning how to be interesting in solo streams or he'll never improve. He's also got the major problem right now of being the cancer ship magnet. One look in /mans/ when he's streaming would show you them shipping him with everyone they can think of and anyone he's ever spoken to, I saw them shipping him with FUCKING POCHI for fucks sake. He needs to end that before it gets worse, yuri and yaoi shippers somehow are never as cancer as straight shippers, you can't let them burrow in too deep or it's over.
>>RegisHorrible. His voice is annoying to me, but that's a matter or taste. He isn't really that funny, and his solo content is only middling, he needs to work on both. Also, he bites bait almost as hard as Mori, literally seeing a gray name talk about how he leeches and goes on a several minute tirade about how he wants to fist fight him and how he'd totally beat him up if they met irl, actual middle school level shit, and that's nor mentioning the Mario kart incident. Very immature and needs to work on how to act like an adult online or he's going to stumble into more and more situations that make him look like a kid.
>>VesperGood zatsus, but needs to work on gaming AND zatsuing at the same time. A push over for Kronii which resulted in probably the biggest yab out of them yet and crushed Kronii's fanbase into the dust, and from what I've heard he might start doing collabs with her again soon. He also contradicted himself and abandoned his "solo content is most important" rule which severely damaged him early on.
>>MagniThe absolute worst hire I've ever seen from Cover so far, even worse than Mori since she wasn't complete garbage right out the gate. This guy's ass. First, he seems almost entirely responsible for the collab spam. Secondly, he doesn't seem to understand he's not a part of Hololive and even seems to want to push himself into it, that isn't helped by people like Mori and Ame enabling him, he even cried when Ame just said some basic shit to him after his debut. Massive menhera. Thirdly, and probably most concerningly, he's pushing to get all his cancerous twitch friends to orbit Hololive en as well, which is the worst fucking shit you could imagine. Twitch and their circles are built around drama and retardation, canceling each other for clout and digging up drama at every turn. One look at twitch vtubers, who are all just Twitch shit on steroids, should tell you they're a blight and shouldn't be allowed near Hololive and Holostars. Even the flesh streamers do this shit, there's very few who manage to keep their noses clean and stay out of it. It's one of the major reasons Hololive is popular to the west, you get to watch actual streamers stream, not feel like you're watching a bunch of high school kids start drama with each other over he said she said. Even that one 39daph woman who he collabed with tried to start drama about Hololive and said she wouldn't collab with them anymore, only for that to fail to gain any traction and sending her back to trying to cozy up to Magni again for numbers, they're all a bunch of vermin and that should be treated as such. If he wants to collab outside of Stars or something he should take the extra time to do more research and only collab with the actual quality vtubers who aren't just there to leech.
