>>36436824Whenever I've listened to shylily get pissed it was never over her numbers, because she has plenty, it was over the fact that she's essentially invisible despite her success. Like she's passed over and not included in things and she doesn't understand why because given the fact that she generally get's numbers that are around Mouse's level, you would expect people to at least give her the same opportunities, but yeah, a lot of people act like she doesn't exist. To that same extent I kind of feel like Vshojo is passed over in a similar way despite their massive success. I see them less drawn by artists, less pushed by advertisers, zero collabs in any video games like hololive gets, so on and so forth. I think it has more to do with a perception of western vtubers than anything. A bias maybe. The only way you can become visible to the public is to the point that they absolutely have to acknowledge you is like with Mouse's subathon because she broke like 3 world records. And even then she still lost to Code Miko at the twitch awards.