>>49405845eh i wouldnt say that. altventurers are still probably the best of all 8 and I say this as a day 1 vestie. Vesties are a lot more quiet for the most part nowadays thankfully. It was nice not seeing them grief Vesper during his solo WoW guerilla
except for the usual holofaggotry but I block those people on sight when i see them in chat so for all i know its not a big deal anymore 