https://www.youtube.com/@ShinonomeHatsuriHandcam streams and AR stuff like whatever Omesis are currently doing, that's where I draw the line
Once you show your face while representing your vtuber channel then I don't consider you a vtuber anymore
Some other anon claims
>the wow factor has certainly decreasedbut that's not entirely true; see this channel
https://www.youtube.com/@ShinonomeHatsuriThere's nothing creative about running live 2D while doing streams a normal fleshtuber could also do like play games, even back then, but I believe there's much more a vtuber can do besides throwing their mask away, but that means more effort which I think these grifters couldn't be bothered to give.