>>84696160 if they haven't even hit 10k viewers for any non-debut stream whatsoever, and 20k for debuts, they can't be considered mid level.
Also Hololive's mid-level would be considered Aces in small corpos (Raden, okayu, Chloe, Mio, Lamy, etc.) Its top level have no counterparts, they are simple too good (Korone,Fubuki, Koyori, etc...)
and Hololive has 5 Aces (used to be 6...) instead of 1, and they are industry defining (1st army) . Its basically like this, and Hololive is the onepunch corporation of the vtuber world.
