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Seriously they truly deserve the title of the worst vt thread, it would be fine if the thread discussed the more "technical" parts of what type of vtubers attract viewers and how they build their audiences but for the most part when you check them they're just talking about some drama, whining about how a fun stream was a failure because it didn't had the big "NOOMBERS" and beefing about some random who from reddit or doxx site, is it because they don't actually like vtubers or people obsessed with numbers are just this annoying?
