>>92019651>You're contradicting yourself by continuing to cite Gura and her subcount while dismissing Liz despite being the most subbed in Justicethis isn't a contradiction because of the sheer scale of Gura's subcount and popularity, it doesn't make sense to try to compare the two as being analogous. ERB has the highest subcount - in Justice - but this is only because Justice are still new, she debuted first and does so many fucking karaoke streams. Speaking of which
>you know what's extremely easily accessible that skips over pretty much everything you're talking about? Music.ERB is a holo that people listen to singing but don't actually watch as proven by her gaming/chatting streams always have less views than the endless karaoke streams/rebroadcasts. This osunds mean to say but the truth is that people like hearing Liz sing but they don't like looking at her or hearing her talk. It is what it is, I'm afraid.
>>92019546her consistently high ccv speaks for itself and doesn't make sense if she isn't entry level. The kind of people that would watch vtubers are really not as put off by baby-voiced lolis as you think. This might be a hard pill to swallow for some people here but the truth is that the appeal of lolis is way more popular and common than people want to admit and most people just virtue signal and pretend otherwise but the raw data can't be argued with.
>>92019735none of this is about the JP audience though, the discussion is about entry level *for westerners*
>>92019958Biboo isn't fake she was the exact same pre-Hololive. In fact, so were Fuwamoco just without all the BAU BAU-ing and dog motifs as hard as that might be to believe.
