since the thread died as I was writing
>>14684785It's the opposite though, it's unfortunate more people didn't follow Lumi yet
Basically almost all westerners watching streams on YouTube are holoEN viewers (nijiEN viewers being previously holoEN anyway). Mostly people who never watched streams before learning about Hololive. The discoverability on YT is garbage and your only luck is to have some kind of short or clips recommended going viral but that's like winning the lottery. You can get an audience yes, but it's the crumbs of the few hololive viewers trying to look for something else, crumbs of something that big aren't to be ignored, but it's still crumbs. They'll also apply the same expectations they had for Hololive to the small corpos they find. Overall the viewerships is also declining for many holo or streamers in general on YouTube. They did say they had plan to fix the discoverability issues and other stuff but it's in the unknown future and unclear how it will be done exactly.
Twitch on the other hand is where the most dedicated and less casual audience is, with 20x more live viewers for streams (15 millions vs 700k last count). It's an audience more used to watching streams
and more dedicated/spending more in general (one twitch viewer results in more money at least for partners).
Yes Vshojo dominates there but what's the issue? Not only not all Vhsojo is as bad as holofags pretend (like Ironmouse has been streaming for 5 years and genuinely love the hobby), but it's also growing. You get new ones like Chibidoki or Saruei inclinding hard from almost nowhere. There are many many more vtubers of all sorts, and "twitch culture" is a meme, the streamer defines the culture of his stream, not the website, most big chats in general are garbage, YouTube or twitch.
Networking is also much much better on Twitch, justl ike discoverability. Lumi is working on that pretty well and it shows. The trans-coding argument is a joke all streamers with that viewership always have quality options, it's just missing the first few days before getting affiliate. And once partner obtained (easily with cyberlive numbers) the deal is also much better in term of money.
There's really not much reason to stay on YouTube aside from pandering to holofags but those mostly stay with Hololive anyway, while a more diverse audience grows on Twitch.
In the end /vt/ holo viewers is a tiny portion of people and caring about their biais about Twitch is just shoting yourself in the foot, trying to copy Hololive isn't an advantage, Japaneses went to Youtube because they didn't know about Twitch. You do lose the scheduled streams but I think having a unique URL to go to for live is more practical. VODs can be automatically uploaded to Youtube for people who really need to watch month old streams, after all VODs is what YouTube is for, no issue for that.
If some people prefer YouTube because they're used to it it's ok, but for the streamers there is really not much reason to stay there when you're pretty small.
