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this is mostly @ ccc-anon
i got back on using refiners in anime gen workflow and you're ponymagine is still best in class for that purpose, significantly better than base animagine on nude bits like nipples. it rescues my gens from drifting too westoid as i play with a strange mix of models looking for the right blend of detail in the shading. though i haven't tried a terribly wide range of refiner models because downloading and XYing big files is annoying.
i had previously dumped refining in general because the "euler SMEA Dy" sampler prefers unbroken 100% chunks of denoise, but ive also now dumped that sampler.
