>>87304569no, it's not, and that's not what i'm doing
and this is exactly what i'm talking about when i say manipulative
fleece wasn't just trying to help her, go read the things he said, he was straight up trying to tear her down and manipulate her
and you're no better for defending it, especially in this ratty manipulative way under the guise that "actually we're the ones who care about her despite our actions showing otherwise"
>>87304665yes she said herself she had read the threads, but no now she's not /here/