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also they kept talking about them new people within niji and in particular they talk about volta ririmu says theyre like dawn of a new era in japan and kou say theyre still fresh they feel like that like they just debuted despite being around for a good while thats a contrast with Edengumi theyre neither new nor old theyre like in the middle and kou talk about the generation shift between new groups then ririmu say that VTA cant join the 公民館 because they've been trained in a very specific way and wouldnt be able to handle the more raw free way of whatever that 公民館 is, kou said that someone from VTA would find that freedom to do whatever like kindaa hard to deal with because they beeen raised in a different environment, mean while they are the kind that dont have a large sense of values or ethics, but kou tries not to be too sharp with stuff like being too blunt and not go too far and ririmu also appreciates that theen they joke about what thew orst that could happen and she says that she will remain friends with kou no matter what happens so nothing will change that bond then they talked about fan engagement in social media and how lots of harsh criticism is overwhelming mentally and people project their own insecurities onto other people and ririmu said that some fans lash out because they lack something and they want every body else to feel as miserable as they feel that's what seh observed maenwhile kou said that also goes for the dedication of fans some times, said that supporting someone shouldnt be at the cost of their own life of their own well being and they talked a bit and said that hte role of a vtuber is emotional support and motivation and look forward to, not life guidance , ririmu say that she wants us to stay safe and stay healthy so we can continue sharing time with her it made me happy they both agreed its very important emotional support and being connected to fan ririmu is happy that she can help people but she salso thinks she might be the reason some people may be messing up their own personal life like ruining their life a person that you supporting isnt going to teach you how to live your own life but other way so she wants to be with people for a very long time