>>62217533>Any major Holo Minecraft collab, for example, mogs every collab EN ever had.EN didn't have enough people for any major Holo collab and if they invited any JP members, it would become a Japanese only stream.
>Take any EN and there are multiple JP vtubers who do the same thing but better.Think about just the first 3 Gens. How many really good Holo members are in them.
JP0-2 Sora, Miko, Suisei, Fubuki, Haachama, Aqua, and Subaru.
EN1-3 Kiara, Gura, Calli, Bae, Shiori, Fuwamoco... OK so I do think the JP members are better, but I can understand why someone would prefer EN.
>All EN chuubas are really distant from their fans.As long as all fan are equal I'm fine, but I do like the closeness. Something JP does much worse than EN is that you have to go to there RM for some parasocial stuff. Some of the stuff that JPs say on member only streams only cause problem, anti's will always leak it in the worse way they can. Not saying EN doesn't, it just worse on the JP side. EN has something worse actually, fan discords.
>look at declining EN numbers and unwavering numbers of someone like PekoraEntirely managements fault. OK like 60% managements fault and 20% is that Hololive for English fans is just cursed.
>If you care about Twitter or YT comments compare EN ones with JP ones, where EN are just meme diarrhea and JP (even English-speaking JP vtuber fans) try to have some actual discussion at least.Yeah this is true. On the other side of things, the bad part of JP is that it has worse drama people. The fun parts of EN are fan projects which are kind of distant form the Vtuber and is half the time focused on JP members. JP fans have more fan closer to the Vtuber.
>Soon they all will be fully consumed by mediocrity, eceleb shit and retarded zoomer "community"There seemed to be this unspoken thing were all the dedicated English fans knew they did not want this. It was only mentioned rarely, but if you look at how they would react and what they would ask for, I'm happy to say that at least HoloEN completely avoid this fate.
>EN is dying.HoloEN was going to die, but advent saved it, barely.
My opinion is: NijiEn<HoloID<NijiJP<HoloEN<HoloJP
I would like it if the HoloJP members spoke more English, much more. The HoloEN can speak more Japanese too.
The ENHolo fandom has massively improved. Look at the Suisei situation, if it happed back then all the comments would be "idol culture," "parasocial," "jp bad", but now the comment were people saying that people who say those things aren't fan and don't watch Hololive.
