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HAPPENING - IRONMOUSE LEFT VSHOJO

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 21:25:36 No.102469155 View View Reply Original Report

Corpos falling appart!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 21:27:25 No.102469249 Report

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>>102469155
Hololive's doing good
See you at the 12K seat concert you shitters kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 21:56:57 No.102471144 Report

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>>102469155
couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:03:58 No.102471639 Report

Quoted By: >>102472802

>>102469155
Hololive won

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:08:14 No.102471882 Report

Quoted By: >>102472214

>corpos finally dying
It's a good day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:11:35 No.102472113 Report

Quoted By: >>102487558

This is gonna be an interesting thread. Perhaps I should also note that she left because VShojo allegedly owes her and the Immunodeficiency Foundation hundreds of thousands of dollars from her last subathon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwLbGcUMy6g

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:13:06 No.102472214 Report

Quoted By: >>102472720 >>102472926 >>102477984 >>102478538 >>102478927 >>102481063 >>102484458

>>102471882
Is there any reason I should dislike corpos as a concept? Right now I don't care that much outside of situations like this. All I know is that this thread is gonna be something to behold I'm sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:20:02 No.102472720 Report

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>>102472214
They are forced as fuck, I mean vtubing in general is a lot forcing and LARP but corpos take it to an unbereable level

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:21:12 No.102472802 Report

Quoted By: >>102487129

>>102471639
>Antique Store Bijou
MY FUCKING SIDES!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:23:03 No.102472926 Report

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>>102472214
Are you a seething indie or a twitchfag casual? If not, no, not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:25:06 No.102473087 Report

Quoted By: >>102477416 >>102515106

>Nina leaves Nijisanji
>Nijisanji is embroiled in a controversy involving a financial dispute and their most prominent member

>Matara leaves Vshojo
>Vshojo is embroiled in a controversy involving a financial dispute and their most prominent member

I am noticing.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:25:23 No.102473111 Report

Quoted By: >>102500619

What corpos have cute girls that don't seem like they'll implode anytime soon? I already watch hololive and phase and I know of Vallure but don't care for their adult angle. I just want to watch cute girls.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 22:29:05 No.102473400 Report

Quoted By: >>102477363

>>102469155
the fallout from gura is hitting every corpo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:00:48 No.102475558 Report

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>>102469155
This truly is the year of the indies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:28:06 No.102477363 Report

Quoted By: >>102477693 >>102477872 >>102494513

>>102473400
you're giving saba credit where there isn't any. what's happening to vshojo is entirely vshojo's fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:28:57 No.102477416 Report

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>>102473087
hag sexo. breeding with hags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:32:25 No.102477627 Report

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>>102469155
>VShojo is finally on its death throes
Henya just needs to leave and I can stop caring about this shit company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:33:38 No.102477693 Report

Quoted By: >>102477872

>>102477363
Average chumcuck behavior desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:35:04 No.102477793 Report

Quoted By: >>102478097 >>102479909 >>102483808 >>102486879

>>102469155
I bet MariMari_EN is kicking herself for joining Phase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:36:13 No.102477872 Report

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>>102477363
>>102477693
you fail to understand the extent of the fallout.
this is hitting everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:37:46 No.102477984 Report

Quoted By: >>102478234

>>102472214
Corpos as a concept aren't bad: you surrender part of your freedom and income for the ability to not stress yourself over getting a model, promoting yourself, dealing with finances and merch, etc. The issue is back in the day there wasn't much of a choice if you actually wanted to make a living as a vtuber, but now as indies are getting more and more capable of managing themselves some vtubers feel like corpo benefits aren't worth it anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:39:25 No.102478097 Report

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>>102477793
Shes chinese, she goes to where the money is, if Phase dies she just goes back to her usual thing, with a model Fishman paid for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:41:27 No.102478234 Report

Quoted By: >>102478568

>>102477984
>indies
Is there more than a handful successful ones that didn't get a boost from being corpo beforehand?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:44:08 No.102478401 Report

Quoted By: >>102478590 >>102478615 >>102478626

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:46:21 No.102478538 Report

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>>102472214
As a concept? Not really, it's a quite noble one. In the context of capitalism? They're fucking money grabbing cesspits for Venture Capital fucks. Not that independence is going to do that much better, mind you, the negative incentives remain and every large enough individual is already a tiny corporation with them as the CEO, but it'll delay the impact for a while.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:46:39 No.102478557 Report

Quoted By: >>102480989

Froot can use this to claim that Vshojo also took her charity money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:46:51 No.102478568 Report

Quoted By: >>102478615 >>102478689

>>102478234
Of course: Filian, Neuro, Shylily, Bao, Camila etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:47:19 No.102478590 Report

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>>102478401
I'm honestly surprised vshojo lasted as long as it did with their business model, but all the talents that left in the past years raised big red flags for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:47:45 No.102478615 Report

Quoted By: >>102478670 >>102479060 >>102519761

>>102478401
>Nijisisters tweet screencap
>>102478568
The 3rd and onwards are trash though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:47:58 No.102478626 Report

Quoted By: >>102483599

>>102478401
Oh shit, we might acutually see the end of vshojo, like I was thinking they would just lots of relevancy and be there like NijiEN, but they actually might just dissapear

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:48:32 No.102478670 Report

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>>102478615
>trash
You mean they aren't successful or what? Moral evaluations are beyond this discussion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:48:51 No.102478689 Report

Quoted By: >>102478826

>>102478568
Yeah, that ain't very many which is my point. (Also ignoring a number of those got popular for being vshojo orbiters)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:49:20 No.102478721 Report

Quoted By: >>102479066 >>102480874

I hate vshojo but I also think it would be funny if ironmouse was scamming and faking everything.

I always feel that way about any kind of fictional character that has a feel-bad-for-me disease

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:49:56 No.102478761 Report

Quoted By: >>102479098 >>102480525 >>102518456

>>102469155
millionaire complaining that she only got paid 1 million dollars a month, not 1.2 million a month
vagueposting, as women do
literally a nothingburger, I will maybe give a fuck if anything specific is said. until then, I will assume this is probably another dokibird "well I mean my lawyers got confused and fucked up but its still everyone else's fault"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:50:06 No.102478774 Report

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>all the former corpo girls are going to trauma bond over their shared past and decide to create another corpo which will "totally work this time".
Calling it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:50:51 No.102478826 Report

Quoted By: >>102478941 >>102480016

>>102478689
>that ain't very many
Bro, I don't have the time to list all indies that are high 3view-low 4 view, which is insanely good for an indie. You can go consult with /lig/ about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:52:39 No.102478927 Report

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>>102472214
They manipulate chuubas into joining by giving them a starting buff and easier management but make them sign a retarded contract where they have to pay them back a stupid amount of money and that also restricts their liberties and makes them subjects to the company's managers and wills, they also can't get upset because they have NDAs and risk getting fired. Some companies go even further by owning the rights to their characters, so they basically own nothing and will be happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:52:55 No.102478941 Report

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>>102478826
Don't care about the 3views and low 4 views. Talking about who's who can pull the same popularity the main corpos can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:53:43 No.102478978 Report

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>Cons: none

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:55:14 No.102479060 Report

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>>102478615
>liking filian
are you 13

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:55:18 No.102479066 Report

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>>102478721
Reminds me of Kyo Kaneko

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:55:51 No.102479098 Report

Quoted By: >>102479687

>>102478761
Contracts are contracts. I would be pissed if my employer sorted me any amount, period. Fuck VShojo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 23:59:51 No.102479365 Report

Quoted By: >>102479482

So will the vshojo talent migrate to another corpo or will we get a new wave of indies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:00:36 No.102479412 Report

Quoted By: >>102480444

>>102469155
Vshojo was probably so far into the red that embezzling charity money was a good option. Dire.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:01:43 No.102479480 Report

Quoted By: >>102479660 >>102479983

Hololive may have lost Gura but at least they can still function as a company in EN. Vshoujo is actually fucking done. What made them think they could get away with pocketing 500k from charity? Anybody who stays with them on the EN side at the very list should be considered incredibly sus. Especially Mel who's essentially a cofounder of the place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:01:44 No.102479482 Report

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>>102479365
I don't see any of them joining corpos. They will probably just join talent agencies like Mythic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:02:22 No.102479532 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:04:13 No.102479660 Report

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>>102479480
Being a cofounder doesn't mean you are a corunner, we don't know if she was in charge of anything relating to finance or contracts etc

Also poorly aged post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:04:32 No.102479679 Report

Quoted By: >>102479818

The only one in VShojo I care about is Henya so as long as she gets out of this mess fine, I’m good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:04:39 No.102479687 Report

Quoted By: >>102479932

>>102479098
sure, but I dont know if that summarizes this
even the most fucked up poorly run corporation isn't likely to just outright disregard a contract and steal money
what is more likely is this is a case of "I didn't understand what I signed" or some other lawyer stuff (ex. vagueness in contract)

mouse knew she could vaguepost about this and would 100% have everyone on her side (see: dokibird), so she just went for it to give them a PR hit since she is mad. woman shit
I guarantee as more facts come out it will be clear this situation isn't as cut and dry as she makes it sound

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:06:30 No.102479818 Report

Quoted By: >>102481792

>>102479679
As long as she crashes and burns, she got exactly what she fucking deserved.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:06:37 No.102479827 Report

Quoted By: >>102479912 >>102480357

Vshojo is not a company so this doesn't affect anybosy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:07:45 No.102479891 Report

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Phase Connect:
1) does nothing
2) wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:08:01 No.102479909 Report

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>>102477793
she probably still owns her original model, and can jump ship if need be. She's still in mythic I believe for that very reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:08:02 No.102479912 Report

Quoted By:

>>102479827
yea isn't it just a brand, chill dramawhores

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:08:18 No.102479932 Report

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>>102479687
And you think she can do this without the risk of being sued for slander?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:08:53 No.102479970 Report

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>>102469155
given how many decisions were made with her sign off in the background and that she was the shadow ruler of the company. Shes 100% involved in the shady shit they did and wants to put distance between herself so that her facade doesn't get unveiled.
This is just like that yogscast hannah leaving years ago. She dipped because all the groomers were getting outed and she had skeletons in her closet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:09:06 No.102479983 Report

Quoted By: >>102480918

>>102479480
It probably wasnt an active decision from the comapny as a whole. Money gets tied up in trusts and legal red tape and taxes and then becomes a headache to deal with. Now its a year later. That's just negligence.

Either that or the 'redistributed the funds' and paid themselves. Either way pretty illegal stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:09:43 No.102480014 Report

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Gunrun decided to take a bullet for his buddy Riku so the Aster heat dies off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:09:45 No.102480016 Report

Quoted By: >>102480897

>>102478826
>3view to low 4 view
Barely any money. You aren't really a twitch millionaire until you regularly break 10k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:11:15 No.102480121 Report

Quoted By: >>102480234

>>102469155
>Ironmouse had her IP before she joined Vshojo
>Therefore, her IP is not held by the company as it belongs to her
>":Hurrr, the company didn't hold on her IP, it's totally worthless"
>"Hurr, I am not retarded, it's vshojoseethe"
That guy from last thread didn't just go full retarded, he went beyond that.
I unironically hope that he doesn't procreate.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:12:36 No.102480197 Report

Quoted By: >>102480337 >>102480350 >>102480368 >>102480389 >>102518621

Anyone have any idea who she's talking about?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:13:14 No.102480234 Report

Quoted By: >>102480451

>>102480121
>trying to somehow spin the destruction of the entire brand into "no big deal"
Why do retarded anons do shit like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:14:40 No.102480337 Report

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>>102480197
some guy splitting the bill is the real issue here imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:14:54 No.102480350 Report

Quoted By: >>102480458

>>102480197
There were threads around a year ago about some manager with experience in Hololive hired by Vshojo. Some even speculated it was Omega himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:15:04 No.102480357 Report

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>>102479827
the Schrodinger's corpo, vshojo is a corpo when convenient and not a corpo when drama related

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:15:05 No.102480358 Report

Quoted By: >>102480523

>>102469155
>Vshoujo jumps on Niji hate train
>They're 100% blacker

It's like pottery

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:15:21 No.102480368 Report

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>>102480197
there's a guy who worked at holoEN and joined vshojo last year
he was at the vshojo nova panel at AX this year
i've seen speculation that he was the one mori called "jchad"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:15:41 No.102480389 Report

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>>102480197
There was a manager who jumped ship from Anycolor to Cover last yearish but that was a woman so I have no idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:16:43 No.102480444 Report

Quoted By: >>102484109 >>102510953

>>102479412
I think they just straight up didn't have the money.

>all of mouse's money goes through vshojo
>vshojo has money trouble
>mouse does a subathon and makes $1mil+
>Vshojo gets a million deposited into their bank account
>deadline for giving money to IDF and mouse is some time away
>use the money to deal with some more urgent expenses
>plan is to do extra events and merch so they can pay mouse and IDF on time with nobody noticing
>talent start leaving, blindsided by even more money trouble
>time to pay mouse and IDF comes
>don't have the full amount on hand, and if you only pay part of it your scheme might get noticed
>just play possum and hope nobody notices until you have the money again to pay them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:16:46 No.102480451 Report

Quoted By: >>102480572

>>102480234
This thread is for westerners, go find some street to shit on, if you can't comprehend a basic green text or are too retarded to differentiate between the brand of an agency and brand of the streamer/talent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:16:52 No.102480458 Report

Quoted By: >>102480612

>>102480350
>Omega
wouldn't be surprised but isn't he still at hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:17:53 No.102480523 Report

Quoted By: >>102480587

>>102480358
I wonder if all the niji refugees there will jump off or if they'll sink with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:17:55 No.102480525 Report

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>>102478761
They withheld half a million from a charity, that is what's going to fuck them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:18:45 No.102480572 Report

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>>102480451
Uhh what? I was agreeing with you retard that the person described in the greentext was being dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:18:58 No.102480587 Report

Quoted By: >>102480655

>>102480523
Matara has already left, Michi and Kuro have removed Vshojo from their names and bios on Twitter (though they still have the pink V badge)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:19:17 No.102480612 Report

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>>102480458
I said it was just a speculation, and a year ago no one knew he and Enma were the same person

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:20:00 No.102480655 Report

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>>102480587
Looks like ama also removed vshojo from her bio, it's fucking over

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:23:59 No.102480874 Report

Quoted By: >>102481042

>>102478721
>if ironmouse was scamming and faking everything.
Pretty much it's all but said explicitly that the recent wave of talents leaving Vshitshow is more-less connected to this fuck up (and Geega implied it's just the tip of the iceberg)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:24:26 No.102480897 Report

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>>102480016
If that's what you care about you are beyond retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:24:39 No.102480918 Report

Quoted By: >>102498780

>>102479983
I'm willing to give them the benefits of the doubt, but why the fuck did Mousey or VShojo even use their account(s?) to begin with? Just use a trustworthy 3rd party donation platform like other big VTubers did

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:25:56 No.102480989 Report

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>>102478557
devious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:26:55 No.102481042 Report

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>>102480874
I can't believe zentranny emptied their accounts and ran away

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:27:26 No.102481063 Report

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>>102472214
Nothing really but sooner or later they become beholden to the shareholders and nothing good comes from listening to a bunch out of touch fat old pricks

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:29:35 No.102481189 Report

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damn that's- wait a second. I'm white, I don't watch vshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:36:29 No.102481590 Report

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Phase connect remains strong. All other corpos crumbling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 00:39:55 No.102481792 Report

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>>102479818
Spoken like a true tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:00:01 No.102482993 Report

Quoted By: >>102483381

>>102469155
What happens to VShojo JP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:06:17 No.102483381 Report

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>>102482993
Chances are brave buys it in the next couple of months or they all go indie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:10:09 No.102483599 Report

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>>102478626
And reappear as Zshoujo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:13:40 No.102483808 Report

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>>102477793
Not really she can bully Pippa more easily now that they are in the same agency

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:19:02 No.102484109 Report

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>>102480444
ponzi'd

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:21:01 No.102484208 Report

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>>102469155
>"Hello Mr. Yagoo. It's me."
>"..."
>"Yes, it's done"
>"..."
>"Also I'm retiring."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:26:02 No.102484458 Report

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>>102472214
They prey on retarded girls who have no business sense and get them into dogshit contracts. Can't blame the girls, most have no real world experience and just want to be popular.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:33:01 No.102484831 Report

Quoted By: >>102485170 >>102485208 >>102485379 >>102486975 >>102487465 >>102495107 >>102503283 >>102504205 >>102504834 >>102505162 >>102518035

This is a complete fucking disaster for Mel.
A few weeks ago she moved to permanently live in Japan, something she's been working towards for years now. But her residency requires her to be employed, so she can't just leave VShojo. And If it completely shits the bed and dies there's no way any other corpo will touch a vtuber who does adult content on Chaturbate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:38:51 No.102485151 Report

Quoted By: >>102485341

>>102469155
You want to see an actual nuke, this is a nuke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:39:04 No.102485170 Report

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>>102484831
>the good news keep coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:39:41 No.102485208 Report

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>>102484831
the first VAllure Invader

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:42:06 No.102485341 Report

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>>102485151
Selen thing was still worse and is unlikely to be toppeed unless Niji does something again like genuinely selling Petra to an investor or something

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 01:42:40 No.102485379 Report

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>>102484831
Jesus is looking out for her, it's okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:06:17 No.102486786 Report

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>geega
>"I'm not gonna talk about anyone elses situation"
more then likely way more shit has gone down then what mouse has said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:08:02 No.102486879 Report

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>>102477793
Mari retained her mythic managers and joined Phase as an invader. She presumably still owns her IP and can leave whenever she wants. It's less her joining a corpo and more a partnership under the guise of joining a corpo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:09:28 No.102486975 Report

Quoted By: >>102504517

>>102484831
That's what she gets for being a whore. Time to become a JAV star bitch, it's okay though because she's used to that what with having done live action porn before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:11:57 No.102487129 Report

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>>102472802
Stone, not store. Stone. Anon, you baka lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:12:45 No.102487174 Report

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>>102469155
But I thought you guys said that Vshojo is not a company

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:18:04 No.102487465 Report

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>>102484831
Why didn't Mouse consult her for an exit plan? What a bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:19:41 No.102487558 Report

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>>102472113
She sounds so F-ing fake and scripted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:36:23 No.102488506 Report

Quoted By: >>102488671

False is now live. He's been very supportive of Vshojo in the past.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:39:18 No.102488671 Report

Quoted By: >>102488775 >>102494286

>>102488506
He's also a faggot who threw a fit over some 2view saying that dramagrifters should rope.
Mind you, she wasn't calling him out specifically, but he felt targeted anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 02:41:07 No.102488775 Report

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>>102488671
I know, I'm just curious what he'll say given his past support. Personally I found the horse dramafag's reaction to that tweet funnier, she genuinely freaked out after asking ChatGPT what hang, drawn and quartered meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 03:39:13 No.102492311 Report

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not my problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:02:46 No.102494286 Report

Quoted By: >>102494856

>>102488671
>some 2view saying that dramagrifters should rope
Holy based. Which 2view, imma go sub to her this instant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:04:40 No.102494448 Report

Quoted By:

>cryptic tweet
>replies turned off
How deep does this shit go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:05:24 No.102494513 Report

Quoted By: >>102495461

>>102477363
NTA but I think Saba's debut is the final nail in the coffin that makes many corpo chuubas think there's no need to tied themselves to corpos no matter what they did for them if those corpos fuck up this badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:08:23 No.102494779 Report

Quoted By: >>102495110

Imagine Vshojo imploding being the second biggest nuke of the day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:09:15 No.102494856 Report

Quoted By: >>102497501

>>102494286
Tomomi Toraya

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:12:16 No.102495107 Report

Quoted By: >>102498873

>>102484831
She can get quick hired by a Jap company maybe? They'll treat her better anyway since the Japanese are less aggressive towards lewd stuff anyway, so long as you follow their weird rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:12:19 No.102495110 Report

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>>102494779
I wish they'd spread things out a bit more, so the board doesn't go to complete shit in one day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:16:48 No.102495461 Report

Quoted By: >>102498714

>>102494513
The activities and reception of the most successful western vtuber ever is not overly applicable to the 2views and 3views that make up most corporate vtubers.
VShojo girls already know they can make it independently, it was a precondition of them being able to join in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:50:41 No.102497501 Report

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>>102494856
This girl makes all dramafags that see her attempt suicide

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:53:12 No.102497671 Report

Quoted By: >>102497943 >>102498714 >>102498724 >>102499675

>>102469155
A SECOND FUCKING NUKE HAS DROPPED ON UNICORNLAND
AIIIIEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 04:57:09 No.102497943 Report

Quoted By:

>>102497671
Whatever that brings unicorns into reality can only be considered good news.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:24:58 No.102498714 Report

Quoted By:

>>102495461
>Can make it independently
I know but you can't deny Vshojo, despite being an org, also offers them many advantages and opportunities (like dealing with their merch like for Kson, for example) + takes care many hassles like bureaucracy many chuubas don't want and/or know how to deal with (like with Kuro, for example). Saba shows them they can take care of it all by herself and it's better to ditch corpos if their vision has diverge from themselves.
But yeah I just realized it only applicable to big names such as VShojo for now but if Saba can thrive even more as an indie, I think that's when small and micro corpos will get impacted
>>102497671
Tbhonest I'm happy for her. Anything and anyone that went agains (((their))) propaganda is based in my book

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:25:00 No.102498720 Report

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All these companies had to do was not be evil. How fucking hard is that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:25:10 No.102498724 Report

Quoted By:

>>102497671
FUCKKKK

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:26:09 No.102498780 Report

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>>102480918
Well it wasn't just that it seems, they were doing with a bunch of artists and who knows what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:27:33 No.102498873 Report

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>>102495107
There are quite a few Japanese whorepos, I wonder if any of them would actually be interested in hiring her
I'm not sure if they have the resources to sponsor her visa or not though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:37:07 No.102499520 Report

Quoted By: >>102501217

This might just be the biggest yab in vtubing history. A top 3 corpo literally going completely defunct overnight.
if I was a corpo CEO i'd be pretty fucking scared about my companies future right now desu, the industry is turning hard against them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:39:24 No.102499675 Report

Quoted By:

>>102497671
A THIRD NUKE STRUCK THE 4CHAN SERVERS
OWARI DAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:52:26 No.102500619 Report

Quoted By:

>>102473111
Not all of the VAllure girls are sluts, check out Mercy sometime. Some of them only do the lewd patreons but have wholesome-ish YouTube channels. Also v-dere is getting popular thanks to that tomboy horsegirl with the abs!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 05:53:03 No.102500657 Report

Quoted By:

poor Amalee

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:01:11 No.102501217 Report

Quoted By: >>102501733 >>102501879 >>102503343

>>102499520
>A top 3 corpo literally going completely defunct overnight.
This wasn't really "overnight" tbf
Vshojo has basically bleed like 2/3rds of members since 2023
Shit obviously wasn't on fire like it is now, but they've been in a precarious situation for months now since Matara and Geege left

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:08:19 No.102501733 Report

Quoted By:

>>102501217
Ehhh anyone could survive losing a couple talents the way Vshojo lost Matara and Geega, but losing Their #1 talent the way they did would kill even Hololive. Vshojo as a business can in no way exist after this yab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:10:26 No.102501879 Report

Quoted By: >>102503932

>>102501217
Why do people keep saying Matara left? She was fired

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:31:42 No.102503283 Report

Quoted By:

>>102484831
Mel first time JAV debut is upon us

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:32:46 No.102503343 Report

Quoted By:

>>102501217
They literally remove vshojo from their twitter bio, even the jp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:41:47 No.102503932 Report

Quoted By: >>102504008

>>102501879
why

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:43:03 No.102504008 Report

Quoted By: >>102504041

>>102503932
Being a greedy whore, supposedly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:43:36 No.102504041 Report

Quoted By: >>102504242

>>102504008
so money dispute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:46:10 No.102504205 Report

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>>102484831
Finanically she can move back and it's not an issue, it's only the vibes that she moved to Japan for
People forget these streamers are multi-millionaires, especially with how vtuber merch sells much more per CCV than normal streamers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:46:37 No.102504242 Report

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>>102504041
I guess so

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 06:52:08 No.102504517 Report

Quoted By: >>102509516

>>102486975
>having done live action porn before.
Sauce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 07:04:12 No.102504834 Report

Quoted By:

>>102484831
She can join VAllure, they make adult content

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 07:21:29 No.102505162 Report

Quoted By:

>>102484831
Good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 07:25:04 No.102505220 Report

Quoted By: >>102508487

>>102469155
I didn't even know this was possible. I thought she like owned Vshojo or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 08:33:06 No.102507652 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 08:52:16 No.102508487 Report

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>>102505220
all the original girls willingly put on the chains, absolutely female behavior

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 09:16:07 No.102509516 Report

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>>102504517
Completely unrelated topic but Mars Mayhem was a great live action porn star. Perhaps you should look into her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 09:51:55 No.102510953 Report

Quoted By: >>102511530 >>102511781

>>102480444
>deadline for giving money to IDF
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 10:07:40 No.102511530 Report

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>>102510953
Yeah it's rather unfortunate that the charity shares its acronym with the Israeli military, particularly considering the flesh circles Ironmouse moves in. Funny seeing people being confused on Twitter and in chats though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 10:15:02 No.102511781 Report

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>>102510953
Every major organization in the US is beholden to the IDF and has a strict deadline for forking over a cut of all their profits each quarter. Vshojo missed theirs and look at what happened...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 10:48:16 No.102513007 Report

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>>102469155
Brave Group bailout soon

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 11:15:49 No.102514000 Report

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>>102469155

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 11:46:50 No.102515027 Report

Quoted By:

>>102469155
the talent
the freedom

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 11:49:16 No.102515106 Report

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>>102473087
Yeah but is she the cause or just catalyst

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:16:21 No.102516449 Report

Quoted By:

>>102469155
KSON stream is another happening right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:27:36 No.102517115 Report

Quoted By: >>102517179 >>102517522 >>102517981 >>102524276 >>102527919

Objectively speaking is there any way vshojo can damage control this situation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:28:45 No.102517179 Report

Quoted By:

>>102517115
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:34:14 No.102517522 Report

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>>102517115
Everyone is admitting Vshojo hasn't paid them for a year now. Sounds like Vshojo ran out of money some time ago and has been trying to placate their talents with lies and empty promises that they'll have their money next tuesday for real this time. It's completely over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:41:04 No.102517981 Report

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>>102517115
EN? No way. It's over. They lost their golden goose and its been revealed that their payment method is essentialy a ponzi.
JP? Possibly. Just blame it on baka gaijin greed and degeneracy and hope the japs eat it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:41:45 No.102518035 Report

Quoted By:

>>102484831
She’s rich. I don’t give a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:48:09 No.102518456 Report

Quoted By: >>102518873 >>102527201

>>102478761
Nigger, Vshojo owes a charity 500k besides whatever amount they owe Ironmouse. This is the tip of the iceberg as Vshojo owes people a lot of fucking money. Ironmouse isn't as rich as you think she is. A lot of her sub money isn't going to her but her agency. Hell most of the corpo vtubers aren't as rich as you think. I know of a couple who only made 12k a year while another streamer with simmilar views and sub/members count made almost half a million dollars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:50:53 No.102518621 Report

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>>102480197
That's the guy who saw Vtubers as his personal harem. Dude even solicited real pics from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 12:54:48 No.102518873 Report

Quoted By: >>102519268

>>102518456
ironmouse is extremely rich. she is easily worth 10 million+ USD. you don't realize how much money "influencers" make

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:01:07 No.102519268 Report

Quoted By: >>102519579 >>102519803

>>102518873
She is valued as that but she doesn't have that. Most of that money goes to the Agency. People value Vtubers like that due to the views, subs and merch sales but most of that money goes to the Agency. Talent get paid by the agency. Someone who works at McDonald's full-time gets paid more money than most Vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:07:04 No.102519579 Report

Quoted By:

>>102519268
Cope, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:10:08 No.102519761 Report

Quoted By:

>>102478615
>The 3rd and onwards are trash though
trash can be successful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:10:54 No.102519803 Report

Quoted By: >>102519890 >>102522504

>>102519268
even if she signed a contract that gave the company 90% of her revenue (which she didn't because literally no one is that dumb, even vtubers) she is still absurdly rich by any reasonable standard
there is literally no way she streamed with her numbers for as long as she did without making millions of dollars, even with a company taking half

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:12:29 No.102519890 Report

Quoted By:

>>102519803
You would be surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:13:15 No.102519928 Report

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>>102469155
parrot4chan fucked zaion deflection

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:42:21 No.102521639 Report

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wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 13:57:56 No.102522504 Report

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>>102519803
You're forgetting the absolute metric fuckton of money she pays for her medical bills

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 14:30:31 No.102524276 Report

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>>102517115
No, they're well and truly fucked. It's just a matter of how long it takes them to reach that conclusion. If their refusal to pay people has been far-reaching enough, they could be open to some extremely nasty fraud/embezzlement charges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 14:34:12 No.102524469 Report

Quoted By: >>102524680

>>102469155
People celebrating the fall of corpo scene is so delusional since it literally signals the fall of vtubing as well. Indie? They're barely relevant except for ex-Holo, who are destined to do worse than their corpo past life, the future of EN is so grim.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 14:35:15 No.102524533 Report

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am I like the only one here who doesnt watch Vshoto or hololive?
bizare

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 14:37:42 No.102524680 Report

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>>102524469
Vtubing (especially EN vtubing) was always going to be a bubble, anon. You knew this, at least deep down if not actively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 14:53:23 No.102525601 Report

Quoted By: >>102527069

2 nukes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 15:18:32 No.102527069 Report

Quoted By:

>>102525601
zhang

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 15:21:01 No.102527201 Report

Quoted By: >>102527953

>>102518456
Also if they're willing to steal 500k from a charity and the literal face of the company then they're definitely stealing from other talents and the taxman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 15:33:19 No.102527919 Report

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>>102517115
If I'm Gunrun at this point I'm more worried about avoiding embezzlement charges and federal prison than I am about VShojo surviving the month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2025 15:33:47 No.102527953 Report

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>>102527201
Yep. People here have no idea how much Vtubers are getting scammed. They see the big donos and merch sales and think all of that goes towards them. I DM with people in the streamer scene and the amount of money a flesh streamer makes is much more greater than Vtubers. A flesh streamer with less views makes more money than Vtubers in orgs.

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