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when will cover improve their 3D models?

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:09:14 No.1026079 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1026204 >>1026229 >>1026255 >>1026307 >>1026453 >>1029584 >>1035410 >>1044603

I want to see hololive's 3D get better, but they still lack things like moving hands. is the tech still too advanced, or is cover too cheap?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:17:23 No.1026204 Report

Quoted By: >>1026444

>>1026079
Cover being cheap. Ai had moving hands. Heck you can buy hand tracking your self nowadays. pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:19:24 No.1026229 Report

Quoted By: >>1026444

>>1026079
They seem to cheap out for normal 3D streams and only really use moving hand shit for concerts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:21:44 No.1026255 Report

Quoted By: >>1026444

>>1026079
cheap, the finger tech isnt expensive for a big company

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:25:25 No.1026307 Report

Quoted By: >>1042212

>>1026079
I thought they already had hand tracking?
Or at least I recall watching a stream where their hands were moving

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:32:21 No.1026444 Report

Quoted By: >>1026560 >>1026584

>>1026204
>>1026229
>>1026255
makes no sense when you rake in tons of money. ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:33:00 No.1026453 Report

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>>1026079
Gotta super chat harder if you want them girls to have the moving 2d arms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:39:01 No.1026560 Report

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>>1026444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkok9y1ZQDk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 15:41:17 No.1026584 Report

Quoted By: >>1030262

>>1026444
yo where is this webm from? they look cute as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 16:22:29 No.1027262 Report

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I looked around and found out that it works if you just buy the merch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Hz-6jyDc4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 16:25:05 No.1027314 Report

Quoted By: >>1029966

Imagine wanting hololive to become even more corporate and soulless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 16:39:18 No.1027614 Report

Quoted By: >>1027644

at the bare minimum please fix Marine's design. Look at her feet Jesus Christ. Even changing her model so she doesn't have heels anymore would be acceptable the rigging is just terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 16:41:06 No.1027644 Report

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>>1027614
Marine derserves an update in her 3D model. I want her to stop pogging on accident everytime she's surprised

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 16:55:11 No.1027891 Report

Quoted By: >>1028069 >>1029888 >>1042486

Even Pochi, who is a comparatively small chuuba, has finger tracking with her 3D model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 17:04:39 No.1028069 Report

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>>1027891
someone post the webm, you know the one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:16:03 No.1029584 Report

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>>1026079
One reason it looks so jank is that the girls don't match the height or limb proportions of their characters. This gives them this weird vrchat like limb snapping

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:28:49 No.1029888 Report

Quoted By: >>1030334 >>1035539 >>1041589 >>1042464

>>1027891
Pochi uses LeapMotion, which only works in desk environment.

Most of the 3D jankyness from Cover side is just pure stupid from rigging team giving artists free reign to mis-match avatars as they want disregarding the physical person behind it.

like, how the hell do you plan to do Oga's 3D model, guy sure as hell ain't +2meters tall

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:32:34 No.1029966 Report

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>>1027314
photorealism is whats made western video games and films garbage. westacucks can never understand it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:43:36 No.1030262 Report

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>>1026584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmmnB4bP0M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:45:40 No.1030334 Report

Quoted By: >>1030483

>>1029888
Yeah this is still a problem hard to solve, Nijisanji just said fuck it and made Roa's 3D like herself, she was much taller than the live2D made it seem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:48:20 No.1030411 Report

Quoted By: >>1042212

its a joke how bad covers tech is, they fucking use VR for tracking instead of tracking suits. we have shit like apex mirage being directly streamed from mocap in their cinematic engine, hell even codemiko has far more advanced tech for being a solo. she can transform her proportions, use dynamic alt models, turn her model into a controllable game character, etc

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:51:57 No.1030483 Report

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>>1030334
Matsuri and Korone match 1:1 with their avatars, and it shows in the movement quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 21:51:44 No.1035410 Report

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>>1026079
>I want to see hololive's 3D get better
they wont until they get decent competition

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 21:56:17 No.1035539 Report

Quoted By: >>1036680

>>1029888
honestly the wonkiness from mismatched heights thing can even be solved if they re-targeted animations correctly, but we all know that COVER is a "tech company" ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 22:28:03 No.1036680 Report

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>>1035539
As long as they don't try to interact with each other in the same room

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2021 22:30:42 No.1036772 Report

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I mean, at least Marine's is better than the old one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 00:48:41 No.1041589 Report

Quoted By: >>1041709

>>1029888
>Holostars
>getting 3d models
>ever

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 00:53:13 No.1041709 Report

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>>1041589
Rikka has one but that's it
https://youtu.be/OJWVFa-2ggY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 01:02:28 No.1041936 Report

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I really don't understand why people shit on covers 3d
Niggersanji only gives good 3d if you're a company favorite
The only better 3d models I've seen are from video game companies that dont track movements but just move the model through animation which is much easier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 01:14:48 No.1042212 Report

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>>1026307
I think they just have controls for doing preset gestures.
>>1030411
>its a joke how bad covers tech is, they fucking use VR for tracking instead of tracking suits
There's nothing wrong with that. Tracking suits are much more of a hassle to use and do not offer anything better than VR trackers. Not to mention the suits are much more expensive.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 01:28:16 No.1042464 Report

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>>1029888
the enterprise version of LeapMotion has a significantly better tracking range, works in worse lighting conditions and isn't that much more expensive. there's also open source drivers that integrate it with the SteamVR environment meaning that functions as any other device (assuming Cover still bases their setup around VR equipment.. considering the ongoing partnership with HTC and Yagoo being a VRfag it may be to some extent). pair that with a neck mount and you're good to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 01:29:33 No.1042486 Report

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>>1027891
such an amazing character design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 01:40:51 No.1042738 Report

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Cover's 3D models are fine, but Nijisanji still shits on them with better tracking and post-processing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 01:45:56 No.1042824 Report

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Cover focuses more on Live2d quality than 3d. Nijisanji has better 3d but their behind with Live2ds as I don't think they have anyone that is comparable to someone like Mori.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Feb 2021 03:21:08 No.1044603 Report

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>>1026079
both Hololive and Nijisanji get beaten by Chinese vtubers in terms of 3D setups in all honesty.

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