>>103052681We're talking about total/monthly viewership which Mori had basically always dominated between the two of even at their peaks
>Mori regularly dipped under 2k CCV while Gura was over 16k for most of hers.I mean yes, but that's really just a byproduct of Mori streaming far more often than Gura did and her willingly to play "Debuff" content that she enjoyed over games that would bring high CCV
>Gura also had massively more VOD views.Yes Gura's VoDs are huge I'll admit that, but Mori has always pulled in good VoD viewership as well which how she was basically always to stay on top of EN's 30-day view count even when she wasn't releasing music
>You're trying to fudge numbers. Mori gets decentish views on her music She's so easily the 2nd/3rd most popular musician in Holo
>but she's the only Holo who is focused on music as much as SuiseiNo? there's several Holos who focus on music like them as well but they're probably 2 of the noteworthy ones which why you can easily single them out
>Suisei and she's a long, long, long way behind Suisei on that too.Not really? or more specifically that's a recent occurrence considering prior to Suisei's appearance on First Take/Bibbidiba helping break into the mainstream, they were basically neck-and-neck
>It's easier to shill music than be a pure vtuberIt's really fucking now, you have to actually invest a ton more time/effort/money into being a music vtuber so success/failure effects you far more harsher than a vtuber only streams
>but she's still not where she should beNo? She's had multiple sold-out Solos concerts including one in the US which is basically uncharted ground for vtubers, had multiple high-selling projects that sold enough for her be able to chart on billboard, has several TV appearances, done musical for shit like One Piece, MGS, and JP brands, she was in anime ED, collabed with several noteworthy Japanese artist, like Zuytomayo, Creepynuts or Hanazawa, performed at the Saitama Super Arena and Budokan. She's basically at the proverbial peak as far vtubing has been able to go thus far
>given she got gifted a golden ticket by debuting in Myth and collecting a free million subscribers riding the easiest wave of hype in vtuber historyYou misunderstand, her like everyone else in Myth didn't "ride a wave" they created it, there would be no wave if not for them
>she hasn't released a single song that beats RIPs views in 5 years while Suisei is starting to get songs over 100 million views.Suisei has 1 (one) song over 100 million views, and as I said before that really has to due with opportunity (opportunity that Mori hasn't gotten) and Suisei being smart enough to strategize around that opportunity and use it fullest potential
Anyways, that's really besides the initial point though and just you deflecting
