>>104220343>>104220901>>104220924Here's my 2 cents on the matter:
The whole idea of "Indie Avengers" coined in here, assumes the idea that the corpo graduates are now a collective brand fanbase of their own, like how the corpos promotes their brand talent's IPs as "teams". But that's not really the case for indies, graduates or not.
When Advent makes a branch collab, or there's a multi branch collab or an hyped event/tournament, there's bound to have several POVs and the fanbases will spread thin. There will be a huge CCV discrepancy when someone is botted (Wolf Quest collab where everyone had around 2k, but Bijou got engined into 15k).
But if it's just one or two corpo chuuba are streaming, they will stockpile all the currently online fanbase + active botting seeds (like Bijou right now).
That doesn't happen to indies.
Saba watchers won't rally for a Nimi stream, who also wouldn't for a Dooby stream, nor Mint's, Doki's.
Ironmouse's into other Vshoujo chuubas won't as well.
What's was left of Coco fanbase didn't migrate to Kson (corpo fanbase will stay corpo, and fleshstreams aren't "hololive coded" enough), and Mikeneko got both buffs and debuffs through the "drama PR".
My surmise to anon's take:
When any of the indies collab, their ccv numbers won't spread due to the nature of their individual fanbases (non "team brand"), multiple povs become a "collab buff" instead (Dooby's reaching 9k on youtube alone, even with Saba's pov).
Calli and Bijou are often botted, but otherwise, every individual HoloEN talent have around 2~3k unique viewers (if we spread the "team fanbase" into individual talent fanbases).
While Nimi or multi-platforming Dooby, 4k+ (culled, non-culled, etc).