>>106255866>saw the movieJust the first one? Because it gets so much worse from there. Despite how everything gets simplified to "sparkly vampires," the first book is the least notable.
I'm presuming your real question is, "Why do things teen girls like get more hate than the equivalent for dudes?" No one talks about things specifically for men because nothing is marketed explicitly "for men." Male is assumed as default, so "made for men" has never been anyone's go to for why a work is bad. Unless it's super obviously a gooner game, it's assumed to be for general audiences. "For women," however, IS something you can often see in how female-oriented works will advertise themselves. I'd consider the Hunger Games to be a type of female wish fulfillment that was an exception to the rule, which can be sold to a general audience due to it being action-first. Because "for women" is made into its own feature, people will see that as a reason for a work to be bad in the same way that they see remakes as a reason to be bad. Surface level distinction.
However, I am an autistic hater and will answer the literal question as well. Twilight is not your generic "general public hates thing teenage girls enjoy." There's also "popular thing leaks into shit you like" and "god this is genuinely just bad in a unique way."
>State of pop cultureThings like SAO and any modern day series absolutely cannot compare to how much this was talked about and how much the general public had to see it. Now, even if something's popular, it's still contained to various bubbles of the population. At the time Twilight was big, we still had a culture where everyone in the general population would know about the same media in pop culture, or at least they were aware that it existed.
>Oversaturation...and BOY, were people sick of seeing it! Constant exposure only makes any negative feelings about a work even worse. Plus, the fact that you had a series of 4 books and 5 movies meant that it would come back over and over and over again. Not that many works have that level of staying power. There was arguably an additional small bump from 50 Shades of Grey, which was a modified Twilight fanfiction, bringing it back into public mindshare. There was arguably an additional small bump from 50 Shades of Grey, which was a modified Twilight fanfiction, bringing it back into public mindshare.
>Discourse. So much discourse.There's a lot of ammo against the series, which prolongs how long people who have engaged with the series will talk about it and how long that people who haven't will have to hear about it due to it being unescapable. This reinforces the idea that the series is bad to the latter, though they likely won't really know why it's bad and default to "sparkly vampire stupid." Still adds another layer of reinforcement.
Now for the discourse:
>Influence on other mediaTwilight influenced both YA literature and general vampire media for the worse as publishers and producers tried to chase the trend and get the attention of Twilight's demographic. As you can imagine, people who enjoyed that media did not appreciate it. YA fans were sick of vampires everywhere, and vampire enjoyers did not appreciate the cleaned-up, non-threatening versions of their monsters. Oh, and the 50 Shades of Grey association later, which kicked off its own controversy from "mommy porn" and people doing kink unsafely.
>Romanticizing "problematic content"This is not the same as the current moral outrage people use to justify their ship wars. This was older women going, "do teen girls really think this behavior is good?" And the answer was a solid yes. People had an issue with the normalization of unhealthy behaviors that were like...actual day-to-day problems that women commonly had in relationships, not the fantasy parts that don't reflect reality. Also, Mormon shit.
>Divisive final entryBreaking Dawn was that shitty and caused controversy at release due to how off-the-walls it ended up. Plot issues getting worse, weird POV switches, and some shit that was so bad that people will still remember THAT if nothing else. This only got worse with the movie adaption. Again, the general public is going to get their impressions from fans/ex-fans, many of which who were mad about the book, and some members of the general public were probably dragged along to the movie theater to see for themselves. So what exactly were their final experiences with Twilight? Among other things...
>ImprintingBig reveal: Jacob is in love with Bella's newborn baby, not Bella! Turns out he was drawn to her egg cell. No matter what fantasy you dress it up as, it doesn't beat out how the reveal is framed. You cannot go from the bliss of motherhood and bonding with your newborn child to a grown ass man declaring that his soulmate is your sweet baby girl. Not until she grows up, but he's definitely fucking her whether you like it or not. This is an example of what I mean by "uniquely bad."
Fuck Twilight.
