>>106867972> You are using improper translations of the old testament [...]You didn’t fix anything by pasting your preferred translation. The passage explicitly describes coercion, forced servitude, mass killing of men, and enslaving women and children, followed by genocidal extermination of nearby peoples. No translation removes these elements.
> God is Himself Goodness…You keep running in circles with this self-defeating claim. If “good” is whatever God does, even genocide, then “good” becomes unintelligible to humans. You undermine your own ability to recognize God as good, which means you lose the basis for trusting scripture, prophets, or revelation at all.
> False dichotomy… God certainly chose Israel as His representative…After a wall of text, you still concede the exact point: God Himself created the divide. You’re just too afraid to say it plainly. You try to blame “Jewish pride,” but the Bible repeatedly states that God singled out Israel and rejected neighboring peoples.
> Egyptians didn’t record humiliations… 95% of Egypt unexcavated… geography unknown…This is pure cope. We have extensive archaeology of New Kingdom Egypt and Canaan, and it contradicts the Exodus narrative:
Exodus 1:11 says Hebrews built Pithom and Raamses. Archaeology shows Pi-Ramesses was built by Egyptians in the 13th century BCE, and Pithom wasn’t inhabited until later.
Egypt remained a dominant military empire—so “the entire army drowned” is disproven by history.
The Sinai was full of Egyptian forts; no mass migration of 2 million people ever occurred.
Jericho and Ai were not fortified cities at the time Joshua supposedly destroyed them.
As for “unknown geography,” there is no evidence that land, such as the entire Nile Delta, just vanishes.
> Never said thatYou absolutely did say it. You used the plagues to explain the Egyptians giving valuables. Now you’re pretending otherwise because the narrative collapses when you need an intact army for the chase scene.
> The plagues stop happening after they happened, yes. Aristotle talks about this…Desperate, aren't you? Aristotle never talks about anything of this.
> Never did or said anything like that…You did. Your argument was literally: “Humans wrote the Bible; God didn’t override their free will to correct things.”
But now you defend God overriding Pharaoh’s will to force him into disaster, so “free will” is only sacred when you need an excuse for textual contradictions. You can’t claim God is too respectful of free will to correct scribes, but not too respectful to hijack Pharaoh’s psychology.
> Again, false dichotomy… God gives people to their desires…“Giving someone to their desires” means God causes their delusion; God becomes indistinguishable from the Devil, a being who entraps and destroys humans by amplifying their worst impulses. You’ve contradicted your own earlier claims about divine goodness and free will.
> There has been no archeological discovery that contradicted Scripture…This is objectively false.
Jericho: no walls at the time of Joshua
Ai: abandoned centuries earlier
Canaanite settlement patterns: show gradual internal shift, not foreign invasion
Exodus population: 2 million people in Sinai is ecologically impossible
No Egyptian record of the disasters or the mass departure of a huge slave class
You can’t just declare contradictions nonexistent.
> You're just a retardAww... how cute. Whenever you can't even come up with an attempt at a rebuttal to a solid argument, you just panic and resort to just calling names, afraid to even cite what you are responding to.
> God’s mind contains all… He knew us before birth…If God has infinite imagination, then using recycled Mesopotamian and Levantine folklore makes no sense. Your own quote about the Sargon legend undercuts you: the text reflects older oral traditions, even if the surviving written form is later. It predates the Exodus account and influenced it.
> Hebrew settlements and language show Egyptian elements…You are mixing up time frames and civilizations here. At the time the Exodus was written (almost a millennia after the story supposedly happened, as evidenced by the very thing you point out), Canaan had become a vassal of the Egyptian Empire, which is distinct linguistically and culturally from the Egypt the story supposedly takes places in. The inaccuracies in the Exodus story (wrong geography, anachronistic details, invented cities) show later authors projecting their own era backward.
> The Church was kept from error… relics are venerated, not expected to do miracles…You contradict your earlier points:
- God allows Scriptural errors due to free will.
- But prevents errors in councils
- Except saints’ stories, as told in the councils, can be wrong. Relic traditions can contradict. Doctrinal development is messy.
So God preserves infallibility only in whatever institution you personally trust, and only when it’s rhetorically convenient. This is arbitrary and self-contradictory.
