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Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:27:46 No.107475661 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>107475937 >>107475938 >>107476241 >>107477042 >>107477333 >>107489630 >>107489631 >>107489764 >>107491046 >>107494529 >>107504246 >>107504387

Is pandering to normalfags the new meta? Is this the future of vtubing especially indie vtubing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:35:45 No.107475937 Report

Quoted By: >>107476245 >>107481741

>>107475661
She did it for years and what did it get her? A failed company, and fleshy streamers laughing at her singing during the awards. She's a pet, and a bit like Hasan's dog they don't treat her well.

So no, it's not the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:35:47 No.107475938 Report

Quoted By: >>107497530

>>107475661
Nah, that's only Ironmouse.
She wants everyone to be a vtuber, for some strange reason.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:45:51 No.107476241 Report

Quoted By: >>107476341

>>107475661
Gunrun… if you can hear us… please save me.
These normietubers are surrounding me… strike down Ironlung before it’s too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:45:58 No.107476245 Report

Quoted By: >>107476371 >>107477372 >>107481741

>>107475937
We gotta admit excluding hololive she's almost the biggest, plus I'm seeing a lot of vtuber doing flesh reveals.

God, VT I don't feel so good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:49:05 No.107476341 Report

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>>107476241
It's to late

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 21:49:45 No.107476371 Report

Quoted By: >>107476832 >>107477309

>>107476245
>almost rhr biggest
Primarily in mindshare (and that's largely because she's constantly appearing with big fleshies) rather than pure numbers. And after this you have to ask yourself (and I'm sure she is too) how many of those viewers will happily jump ship to a fleshy who's similar because they're not actually interested in vtubing? I'd guess a significant proportion.
>seeing a lot of vtuber doing flesh reveals
A lot of 3view and low 4view Twitch whores who only became vtubers to ride the wave of popularity after 2021, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:04:04 No.107476832 Report

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>>107476371
Agreed but with how she responded, pretty sure iron mouse is not thinking of that at all, she's basically daring people to jump ship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:11:43 No.107477042 Report

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>>107475661
she sure believes so

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:19:30 No.107477309 Report

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>>107476371
>Primarily in mindshare rather than pure numbers
she's lit the 4th or 5th most watched female vtuber this year. All the one above her are holo jp first army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:20:12 No.107477333 Report

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>>107475661
It's really not that complicated, you can make good money with vtubing, but the top flesh streamers make 1000x as much money.
So it makes sense to leech from people like KaiCarat, HamasAbi or Asmongoloid for success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:21:17 No.107477372 Report

Quoted By: >>107477639 >>107489276 >>107494588

>>107476245
What really shocked me seeing all those twitch only normies loudly proclaiming that vtubers are just "cheap goonbait". Those whores really poisoned the well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:30:40 No.107477639 Report

Quoted By: >>107477763 >>107488967

>>107477372
Gotta disagree I like my whore agency gotta defend them, but if where only talking twitch whore vtuber I agree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:34:56 No.107477763 Report

Quoted By: >>107477916 >>107480129 >>107494554

>>107477639
The problem is that VAllure is pretty unique on youtube while 90% of twitch vtubers are just there to funnel guys into their OF/Fansley/Patreon goon subscriptions, and even though they are an adult corpo they are still more tame in their YT streams than a LOT of these twitch whores.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:35:33 No.107477784 Report

Quoted By: >>107479992

Does it surprise people that liggers like normalfags and fleshstreamers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:36:01 No.107477793 Report

Quoted By: >>107506882

Im happy this bitch is finally getting dragged

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 22:40:59 No.107477916 Report

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>>107477763
They can be pretty funny, I have to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGyNzJRJCxw

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 23:55:19 No.107479992 Report

Quoted By: >>107489872

>>107477784
Not surprised they like normal fags but surprised they rather pick them than their own community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 23:59:51 No.107480129 Report

Quoted By: >>107480562

>>107477763
They have Patreon, I should know.
But yeah 100% better than twitch whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 00:12:54 No.107480562 Report

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>>107480129
Yes, but most of them are vtubers who also sell adult stuff. Twitch whores are pornlets who also act as vtubers. It's not the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 00:47:33 No.107481741 Report

Quoted By: >>107485367 >>107490083 >>107490440 >>107496177

>>107475937
>>107476245
the twitch whores will be twitch whores
it's mori and holo generally drifting in that direction which concerns me
in one year we've gone from holo functionally boycotting filian's popularity contest to appearing in this far worse shitshow and that upcoming games award faggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 00:55:40 No.107482015 Report

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Wow I really love this new schizo angle
I'm gonna love it even more when they're still posting about it 5 years from now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 02:10:45 No.107485367 Report

Quoted By: >>107489666

>>107481741
That's what I'm worried about, I believe it will either happen or Mori graduate.
Other than Mori I feel like she's the only one with visible connection to the twitch circle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 03:37:51 No.107488967 Report

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>>107477639
You really don't have to defend them. You just prove them right when you do, which is fucked up because most vtubers are not like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 03:46:28 No.107489276 Report

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>>107477372
>seiso and idol culture was a big advantage vtubing had over twitch thots
>ruin it for simp bucks
>the twitch thots win because now you're just them with less skin showing
Imagine my shock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 03:55:37 No.107489581 Report

Quoted By: >>107489920 >>107497599

Ironmouse thank you so much for appealing and sucking up to people who hate vtubing and the vtubing community thats just so good of you. All Ironmouse needs to do now is dip her toes into the destiny and nick Fuentes clique and english vtubing will be all but destroyed. I cant day I'm surprised, shes on record saying she hates vtubing and if was healthy wouldnt be doing it. Shes literally on record saying shed rathed be a struggling singer trying to join a choir and big band than being a vtuber. Ironmouse has such a disdain and bitterful hatred of vtubing because of her circumstances that she's doing everything she can to burn it down all while proping herself up

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Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 03:57:18 No.107489630 Report

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>>107475661
if ironmouse is popular then she is by definition a normalfag. none of you fucking retards can enjoy vtubers semantically and should probably move on to the next trend already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 03:57:20 No.107489631 Report

Quoted By: >>107489816

>>107475661
>Is pandering to normalfags the new meta?
Yes, look at vidya and anime. Worked for them, financially at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 03:57:59 No.107489666 Report

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>>107485367
Eh. I'd say Mori is getting pulled back into Holo due to Justice collabs.

Also if Yumi the Witch is one of the EN5 hires she'll have someone to do Warhammer painting streams with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:00:13 No.107489764 Report

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>>107475661
she has a medical condition please understand!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:01:28 No.107489816 Report

Quoted By:

>>107489631
Grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:02:11 No.107489846 Report

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the hundreds of thousands of dollars helps her cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:02:45 No.107489872 Report

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>>107479992
Have you seen the community?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:04:07 No.107489920 Report

Quoted By: >>107496149 >>107497323

>>107489581
>on record saying she hates vtubing
sauce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:08:23 No.107490083 Report

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>>107481741
that was always mori's goal from the beginning though. People forget what she was like in 2021

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:12:56 No.107490216 Report

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I think it's okay that vtubing will never hit it big like the normie streamers, there's nothing wrong in it staying a hobbie where the Indies have around 2-5k ccv, that's already better than most streamers and for some enough to make a living out of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:19:55 No.107490440 Report

Quoted By: >>107490653

>>107481741
its not just Mori its who they have hired on for western staff/management. you think they dont have connections with the LA twitch clique and incentives to push for this? look at the recent "Holo takeover" on Twitch they just did, its all silicone valley networking going on behind the scenes. not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:27:47 No.107490653 Report

Quoted By: >>107492101

>>107490440
>its all silicone valley networking
I wouldn't be surprised if half of the fuckers they've hired on used to be involved with NijiEN in some capacity when that was the chuuba project of choice for weeb-adjacent cali streamers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:41:20 No.107491013 Report

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I already see hololive imploding due to one talent and being farmed by big twitch streamers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 04:42:23 No.107491046 Report

Quoted By: >>107491680

>>107475661
Iulz let's be honest here, the normies she brouhr into the community didnt turned into fan but pests that actively mocks the community. She literally invites the twitchfaggots to invade our space and look where we are now.

If you want someone who actually bring normies into vtubing and become fan, it's gura and myth. Mousey is literally both Ng done good in vtubing and even fillian clears her up in terms of value and importance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 05:05:04 No.107491680 Report

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>>107491046
In the end we are stuck with iron mouse, it's just going to get worse and worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 05:22:56 No.107492101 Report

Quoted By: >>107492222

>>107490653
Kind of feels like small corpos and below-the-radar indies are where the good vibe is going. Black company shit, twitch celebrities and big indie drama are just murdering any positivity in the culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 05:27:17 No.107492222 Report

Quoted By: >>107492557

>>107492101
Having fun watching roca 3d but damn the waves from this big corpo and indies are just to big to ignore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 05:39:18 No.107492557 Report

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>>107492222
Yeah that was great. Rem's concert last month was really nice too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 06:21:18 No.107493629 Report

Quoted By: >>107493732

>ironlung trying to shift a whole community again
Deja vu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 06:26:04 No.107493732 Report

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>>107493629
How many times has it been at this point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 06:46:51 No.107494187 Report

Quoted By: >>107494382

Just to explain it in simple terms, this whole pandering to normies has always been applied.
Her biggest collab partner is a IRL normie youtuber with friendly connections to the LA nepo streamer cartel, ludwig on top of his list.
So of course she's willing to bend a knee for them, even tho they are the same people that appeals to an audience like kai that harrassed her on social media for years, ironically also caused by the SAME award show. And that's my problem with her why she's now pandering to the same type of people that would say the most heinous shit to her, this goes beyond my logical compass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 06:54:25 No.107494382 Report

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>>107494187
I feel like it's not pandering anymore, it still is but it more like she made a choice and her choice is the normie community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 06:59:24 No.107494529 Report

Quoted By: >>107494622

>>107475661
of course a vtwitcher would hate the vtuber community, how is that even a question?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 07:00:31 No.107494554 Report

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>>107477763
>VAllure is pretty unique on youtube
only in EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 07:02:04 No.107494588 Report

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>>107477372
It's just the truth. Sometimes you just pull up any random vtuber on the 2nd monitor while you are playing a new ero game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 07:03:13 No.107494622 Report

Quoted By: >>107504165

>>107494529
Cause when she post things like new song, new project, normie doesn't give a shit, the vtubing community does.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe vtuber community is just a small part of her audience and it's all normie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 08:17:02 No.107496149 Report

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>>107489920
>sauce?
pag pag fueled delusions probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 08:18:33 No.107496177 Report

Quoted By: >>107496212 >>107501884

>>107481741
Blame ERB who has been raiding Koefficient, been streaming on Twitch and has been talking to RTgame and Ironkek's boyfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 08:20:53 No.107496212 Report

Quoted By: >>107506811

>>107496177
unbelievably grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 09:53:23 No.107497323 Report

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>>107489920
If there was, you wouldn't need to ask because it would be spammed at every opportunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 10:08:43 No.107497530 Report

Quoted By: >>107501859

>>107475938
Because money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 10:13:54 No.107497599 Report

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>>107489581
>destiny
You mean nick fuentes yt debate archival?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 10:53:17 No.107498186 Report

Quoted By: >>107499660

hi twitter, i hope you like my AI fanart kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 12:36:44 No.107499660 Report

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>>107498186
that one tweet alone was worth the technodystopia

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 15:06:01 No.107501859 Report

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>>107497530
No amount of money will heal her

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 15:07:03 No.107501884 Report

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>>107496177
I like to believe there is no 5th justice member and erb was just the replacement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 17:03:01 No.107504165 Report

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>>107494622
>maybe vtuber community is just a small part of her audience and it's all normie.
that has always been my impression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 17:06:14 No.107504246 Report

Quoted By: >>107504733

>>107475661
>meta
>it's a few whores who wish they could be fleshies
Learn what words mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 17:11:28 No.107504387 Report

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>>107475661
She could kill puppies if someone offered her the normiecommunity on a silver platter, nothing new

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 17:26:22 No.107504733 Report

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>>107504246
That's how it's start one second it just a few whore, by the time you blink it'll be holomem and more vtuber doing it.

Future is bleak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 18:55:02 No.107506811 Report

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>>107496212
yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 18:58:44 No.107506882 Report

Quoted By: >>107509416

>>107477793
For what? She did nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 20:44:05 No.107509416 Report

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>>107506882
mainly her attitude of punching down on all other vtubers because she wants to be in the twitch clique and they hate vtubers, she doesn't realize she's alienating herself and not gaining anything

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