>>11274668Holding a conversation is waaaaaaaaay harder than understanding a stream. Expressing your own thoughts and forming your own phrases is the last thing that comes together when learning a new language, in my experience with both english and japanese.
I think a lot of people get discouraged from even beginning with learning a language because they think of how long it'll take to get good, but what they're missing is that you don't need to get good to start enjoying the things you're looking forward to enjoying, this will come much more quickly.
Not necessarily related to the conversation, just thought I'd add this anyway.
>>11274776God bless the dude who clipped the Ekum Bokum thing.