>>11999809It seems HoloEN just has some inane autistic aversion to doing "unstructured" content. We HAVE to have a game, because that can serve as a direction driver for any conversation (you just have to react and comment on what's happening in the game), and in a pure talking collab you'd have to come up with topics yourself on the fly, and they (wrongly) think they are not "good at it", and "no one would watch that" and that their audience is actually there for the game, not for them.
I think there's some reasonable middle ground to be reached. Okay, you're not confident enough to just do a pure improvised talking collab, so you need some kind of structure to hang on to? Just prepare some topics beforehand, make up some kind of "theme", or light "game/quiz show" process to the whole thing.
HoloJP does these frequently, often with Mio or Fubuki hosting, because they're good social facilitators. I would love to see for example a HoloEN "word wolf / taboo" game show, it's super easy to set up (there's not much to prepare than just a few list of words, you certainly don't have to set up any technical shit like with videogame collabs) and then just let the kino develop by itself naturally.
The sad thing is, HoloEN already DID do great shit like that, in the past, only sadly they seem to have let it fall to the wayside and instead got stuck in their comfortable but stale and lazy current routine of doing the same old fotm videogame collabs.
Remember the beginning, just after debut? The quiz shows? The drawing collabs? Snack tasting? Hell, even Ina and Kiara doing a fucking Arknights tier list (obviously, we wouldn't do Arknights again, but the general idea is still a great one - get someone with similar interests and geek out over a topic together). Great semi-structured non-videogame talking contents!
Ame's fish tank could've been another try at that, sadly it seems la creatividad won't get to it again, and we'll see what ever comes out of Mori/Baes "podcast" idea or if that is just more stuff to throw on the pile of halfbaked stillborn promises.
You could also see the same thing happen with HoloCouncil - in their first month, during the collab ban, they still hade (like Myth back then, pretty much the same) their own fullgroup collabs with non-videogame semi-structured talking content (quiz shows etc.), but after the collab ban was over, everybody also just fucked off into their own ventures, now all collabs are also just videogame related (either directly, as in an official scheduled collab "hey we're playing XY game together on that date" or semi-related, as in they see someone's online in minecraft an hop on voice chat. It's better than an official gameplay collab, since minecraft lends itself better to casual talking besides the game, but there's still a game happening at least somewhere in the background).