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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 16:52:20 No.11994121 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 16:52:33 No.11994126 Report

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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 16:53:37 No.11994162 Report

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>>11993544
>That's why numberchads compares the sched/perf to early months of Myth
That's a good idea, here is the data for October 1-25 in 2020
>pic related
With 41 hours streamed ClockGirl would be on par with Ina (43 hours) and Calli (46 hours).

The numbers that impress me the most in this chart are
>Ame, 83 hours in 2020, 47 in 2021
and
>Roboco, 95 hours in 2020, 43 in 2021

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 16:56:37 No.11994268 Report

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oh no holobronys i thought you say the Pekora was the queen??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:02:12 No.11994447 Report

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>>11994268
Nice cut out nijinigger.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:06:27 No.11994592 Report

Quoted By: >>11994905 >>11995707

>>11994162
On another note: Here is a comparative chart between October 2020 and 2021

In 2020, from 1 to 25, the then existing Holo Girl streamed a collective
>1841 hours
In 2021, only
>1598 hours

Evenm accounting for the absences of Marine, Coco and AZKi (heh ,yeah) those only add up to 56 hours missing.

With that said, adding the remaining girls that weren't there in 2020, the number of hours adds up to 2022, which more than surpasses the 2020 number.
Seems like ID2, Irys and Council really came to allow for the rest of the girls to stream more sparsely and still keep the whole Hololive schedule filled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:10:07 No.11994713 Report

Quoted By: >>11994823 >>11995167 >>11995512

I’m guessing either Dec or Jan Hololive will put out another audition for the EN branch iirc.
Should be around the time wave 4 debits and ID3 debuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:10:28 No.11994726 Report

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>>11994162
>With 41 hours streamed ClockGirl would be on par with Ina (43 hours) and Calli (46 hours)

Mori was doing shorter streams, people could see her more often and it would not take as much time of your day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:13:02 No.11994823 Report

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>>11994713
We need JP6 first though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:14:08 No.11994857 Report

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>>11994823
this month, according to my ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:14:50 No.11994884 Report

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>>11994857
Dear anon's ass, can you tell me when is Myth's new outfits and 3D?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:15:26 No.11994905 Report

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>>11994162
>>11994592
Here is the % variation between their 2020 and 2021 numbers. With the sole exception of Matsuri (and Kiara, because she was still on her debut honeymoon period), all of the ones in the red coincide with the ones with the most visible recent improvement in their numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:18:25 No.11995019 Report

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>>11994823
Yagoo seems content with the number of gens in JP for now.
EN and ID are their main priority for adding members.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:18:53 No.11995034 Report

Quoted By: >>11995082 >>11995105 >>11995283 >>11995328 >>11995673 >>11995975 >>11996313 >>12006984

A question for the anons here. If you were Niji management and you decided to be more "involved" with NijiEn streams. What would be some possible ways to ensure that at least 1 of this 3 things happen?
>Selen expanding her core audience, the people who would watch her regardless of whoever else is streaming, to at least 3k by the end of the year.
>Expanding Lazulight and/or the rest of Obsydias core audience to at least 2k
>Raising Ethyria's average viewership to 2k

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:18:53 No.11995035 Report

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>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:19:21 No.11995056 Report

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>>11994884
this week = halloween stuff
1st-7th November = SportFest (with announcement of "something is coming" at the end)
8th-14th Nobember = Outifts (with also one jp)
15th-21th November = build up and JP6 release, so theyll be open for collabs a bit before Christmas
ID 3ds in december
EN 3ds in january

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:19:55 No.11995082 Report

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>>11995034
stfu niji intern

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:20:28 No.11995105 Report

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>>11995034
pray that the male wave will be successful

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:22:12 No.11995167 Report

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>>11994713
Iirc council debuted 6 months after the audition so ID will probably debut in March

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:22:25 No.11995173 Report

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>>11995105
I think that even if by some miracle the male wave did end up being successful, this wouldn't affect the girls numbers.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:24:23 No.11995241 Report

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>>11994162
O ye fools of little faith. Some may bash Kronii for not maximizing numbers by playing off stream but she currently has something better than numbers, she has a character arc. Like a typical denizen of Yagoos house of broken girls, Kronii is an autist. In particular, she’s a kuudere who doesn’t want others to share her struggle. This is her flaw that she will overcome in her idol journey. Mark my words, eventually she’ll be grinding a game and she will say something with her low voice along the lines of “Y’know playing with you guys isn’t bad. I thought it was better to just show you what I can do but now, I like being on a journey with you” It’ll be her pekomoona moment and cement her place as a high tier holo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:25:34 No.11995283 Report

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>>11995034
Do a collab with Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:26:04 No.11995313 Report

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>>11994268
I'll have solace knowing that her EN kouhai can collab with her without needing to pay a fee like Jewzuha

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:26:38 No.11995328 Report

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>>11995034
>Selen expanding her core audience, the people who would watch her regardless of whoever else is streaming, to at least 3k by the end of the year.
>Expanding Lazulight and/or the rest of Obsydias core audience to at least 2k
>Raising Ethyria's average viewership to 2k
Collab with Hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:27:48 No.11995359 Report

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>>11995313
>without needing to pay a fee
What is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:27:56 No.11995362 Report

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>>11995241
Big-breasted narcissistic tall kuudere that's hardworking and has a nice voice... Komi-san...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:29:25 No.11995397 Report

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>>11995283
>>11995328
Okay... Is there anything else that DOESN'T involve collabing with Holo since we all know that isn't happening anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:29:25 No.11995398 Report

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King is already ruining his numbers again by playing valo this time.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:30:30 No.11995433 Report

Quoted By: >>11995509 >>11995574 >>11995775 >>11998248

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,621: Miko (Hololive)
>27,907: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,230: Pekora (Hololive)
>15,574: Gura (Hololive)
>13,664: Baelz (Hololive)
>13,647: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,418: Gatchaman (Indie)
>12,978: Korone (Hololive)
>11,956: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,908: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,666: Suisei (Hololive)
>10,171: Shion (Hololive)

A skinny day at the top but with some surprising ending

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:32:20 No.11995485 Report

Quoted By: >>11995531 >>11995554

>>11995035
are you the top 10ks streams anon? please post it if so

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:33:08 No.11995509 Report

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>>11995433
Baelz beat the Sultan? Didn't realize she peaked so high, she really has been putting in the work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:33:13 No.11995512 Report

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>>11994713
Would be interesting if Niji/Holo auditions overlap this time, but I think Niji will announce their’s in November anyways to keep up the 2-3 month wave cycle.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:33:14 No.11995514 Report

Quoted By: >>11995911 >>11996106

>>11995283
>Do a collab with Hololive.
>>11995283
>Do a collab with Hololive.
** BLOCKS YOUR COLLAB **
>NOT ON MY WATCH, NIJIFELLOWS!

And, here is the thing
>she's right too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:33:39 No.11995531 Report

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>>11995485
I'm different anon. I govern the victors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:34:14 No.11995554 Report

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>>11995485
Too slow pops! Too late to erase your shame too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:34:50 No.11995574 Report

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>>11995433
Kuzuha needs to win at least one more time until the end of the month, this thread is becoming too peaceful without Kuzuhafags and Nijifags

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:36:19 No.11995632 Report

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>>11995574
COME HERE KING!
>YOU CAN WIN TODAY
Victory is just at hand, just kick it as hard as you can!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:37:05 No.11995659 Report

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>>11995397
Play Minecraft
Sing unarchived English karaoke
Collab with JP senpais who are well known in English community
Make a FOTM cover
More ads
Make a post on r****t

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:37:40 No.11995673 Report

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>>11995034
Hi Selen.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:38:40 No.11995707 Report

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>>11994162
>>11994592
Hey anons, where's Nakiri Ayame on this list? Or am i not seeing her?

She actually streamed once in Oct 2021 more than once in 2020 Oct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:41:10 No.11995775 Report

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>>11995433
Pretty "bad" day, most of these streams overlapped too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:42:31 No.11995823 Report

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>>11995574
These threads never had nijifags

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:45:00 No.11995901 Report

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>>11995707
I cut everybody without hours in Oct 2020 in the 1-25 range and Ayame's return was on the 26th

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:45:21 No.11995911 Report

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>>11995514
Occasional collab is fine though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:47:35 No.11995975 Report

Quoted By: >>11996148

>>11995034
Honestly, that's easy. Cut down some hours/streams. Do 5 streams a week with 2-3 hrs each and avoid overlapping with others especially during HoloEN events.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:48:08 No.11995999 Report

Quoted By: >>11996148 >>11996166 >>11996247

>>11995659
>Play Minecraft
They already did. Here are some examples:

Rosemi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnoHHqGz3L8
Selen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWT3RHaR-dQ
Elira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IssHIhJqEM0

The fact people don't know this says a lot more about the strength of the game in itself (ZERO) than about what they may have done there.
Minecraft strength is NOT the block game, but the interpersonal connections made within.

Quite literally "the friends we made along the way", but unironically

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:50:13 No.11996067 Report

Quoted By: >>11996183 >>11996211

>Kuzuha played his buff game.
>Pekora intentionally nerfed herself.
>still lost.
Holo is too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:51:11 No.11996106 Report

Quoted By: >>11996133 >>11996217 >>11996267

>>11995514
Based, but also fuck managment.
From a pure, cold, business perspective it's the correct move, as collabing with NijiEN is all risk and no reward for HoloEN. Seriously, what do they actually gain? A slightly better reputation among a group of seething collab beggars? This isn't a charity, they're not obligated to try and boost NijiEN in any way, shape or form.

I do wish a Pomu x Kiara collab would happen just for the potential kino though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:52:15 No.11996133 Report

Quoted By: >>11996216 >>11996267

>>11996106
that's why hololive has no soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:53:02 No.11996148 Report

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>>11995975
Yeah, they're taking the consistent streams meme too easily. It works because they're JP and their main timeslot is at night/evening jst. EN is spread far apart so there's really no primetime for ENs. Gura & Ina already developed viewers in their timeslots. Competing with them and hoping a few would join you if they don't stream on that day is pointless.

>>11995999
Yeah they aren't exactly strong on minecraft. They don't even have their own servers. EN was built upon the tears of Myth themselves and it built up a storyline.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:53:27 No.11996163 Report

Quoted By: >>12000021 >>12004560

>>11995911
>Occasional collab is fine though.
Sorry mate, only those worthy are allowed to collab with HoloEN

>HoloJP
>VShojo (minus Veibae)
>Pikamee
>Milky Queen
>Holostars
>Trash Taste
>Assorted hobos they find out in the streets

That kind of rules out NijiEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:53:33 No.11996166 Report

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>>11995999
>interpersonal connections
This needs a lot of time and team effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:54:03 No.11996183 Report

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>>11996067
Kuzuha playing valorant now to cry at his loss today

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:55:04 No.11996211 Report

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>>11996067
Pekora lost to Kuzuha...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:55:17 No.11996216 Report

Quoted By: >>11996346 >>11996461

>>11996133
If they had no soul, then why do people keep watching them? Checkmate, nijifags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:55:21 No.11996217 Report

Quoted By: >>11996274

>>11996106
>a slightly better reputation among a group of seething collab beggars
it would go the opposite way. Collab with one and then all the beggars will start demanding for one too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:56:07 No.11996247 Report

Quoted By: >>11996438

>>11995999
Yea.
IMO, if NijiJP did a server reset or a "New Server" as a way of resetting things and introducing all of the current biome and world gen updates, it could kickstart something, but I don't believe there's enough desire amongst all of NijiJp to do so. It's rough...I know Hololive has already done that before, as the current Holoserver isn't the same as the first one where Aqua had her Hololive resistance antics vs Sora.
It's hard, I don't envy NijiEn management, not one bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:56:59 No.11996267 Report

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>>11996106
>just for the potential kino
What the fuck does that even mean?
I sincerely fail to even start to imagine how having a collab partner from outside the company would improve Kiara's streams, solo or in company collab.

Not even dissing Kiara here, I can understand the value of a cross company collab between people that are already close (like Haachama and Hoshikawa) but Pomu and Kiara would pretty much be like Kiara and Nyanners
1) tick a box "collabed with"
2) never speak about or interact again

There is no upside and all downside

>>11996133
>that's why hololive has no soul
Can you really put that in numbers? What is the weight of a soul?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:57:15 No.11996274 Report

Quoted By: >>12017202

>>11996217
That's why Hololive's ecosystem for streamers works. They can collab with each other instead of relying on others. YT algo will always help them with new viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:58:25 No.11996313 Report

Quoted By: >>11996342

>>11995034
ok, here is an actual advice
Play Minecraft mod
Minecraft is a big buff but holo Minecraft is all vanilla, so if NijiEN can play the right mod, they will gain a lot of new fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:59:22 No.11996342 Report

Quoted By: >>11996388 >>11996440

>>11996313
Niji JP did. I don't know if Niji EN also play with mods or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 17:59:25 No.11996346 Report

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>>11996216
>people
holobronies have no souls as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:00:50 No.11996388 Report

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>>11996342
did nothing for them though. Mito was a 6k shitter with 2 of his friends. Fuwa and Ibrahim got 12k.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:02:35 No.11996438 Report

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>>11996247
>I know Hololive has already done that before, as the current Holoserver isn't the same as the first one where Aqua had her Hololive resistance antics vs Sora.
It was not the server reset that brought new life into the server.

It was a deliberate effort by Aqua, in a period all other girls were balls to the wall on Ark and Sora was dipping her toes on the ghost town that the Holo Server had become.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1qLRJUixaM

Here is a comment in that video
>I legit teared to that speech when I watched it live.
>I personally thought that most of their (both hololive and nijisanji) memorable moments of the happened in minecraft, it's a shame that it stopped being popular.

It is not impossible that this little speech and her effort to revive the server was what turned the tide for Hololive and, again, it was a deliberate effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:02:37 No.11996440 Report

Quoted By: >>11996542 >>11997072

>>11996342
that's why I used the word "right mod", a texture pack won't do shit.
If they play something like Sky block though, there is no way it won't be successful
MC Mod + roleplaying should be the way to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:03:31 No.11996461 Report

Quoted By: >>11996564 >>11996599

>>11996267
Nyanners is a fucking wreck.
Pomu and Kiara have been tweeting and DMing each other a ton since they first talked in June.
They’re also both huge idol fags that were in the wotagei scene in Japan.
Apparently Kiara is Pomu’s EN oshi too.
>>11996216
You know for as much as Nijifags like saying the Holofags will eat up whatever their talents fans put out, doesn’t that just make them more reliable?
As a sponsor/advertiser knowing that a fanbase is more likely to buy the shit we sell cause a talent shills it sounds like a good deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:06:09 No.11996542 Report

Quoted By: >>11996704

>>11996440
It's not the block game, mate. it is unironically a mix of real unplanned collabs and overarching crafted narratives.
See: "Hawaata: the movie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ce4WsDCQE&t=10s

With the right improvisational ability the streamers can craft something that not even a scriptwriter could and it is not about the block game.
It is not about the roleplay either, otherwise it would have succeeded on Ark too (but it didn't, at least for Hololive)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:06:59 No.11996564 Report

Quoted By: >>12004206

>>11996461
>Apparently Kiara is Pomu’s EN oshi too
thats how you know shes full of shit and trying way too hard for that collab to happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:08:33 No.11996599 Report

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>>11996461
>Pomu and Kiara have been tweeting and DMing each other a ton since they first talked in June.
>They’re also both huge idol fags that were in the wotagei scene in Japan.
>Apparently Kiara is Pomu’s EN oshi too.
There is nothing preventing them from interacting off stream. On stream tho, as I said, I really don't see what people are calling "kino interaction".

>Nyanners is a fucking wreck.
Calli collabbed with Ironmouse and it was cute as fuck. Ticked the "collabed with" check never to interact again.
If there is no real connection - like Haachama and Hoshikawa, Tamaki and half the industry, even Boran Nun and Towa which hit off very well through Apex - there is no upside in allowing a collab just because and it is 100% potential downsides if you are the top dog.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:11:34 No.11996674 Report

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Since Niji EN3 is being accepted here I think that this one is fine too...

Miori Celesta (Tsunderia) got blessed by Susan and her channel is performing very well this month. Her last stream peak at 310 viewers and she got a few red SC

Too bad that she still is too small to be tracked by Playboard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:12:42 No.11996704 Report

Quoted By: >>11996764 >>11996863

>>11996542
What are you talking about? There are many ways to be successful and I believe playing a good MC mod is one of them.
And when I say Roleplaying, it should be something on the same level as the Dream SMP. Not just some narratives streamers come up with while playing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:14:28 No.11996764 Report

Quoted By: >>11996927

>>11996704
>There are many ways to be successful and I believe playing a good MC mod is one of them.
>What are you talking about?
I'm disagreeing. VTubing in itself is already "roleplaying", adding one extra layer of roleplay over it won't paper over the initial lack of success if they're failing at doing it with their primary "persona"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:14:32 No.11996769 Report

Quoted By: >>11997009 >>11997288

>>11996674
I doubt it happens but it would be sweet irony for Rosemi to leave Tsunderia for NijiEn, only for Tsunderia to suddenly incline and beat her (doesn't necessarily have to include the rest of Niji En)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:14:59 No.11996777 Report

Quoted By: >>11997009 >>11998005

>>11996674
Reimu killer…
I wonder which one of the smaller agencies will start competing with NjiEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:17:24 No.11996863 Report

Quoted By: >>11996985

>>11996704
They aren't allowed to used mods (except for texture)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:18:56 No.11996924 Report

Quoted By: >>11997954

Why does nijifags keep saying HoloEN should Collab with NijiEN and what not when they also avoid Collabs with the little ones too like Prism, Tsunderia, Phase connect etc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:19:15 No.11996927 Report

Quoted By: >>11997474

>>11996764
roleplaying here means you create a basic story together before streaming and loosely follow it while streaming.
Anyway, I'm mainly talking about mods here, roleplaying is just another suggestion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:20:53 No.11996985 Report

Quoted By: >>11997108 >>11997169

>>11996863
why? they can't ask for permissions from the mod makers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:21:34 No.11997009 Report

Quoted By: >>11997954

>>11996769
>>11996777
>>11996674
has NijiEN actually collabed with any of the smaller EN agencies like Tsunderia, Prism, Phase, etc?
and no Vshojo doesnt apply as a "smaller en angency"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:23:08 No.11997055 Report

Quoted By:

do you think Sora's vtuber friends feel envy to see what she and her company has become?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:23:31 No.11997072 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996440
I know permissions for popular mods are an issue but if they just said, “boy we would love to play a mod like mod x” Holofans would make one for them within days. Minecraft modding isn’t terribly difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:25:00 No.11997108 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996985
playing mods usually gets you in a bad situation with the main game developers. Doesnt matter for indies, but corpos need their explicit perms to play the game at the first place, so you better go for their official dlcs instead of free mods

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:27:01 No.11997169 Report

Quoted By: >>11997225 >>11997356

>>11996985
No tech company (in this case Mojang) will give a license to modify the source code of a software to a group of youtubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:28:50 No.11997225 Report

Quoted By:

>>11997169 (me)
I forgot about an exception, AmongUs, they got a license to use the mod from both sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:30:38 No.11997288 Report

Quoted By: >>11997533

>>11996769
If omega wants to play some 5d chess
Let council collab with them might be enough push to overtake lower nijien

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:32:40 No.11997356 Report

Quoted By: >>11997420

>>11997169
If they had a red stone and command block god they could replicate 95% of most common mods. Command blocks let’s you do a lot of neat stuff and could be fan content. Aside from oga I don’t see an actual holo managing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:34:28 No.11997420 Report

Quoted By: >>11997567

>>11997356
Maybe Luna, she used to be a programmer.
Oga is a game dev so that’s no surprise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:36:27 No.11997474 Report

Quoted By: >>11997886

>>11996927
>roleplaying here means you create a basic story together before streaming and loosely follow it while streaming.
Yeah, like being a cute catgirl that enjoys onigiri and hangs out with a dog girl that lives in a bakery

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:38:21 No.11997533 Report

Quoted By:

>>11997288
Bae's roommate did a few collabs with Miori and is following her on Twitter. Mori also noticed and liked her cover of Red.

Omega, you can do this... It's easy...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:39:23 No.11997567 Report

Quoted By: >>11997674

>>11997420
>HTML
Anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:42:42 No.11997674 Report

Quoted By: >>11997715 >>11997730 >>11997776 >>11997831

>>11997567
Regardless creating and debugging a mod like that would be a huge time sink. Sportsfes and festival show it can be a good investment: Minecraft Hololive:Battle Royal, Hunger Games, or even just Death Battle Arena would get good numbers. But there are probably literally hundreds of block autists who would it completely for free for their oshis

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:44:05 No.11997715 Report

Quoted By:

>>11997674
Even better: user submission contest with review streams and small reward. Then they are free for all Holos to use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:44:32 No.11997730 Report

Quoted By:

>>11997674
Wasn't the MinecraftJP event something like that? I mean, the "playing something else, but on Minecraft" type of competition mod?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:46:33 No.11997776 Report

Quoted By: >>11997988

>>11997674
>here are probably literally hundreds of block autists who would it completely for free
you still fail to understand what makes Holo minecraft special

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:48:06 No.11997831 Report

Quoted By:

>>11997674
The problem isn't get authorization from the mod developer, that is very easy. They need a license from the game developer, Mojang, in order to legally modify the source code and that will never happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:50:24 No.11997886 Report

Quoted By: >>11997969

>>11997474
NijiEN girls don't take the whole character thing seriously. Their characters are like the characters that Doc or Xqc play.
And they have no story to follow anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:51:28 No.11997917 Report

Quoted By:

actual Nijifans are not this delusional, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:52:42 No.11997954 Report

Quoted By: >>11999403

>>11996924
>>11997009
Literally one this week. They have also collabed with a ton of indies and other corpos like Wactor and Re:Act. Pomu and especially Millie have also promoted the other EN corpos a ton on stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:53:09 No.11997969 Report

Quoted By:

>>11997886
They had the whole rival thing that management set up for them (wave 1/2) and they kinda just ditched it the moment they debut from what I recall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:53:51 No.11997988 Report

Quoted By: >>11998465

>>11997776
I gave up explaining that
>IT’S NOT THE FUCKING BLOCK GAME

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:54:24 No.11998003 Report

Quoted By: >>11998119 >>12005359

>>11994823
Why would Yagoo pump out another gen if there isn't a demand for it? JP feels like they have the correct amount of people in it already. Maybe one more gen for EN to further improve their dynamics. I'm pretty sure Cover doesn't want to oversaturate their own market like Niji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:54:28 No.11998005 Report

Quoted By: >>11998176

>>11996777
Shouldn't be long before we get a day where Shiki from Prism passes at least 1 NijiEN in CCV. Luto already passes most EN in Superchats.
Nene from Kawaii's been growing steadily too.
Admittedly, other than the Miori' September short i haven't seen anything from Tsunderia, but her VOD views are really good for this level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:58:06 No.11998119 Report

Quoted By: >>11998443

>>11998003
theres some demand for nightowls though, since EN doesnt EU prime very often. Or just pick some niches like they did with fauna. They dont need to be an all-stars

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 18:59:41 No.11998176 Report

Quoted By: >>11998264

>>11998005
you might be right, Shiki is already at 3 digits for avg ccv

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:02:11 No.11998248 Report

Quoted By: >>11998370 >>11998426 >>11998487

>>11995433
Wow, Miko really swung in at the last minute and stole the day from Kuzuha again, lol. Fear it, run from it.........Migo arrives all the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:02:40 No.11998264 Report

Quoted By:

>>11998176
Shiki pulls 350+ viewers for special streams already, dropped a bit lately but should do good numbers for the Halloween special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:05:23 No.11998370 Report

Quoted By: >>11998487

>>11998248
When peko can't do it, migo will come to save the day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:07:03 No.11998426 Report

Quoted By: >>12017567

>>11998248
An anon pointed it out in the last thread.
Miko was just behind Kuzuha's peak when Gura Shion ginished streaming and some people went to her collab with Polka.

On the other hand, for Kuzuha, it doesn't matter who else in Nijisanji is streaming, his numbers aren't affected. There's no one else to give him a boost and prop him up to 1st place. He gets way more from tourists, from outside collabs and events.

King has no one to back him up in his company... except Kanae, but not by much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:07:43 No.11998443 Report

Quoted By: >>11998518

>>11998119
Then sure, one more EN gen that's focused on Europe to fill that niche. But I can't see Yagoo releasing JP6 until there's a demand for it as much as I want Lamy to be a proper JP senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:08:29 No.11998465 Report

Quoted By: >>11999213

>>11997988
Mods or custom maps are just new ways to have collabs in Minecraft, which are obvious ways to get good numbers while being a change of pace. Do you think that if they did Hunger Games it wouldn’t get novelty numbers and lots of clips?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:09:09 No.11998487 Report

Quoted By: >>11998660

>>11998248
>>11998370
that was migo's second score. Now get peko that #1 on sportfes day and pekomiko christmas collab is granted to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:10:06 No.11998518 Report

Quoted By: >>11998679 >>11998693

>>11998443
If they want to expand to ES which I think it would be stupid not to the time to lay the ground work is with a Bilingual talent in one of the next gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:11:59 No.11998583 Report

Quoted By: >>11998896

Checking Tenma’s twitch
10/20 847 viewer average
10/22 472 viewer average
10/24 305 viewer average
https://twitchtracker.com/tenmamaemi/streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:13:27 No.11998626 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996674
That is quite an incline and she deserves it. The funny thing is that some of that is probably from people finding out about Bae's past vtuber life and making the connection. Take that added exposure with the hard work she has been doing pumping out tons of songs and you have an incline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:14:52 No.11998660 Report

Quoted By: >>11998724

>>11998487
I imagine number 1 on sportsfes day would go to Miko herself since she will probably be doing the broadcast stream with Mio again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:15:37 No.11998679 Report

Quoted By: >>11998882

>>11998518
Bilingual talents always end up wanting to stream in EN anyway for those sweet sweet dólares estadounidenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:16:05 No.11998693 Report

Quoted By: >>12009361

>>11998518
Spanish, French, British, German(maybe Eastern Europe since Kiara already speaks German), and Nordic should cover the entirety of European demographics.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:16:59 No.11998724 Report

Quoted By:

>>11998660
well then christmas collab is canceled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:22:04 No.11998882 Report

Quoted By:

>>11998679
Oh no doubt. It’s not like Korone streams in English much. She just needs to throw them a bone and have some dedicated streams once a month. Botan is the RU vtuber because of a three stripes and FPS. The bilingual pioneer wouldn’t get a huge ES fanbases, but it would prime the pump for the ES branch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:22:35 No.11998896 Report

Quoted By: >>11999107 >>11999683

>>11998583
Twitch gets way higher numbers for EN chuubas already, even outside of Vshoujo.
There are several indies there (many artists) already doing similar, or better than NijiEN. I think anon was talking about YT startups.
https://twitchtracker.com/anny
https://twitchtracker.com/girl_dm_
https://twitchtracker.com/yoclesh
https://twitchtracker.com/trickywi
https://twitchtracker.com/dyarikku

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:29:35 No.11999107 Report

Quoted By: >>11999734

>>11998896
how many of those are real vtubers and not converts though?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:33:16 No.11999213 Report

Quoted By: >>12017687

>>11998465
>Do you think that if they did Hunger Games it wouldn’t get novelty numbers and lots of clips?
It would, a lot like Hardcore Minecraft, and for about the same span of time.
Then it’s back to square one.

Here is something funny that many forgot (or where not around for it):
>It wasn’t always Minecraft
For a period of time the more or less sane type of interaction the girls have now on Minecraft used to happen on
>Animal Crossing
More than that: by virtue of the centralized servers of the game it even allowed for cross company collabs (like the one below) and fan participation
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pa5OmvCQ5Sg

It’s NOT the block game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:39:47 No.11999403 Report

Quoted By: >>11999800

>>11997954
Wow, another nepotism collab. If I'm not mistaken, one of them belongs to Domo's groupie, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:48:32 No.11999683 Report

Quoted By:

>>11998896
Even NijiEN gets way higher viewership on twitch everytime they have gone there. YT CCV is highly depressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:50:16 No.11999734 Report

Quoted By:

>>11999107
all those listed.
At least the current Twitch users were created for the vtuber and pretty much all of them only got an audience after their debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:52:34 No.11999800 Report

Quoted By:

>>11999403
None of those are a part of Domo's group, Shoto is Hanamori, Boa is in the Vshojo outer circle, and Shiki is Prism. Finana has already collabed with the first two before anyways, Shiki is the point of interest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 19:59:45 No.12000021 Report

Quoted By: >>12000137 >>12014225

>>11996163
I really really want a HoloEN x NijiJP collab just for the salt. It'd be so damn funny if only NijiEN was in the cuckshed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:03:11 No.12000137 Report

Quoted By: >>12000238 >>12000522

>>12000021
That would just prove how afraid HoloEN management is of NijiEN tho

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:06:27 No.12000238 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000137
>That would just prove how afraid HoloEN management is of NijiEN tho
Imagine believing this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:08:40 No.12000293 Report

Quoted By: >>12000599

NijiEN doesn't want to lose Genshin and Honkai permissions please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:09:21 No.12000310 Report

Quoted By: >>12000439 >>12000474

Is the TTRPG on Gura's channels? In theory should be decent numbers but collabs are weird on her channel. A large chunk of her fanbase just doesn't seem into them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:13:07 No.12000439 Report

Quoted By: >>12000488 >>12000593

>>12000310
It's not going to get huge numbers now regardless of the channel, the hype for the ttrpg collabs is long gone and you need to follow the story of all previous episodes to know what's going on, that alone will filter a lot of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:14:16 No.12000474 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000310
regardless of the channel it wont get much more than 10k live, it is way too many episodes in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:14:43 No.12000488 Report

Quoted By: >>12000639

>>12000439
Eh if it pulls 10-15k for part 6 of a Hunter: the Vigil stream it would be infinitely more popular than any other similar stream. I mean that literally, I literally can not find any other Hunter: the Vigils streams anywhere. Most WoD streams on Twitch are like 100-200 ccv tops

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:15:23 No.12000521 Report

Quoted By:

15 Million Views for Can You Do the Hololive? (Beyond The Stage Version)

Very good number

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:15:24 No.12000522 Report

Quoted By: >>12002794

>>12000137
Afraid of a yab maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:17:11 No.12000593 Report

Quoted By: >>12000629 >>12000639

>>12000439
So, kinda perfect for Gura holding the possible final episode (? is it the finals)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:17:28 No.12000599 Report

Quoted By: >>12000664 >>12000706 >>12000793 >>12000993 >>12012729

>>12000293
In all seriousness, why are people so sure that it was HoloEN management / Omegatranny who turned the collab down, and not this >>12000293? NijiJP have their foot on solid ground so they might not give a damn if they lose Chink games' permissions or if Chinks start harassing them, but NijiEN, as new as they are, might not want to take that much risk in exchange for a Pomu / Kiara collab.
I just find it rather weird to believe that HoloEN management, who greenlight'd collabs with males and with VShojo (who is way bigger than NijiEN, mind you), would have any particular issue with a NijiEN x Holo collab (well, maybe after Nina's case, but still...)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:18:06 No.12000629 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000593
No but Mori implied it was sort of the midseason climax, and that they might make roster changes afterwards. Sort of like a split cour season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:18:37 No.12000639 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000488
Well sure i don't doubt it's going to be a very popular stream for the category, but for a Gura collab (if it's even on her channel) i don't think it will get great numbers.
>>12000593
I think there are at least 2 more episodes. It would make sense if they did the next one on Gura's channel and the last one on Mori's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:19:14 No.12000664 Report

Quoted By: >>12000866

>>12000599
Eh? Niji talents collab with HoloJP, hell they appeared on stage in concert with them within the week! If the Chinks were going to get mad about collabs EN isn't going to be the tipping point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:20:09 No.12000689 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000000

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:20:32 No.12000706 Report

Quoted By: >>12000866

>>12000599
HoloEN management has a track record for rejecting outside collabs.>>12000599

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:23:07 No.12000793 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000599
Because HoloEN management has a history of heavily regulating collabs, while NijiEN management does not.
And it's not because of chink permissions. NijiJP still heavily plays Genshin, and they still have collabs with HoloJP and even HoloID with no issue. Meanwhile, only one NijiEN (Finana) really plays Genshin, and it's only once a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:25:05 No.12000866 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000664
I said it in my post, though. NijiJP might be strong enough to ignore the Chinks, but NijiEN sure isn't
>>12000706
You probably misquoted since you quoted me twice - which harmless collab have they rejected, though? Among their rejected collabs, I can only recall Coco's and Melody's, both with understandable / justifiable reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:28:32 No.12000993 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000599
I'm willing to take it further... mostly because I'm out of the loop, since all i saw was that Kiara stream.
Are we sure it was a Kiara-Pomu collab that was rejected? Did they say on Twitter? could it have been Veybey instead or something stupid like a Kson request

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:39:00 No.12001434 Report

Quoted By: >>12001606 >>12001609

I'm enjoying Selene's members stream but here's some numbers too just to link it to the thread.
350 current live viewers visible
265 likes, 30 minutes in.
Estimative way higher member count for this month but even at base, good enough member count to replace your day job in most cities, if they didn't split with Nijisanji. The EN girls are doing ok on that front too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:42:50 No.12001606 Report

Quoted By: >>12001700

>>12001434
>The EN girls
You surely mean Selen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:42:53 No.12001609 Report

Quoted By: >>12001766 >>12002084

>>12001434
350 members @ ~$5/member is $1650/month, or around 20K/year before cuts. Living in a 1st world city for that much is possible, but that's most definitely a poorfag existence. Cities are expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:44:50 No.12001700 Report

Quoted By: >>12001813

>>12001606
Selen, Pomu, and (at least this month) Elira.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:46:28 No.12001766 Report

Quoted By:

>>12001609
Gotta remove 30% because YouTube cut and whatever Nijisanji pockets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:47:51 No.12001813 Report

Quoted By:

>>12001700
Yeah, that seems about right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:50:39 No.12001913 Report

Quoted By: >>12002134 >>12002859 >>12003149 >>12003857

Elira
> 28 emotes / at least 800 members
Selen
> 23 / 400 members
Pomu
> 23 / 400 members
Rosemi
> 18 / 200 members
Finana
> 18 / 200 members
Petra
> 15 / 125 members

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:51:23 No.12001938 Report

Quoted By: >>12002122 >>12002859

So what is the combination power ranking of NijiEN right now? (sub, views, ccv, sc..)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:55:18 No.12002084 Report

Quoted By:

>>12001609
350 being the minimum of course,
there's no way all 100% of members would ever be in a stream at the same time.
More reasonably 500 minimum, probably way more since we've seen less than 30% member stream participation in past analysis of HoloEN compared to poll participation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:56:19 No.12002122 Report

Quoted By:

>>12001938
In relation to what?
Have we ever done this for other groups before as an example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 20:56:33 No.12002134 Report

Quoted By: >>12002397 >>12002705

>>12001913
So Finana with a debut buff but without say a I have to have surgery pity buff, has made around $5000 in memberships and $46,000 in SC. So around $10K a month. Assuming a 35% take home that's about equal to an annual income of $34,000. That's like McDonald's assistant manager level income, with more Waves coming to possibly eat away at her fanbase. Obviously Pomu, Elira are in better shape but that's rough man. With an uncertain future it makes sense why they haven't all quit their jobs yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:03:16 No.12002397 Report

Quoted By: >>12002529

>>12002134
There's still ad revenue, but that won't be a big chunk, they're not Noel with 10 1 million+ views 2 hour streams.
The biggest income will probably be, as per usual, the voice packs.
Cheap to make and booth only takes 4%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:06:38 No.12002529 Report

Quoted By: >>12002778

>>12002397
Doesn't Nijisanji take a pretty big chunk from voice packs and talents mostly rely on the Cheer option (that isn't available to EN)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:08:35 No.12002600 Report

Quoted By:

Just for a change of pace from these depressing NijiEn numbers, found this Korean language clip channel that has multiple 500K+ clips including Gura's Galaxy which is at 650K without even having an English title. This is the sort of thing Holo/Niji needs before they debut a foreign branch.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2fvhDgem6GHbeUgSog-LZg/featured

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:11:21 No.12002705 Report

Quoted By: >>12002877 >>12003397

>>12002134
why the fuck do they have so few members and so many scs in relation to it? They should be pushing for the opposite since being a member gets you more attached than just superchatting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:13:05 No.12002778 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002529
Exact number is unknown, estimated it's still 50-50.
We don't even know how their monthly salary is calculated, if they were smart, the sales would be considered a transaction and only pay the 10% in income tax instead of adding it to their salary and paying ~30% in taxes.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:13:31 No.12002794 Report

Quoted By: >>12002979

>>12000522
bitch even followed Sykkuno, she's too easy. while Gura ghosted him on sns

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:14:43 No.12002859 Report

Quoted By: >>12002978 >>12006254

>>12001913
A couple of days after Selen opened memberships, she tweeted out how many emote slots she had to fill, equated to 2k members iirc.
Elira, I think people are estimating 2k.
Pomu had 1.6k members during the first hour or so of her membership opening stream, with many more joining after.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they were 2.5k-3k now.

The others are probably around 1k-1.5k.

>>12001938
It's between Elira, Selen, and Pomu
Elira has the most subs, good views, and good CCV, but normally doesn't get the highest SC (this month was an exception due to both her birthday and hitting 200k).
Selen has the best CCV, best views, and good superchat, but doesn't have the highest subs (yet).
Pomu gets great SC month after month, and her CCV is decent, despite her having the lowest subs and views of the three.

The others (including Wave 3) aren't worth discussing (even Finana, who has more subs than Selen and Pomu, is below average in every other metric). There's a powergap between Elira/Selen/Pomu and the rest of NijiEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:15:06 No.12002877 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002705
because sc numbers are public while memberships are not (remember they even take down sites who try to numberfag their memberships). Gotta have something to show to the board of directors, and hide under the rug everything else

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:17:44 No.12002975 Report

Quoted By: >>12003215 >>12003282 >>12003383

I don't know about "combination power ranking" but here is the median of peaks for Nijisanji EN
>pic related

It is sorted by their current month medians so it clearly shows
>MIllie as the breakout star of Wave 3
>Petra inclining
>The rest of Wave 3 at or below 1k
>Selen dominating the whole branch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:17:48 No.12002978 Report

Quoted By: >>12003152

>>12002859
>Pomu had 1.6k members during the first hour or so of her membership opening stream
Careful reading too much into this. 90% of Patreon supporters drop off after 3 months. Can't say for certain if memberships are the same but all these creator support memberships have similar retention fractions. You need to constantly have new members just to keep up with the churn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:17:51 No.12002979 Report

Quoted By: >>12003024

>>12002794
>Bloop facemask
He really likes Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:18:56 No.12003024 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002979
Of all the ecelebs I get the feeling he genuinely enjoys her content and is a fan. I mean she's charming as hell it's really not that surprising.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:22:23 No.12003149 Report

Quoted By: >>12003234

>>12001913
Do you have the source for emotes/ members ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:22:29 No.12003152 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002978
I think I saw someone did a chart for membership estimation count and it fluctuates month by month.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:24:22 No.12003215 Report

Quoted By: >>12003282 >>12003383 >>12003402

>>12002975
Now, for the "mean average" of peaks, given that there is no "debut" stream this month, three of the girls rank lower than the Wave 3 ones, with Petra consistent low (but not too low) streams taking last place.

This situation will clearly change come November with Wave 3 likely reaching the four last places, maybe 3 with Millie escaping it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:24:48 No.12003234 Report

Quoted By:

>>12003149
Check how many emotes are on their membership joining page, then compare that number to https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7544492?hl=en#zippy=%2Cupload-custom-emoji%2Cnumber-of-custom-emoji-you-can-upload
This is the bare-minimum members that they have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:26:00 No.12003282 Report

Quoted By: >>12003627

>>12002975
>>12003215
These two charts show how high Selen towers over her mates.
Nijisanji could easily make a cross branch "Nijisanji World Gamers", promote Bora Nun and Selen to this "main" branch and relegate the rest of EN and KR to IN "adopted token third worlder" status

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:29:07 No.12003383 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002975
>>12003215
Also these show that there is
>Selen, Elira, Pomu and Millie
and then there is the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:29:25 No.12003397 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002705
Those are minimum estimates, remember that Pomu got over 1600 members just in her membership opening stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:29:31 No.12003402 Report

Quoted By: >>12003569

>>12003215
Someone needs to add Kuzeha, Pekora, and Gura to this so we can understand the overall scale. And for laffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:31:14 No.12003459 Report

Quoted By:

It's been 2 months and Roberu still has more subs than a Holo EN member.

How do we stop him?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:34:35 No.12003569 Report

Quoted By: >>12003850 >>12003891

>>12003402
>Someone needs to add Kuzeha, Pekora, and Gura to this so we can understand the overall scale. And for laffs
Nah, that's unnecessary flexing and would convey no information.

I'll soon be updating this chart
>pic related
to add NijiEN and Holostars soon tho.

And then splitting it in
>NijiJP, HoloJP, HoloEN
and
>NijiEN, HoloID, Holostars

because these are the leagues being played right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:35:03 No.12003590 Report

Quoted By:

>>11994268
But Kuzuha can't be a queen unless you're telling me he's a girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:36:04 No.12003627 Report

Quoted By:

>>12003282
She made herself a corner of the market that no other EN vtuber was covering and even expanded it.

On the other hand, this shows how little of the market share was left for the new 4. I'd more be willing to consider this a debut debuff for.

>Nijisanji could easily make a cross branch "Nijisanji World Gamers"
Eh, they can make their own "Purple woman gamers" unit. Or with Hada, etc. They just need a snappy name and some promotion so people can latch on to a storyline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:42:15 No.12003850 Report

Quoted By: >>12004512 >>12006390 >>12006638

>>12003569
As of Now

1. HoloJP
2. HoloMyth
3. HoloCouncil
4. IRyS
5. Nijisanji Males
6. Nijisanji Women
7. HoloID

The fact that Nijisanji Women are scrapping it up with HoloID and have even lost to them as recently as August 2021 shows how fast Nijisanji fans are rejecting female streamers. Its becoming quite the sausage fest over at AnyColor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:42:34 No.12003857 Report

Quoted By: >>12004297

>>12001913
Not necessarily for example
Pekora
>27 / 700 members
Botan
>54 / talk to the company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:43:16 No.12003891 Report

Quoted By: >>12006638

>>12003569
It never fails to baffle me how Holo ID were actually ahead of the female branch of Nijisanji on a non-debut month. If that doesn't tell you that something's wrong than nothing will.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:47:28 No.12004046 Report

Quoted By:

King just barely dodged graduation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:52:37 No.12004206 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996564
Just like how Kiara is Nyanner's favorite HoloEN but doesn't know she says "Auf Weidersehen" to close her streams rumao rumao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:54:57 No.12004297 Report

Quoted By:

>>12003857
>at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 21:58:13 No.12004419 Report

Quoted By: >>12004549 >>12004606 >>12005080 >>12018339

is Ui the most successful holo parent? without Subaru, she wouldn't have entered the vtubing scene or inclined the same amount.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:00:49 No.12004512 Report

Quoted By: >>12004929

>>12003850
I don't think it's fair to solo Irys like that. You might as well solo Azki. I get it but still. It's amazing that she's so high up there considering she is her own whole damn unit. I guess all those MCs and Karaokes keeps her numbers slightly above the fray

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:01:46 No.12004549 Report

Quoted By: >>12004731

>>12004419
As a streamer yes and I don't think it's particularly close. Ayamy, Nabi have done well but they are nowhere near her level. As an artist I'd say many mamas and papas are considered quite a bit more successful professionally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:02:03 No.12004560 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996163
i must have missed it, what's this obsession with omega these days, with even art?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:03:08 No.12004606 Report

Quoted By: >>12004731

>>12004419
I think I will include Tamaki if she counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:05:48 No.12004731 Report

Quoted By:

>>12004549
>As an artist I'd say many mamas and papas are considered quite a bit more successful professionally.
how popular was Ui before Cover contracted her to draw Subaru anyways?
>>12004606
not a holo parent but Tamaki is definitely very successful in her own right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:08:41 No.12004872 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996674
it would be hilarious if tsunderia inclined to where they could compete, or even surpass rosemi's viewer regular numbers all due to Bae's past bringing attention to smaller corpos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:10:02 No.12004929 Report

Quoted By:

>>12004512
>I don't think it's fair to solo Irys like that
Once upon a time she was compared to whole nijiEN branch, so it's fair to have her as solo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:13:20 No.12005080 Report

Quoted By: >>12005899

>>12004419
Her most viewed clip is actually with Kenmochi.

You can't just say Subaru when her entourage is stacked with powerhouses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:14:03 No.12005101 Report

Quoted By:

>>11996674
geez, hololive so dominates the EN viewer space that even related smaller corpos get boosts if a former talent makes it into Hololive. Crazy trickle down effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:19:35 No.12005359 Report

Quoted By: >>12005558 >>12005704

>>11998003
I think JP could get away with another half gen like gamers for JP6.

As for EN, 1 more full gen would be perfect to pad things out as things stand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:23:57 No.12005558 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005359
maybe like a 3 people gen that fills the void that Coco and Aloe left behind.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:26:53 No.12005670 Report

Quoted By: >>12005957 >>12005982 >>12006173 >>12006184 >>12006496 >>12006802 >>12007063 >>12007644 >>12016320

* HERE IT COMES *
The much awaited all unified chart, based on the Nip ChartBro "mean average of peaks" chart.

This one contains
>HoloJP
>HoloEN
>HoloID
>HoloStars
>NijiJP
>NijiEN
There is no point in adding NijiKR and NijiID, just assume it would be barely visible below the stars.

Notica that this is preliminary data for the month of October and I will replace NijiJP and HoloJP data with whatever result nipChartBro (God bless his nip soul) gets from his calculation.
I try to use the same methodology but I don't know where he is sourcing the data so there may be a very small difference (which is uniform across the companies so none benefit anyway).

Anyway, there is no surprise here, maybe except for two
1) HoloID greatly outranks NijiEN
2) HoloID and NijiJP seems to be converging

Other conclusions from this:
1) NijiEN average of peaks in October was greatly inflated by the debuts and will likely fall in November, assuming they won't debut another wave
2) NijiJP recline from August to October mirrors 2020, with an incline expected in November (if things go like 2020)
3) HoloEN, with the addition of Irys and the Council, is converging to 10k
4) HoloJP, without the Coco buff and with some of their hitters in the dry dock, is still staying ahead of 12k

There is still a full week in October tho, things can change with enough outliers.
>COMMENTS?

If there is anything you want added just drop a reply and I'll take a look when it is convenient

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:27:43 No.12005704 Report

Quoted By: >>12019671

>>12005359
HoloLive TW will eventually come out
And when it does I think HololiveEN is going to lose a pretty decent amount of viewers the same way Korone did with HoloEN.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:33:02 No.12005899 Report

Quoted By: >>12006020

>>12005080
>Her most viewed clip is actually with Kenmochi.
The most viewed video on her channel is the song she mage with Subaru and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbYReCtSBbk
and the most CCV she got on record is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEz15wKW6Bg
the "matching outfit" reveal stream she made and collabed with Subaru to a 46k audience

It is preposterous to even imply the bulk of her audience doesnt come from either Subaru or even Maimoto.
I don't know what clip you mean but I can assume he-Ayame is responsible for whatever big number it got

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:34:33 No.12005957 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005670
>the early December algorithm change
it's not fair bros, give back our numbers Susan!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:35:09 No.12005982 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005670
HoloEN might get a boost on that Holloween Collab they'll do on the weekends.
I also want to see Pekora and Kuzuha only just to see how much the others are dragging them down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:36:00 No.12006020 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005899
>I don't know what clip you mean but I can assume he-Ayame is responsible for whatever big number it got
it's probably the one where Ui lost to him in a tetri match and he forced Ui to be a loli

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:39:45 No.12006173 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005670
Jesus, Holostars is basically a straight line with little fluctuation. Indicates a small, but very loyal, fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:40:07 No.12006184 Report

Quoted By: >>12006296

>>12005670
Ouch, NijiEN actually went (slightly) down in a debut month.
That NijiJP trend is pretty worrying too. Seems like they really heavily rely on tournaments to boost their average.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:41:44 No.12006254 Report

Quoted By:

>>12002859
Do the Niji girls have any member only polls that can be used to estimate their members? Using Kronii as an example, she had 8.3k votes on a member poll last week and people are estimating 10k+ members for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:43:03 No.12006296 Report

Quoted By: >>12006455

>>12006184
The Nijisanji one is a bit misleading. Nijisanji has dozens of 2 view shitters that have trouble hitting 3 digits. Those members are ultimately meaningless when you are talking about the overall health of the organization. The bottom tier of Hololive, on the other hand, is still easily capable of hitting 10k given the right circumstances (Roboco, Mel, etc.).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:45:23 No.12006390 Report

Quoted By:

>>12003850
>5. Nijisanji Males
>6. Nijisanji Women
This only applies to their JP branch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:47:05 No.12006455 Report

Quoted By: >>12006683 >>12006759 >>12007289

>>12006296
you'll only ever see those two even approaching 10k when playing minecraft

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:47:38 No.12006496 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005670
It's still crazy to me how quickly HoloEN "declined" after the honeymoon phase was over to most people. I mean they haven't really declined since there's still tons of viewers and support, but still.
Also depressing how Holostars just can't seem to really catch on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:50:27 No.12006638 Report

Quoted By: >>12006882

>>12003850
I love how "nijisanji women" ignores Mito, Ange, Lize, and many other female that go above 10k or almost at it.
>>12003891
There's no such thing as "female branch" in nijisanji. Male and female are literally in the same agency, to the point where some of them are genmates. Stop being a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:51:20 No.12006683 Report

Quoted By:

>>12006455
Yeah, that is why I said given the right circumstances. They can do it however. You will never see Hajime, Ichigo, or Emma August hit those numbers aside from once in a lifetime super special events like a 3D debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:52:48 No.12006759 Report

Quoted By: >>12007041

>>12006455
Not exactly just MC. Milestones, 3D events, birthdays, collabs with only 1 POV and outfit reveals gets a push lead. Mel for one gets the occasional bump because of the collabs she organizes on her channel. Roboco has her UNO. Choco and Luna gets carried by Subaru and Botan. Although Luna is getting more traction because of her EU friendly streams. Only Aki is the real person that gets the buff through MC because she doesn't have anything going on her channel besides that outfit reveal she did. It's a good thing that many top holos do collab with their low tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:53:37 No.12006802 Report

Quoted By: >>12006910 >>12008437 >>12015130

>>12005670
Hey Chartbro. Is there anyway you can do the top 31 NijiJP chuubas and put them against HoloJP? I'm interested to see how the top 31 Nijis would perform against HoloJP's 31 chuubas if you cut off the rest of the dead weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:55:24 No.12006882 Report

Quoted By: >>12007084 >>12007188

>>12006638
Cope harder. Mito is reclining fast and fell below 10k for the month. Nijisanji fans are rejecting female streamers and only want to watch the males. Manjisanji! All the Nijisanji females should stage a walk out of the company and apply to Hololive where girls are appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:55:58 No.12006910 Report

Quoted By: >>12006960 >>12007074

>>12006802
That would be bad because Holos also have low performers. You will need to cut them off as well. It's more fair to just use the top 20 for each group. You can do the same for NijiEN and HoloEN. Just use their Top5 instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:57:11 No.12006960 Report

Quoted By: >>12007060

>>12006910
On the other hand the low performers in HoloJP would very much fit into the mid-tier of Nijisanji and some of them might even fit into the top 31 of Nijisanji (like Luna for example).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:57:42 No.12006984 Report

Quoted By: >>12007034 >>12007163

>>11995034
>Expanding Lazulight and/or the rest of Obsydias core audience to at least 2k
3D and new outfits ASAP
>Raising Ethyria's average viewership to 2k
Allow them to speak their native tongue. They shouldnt have to ask permission for it. How in the fuck management doesn't allow he Russian and Hispanic to do occasional streams in the native tongue, especially when recruitment hired them because of those features, are beyond me. Management and recruitment need to be on the same page

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:58:35 No.12007034 Report

Quoted By: >>12007163 >>12007698

>>12006984
Well if they want to speak Russion or Spanish maybe they shouldn't have applied for Nijisanji ENGLISH. That is an incredibly stupid idea on your part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:58:46 No.12007041 Report

Quoted By:

>>12006759
Hell just look at Mel's 3D birthday stream coming up.
Marine and Pekora being two heavy hitters as guests on her stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:59:10 No.12007060 Report

Quoted By: >>12007260

>>12006960
I'm referring to people like Matsuri, Roboco and Choco that gets 2k consistently

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:59:12 No.12007063 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005670
October isn't over yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:59:23 No.12007074 Report

Quoted By: >>12007249

>>12006910
besides marine and pekora, the top 5 probably varies too much. But youll run into the same problem with the tail end of top 20

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 22:59:33 No.12007084 Report

Quoted By:

>>12006882
>apply to Hololive
Please no, my hands are full already

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:01:09 No.12007163 Report

Quoted By:

>>12006984
>>12007034
Nina effed that opportunity. She's a fucking sperg. NijiStaff watches their streams constantly in fear they say something really really stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:01:33 No.12007188 Report

Quoted By:

>>12006882
Ah ok, so you are a retard. Good to see that I shouldn't lose my time with a dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:02:56 No.12007249 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007074
It won't be as bad since their top20 would mainly be midtier at this point. I don't know about NijiJP though because the dip between Top-Mid-Low for them is immense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:03:18 No.12007260 Report

Quoted By: >>12007356

>>12007060
2k is still pretty damn good though. That would be equal to a mid-tier Niji I think.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:04:05 No.12007289 Report

Quoted By: >>12007427 >>12007491

>>12006455
>you'll only ever see those two even approaching 10k when playing minecraft
That's why tourists should STFU and lurk for a couple of years before running their mouths.
You didn't even look at the numbers, if you had
>pic related
you would see the magnitude of the retardation you just spouted

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:05:19 No.12007356 Report

Quoted By: >>12007612

>>12007260
I guess? You also have to remove Ayame and Touya if you want it to be really fair. I'm just saying there should be set rules so that the numbers would actually reflect the reality and not just some cope that tribalist would use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:06:52 No.12007427 Report

Quoted By: >>12011479

>>12007289
Roboco, who Hololive threads poke fun at for her low views, would be a powerhouse in Nijisanji, lol. The absolute state of AnyColor.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:08:17 No.12007491 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007289
based botfister

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:09:51 No.12007562 Report

Quoted By: >>12007667 >>12007693 >>12007711 >>12007753 >>12007865 >>12007962

Whys are all the front runners in the indie scene inclining while Corpos like Hololive and NijiEN reclining?
Is the English audience maturing to the point where they don't need companies to curate talent?
Or is Hololive's walled garden and similarly NijiEN causing people to grow bored?

Also let me know if I'm missing any of the bigger indies. I'll add them to the list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:11:00 No.12007612 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007356
I say keep them both since they should more or less cancel each other out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:11:36 No.12007644 Report

Quoted By: >>12007839

>>12005670
jesus that holoEN decline. Why no vshojo, holofag? Afraid of them doing better?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:12:06 No.12007667 Report

Quoted By: >>12007753

>>12007562
Old list, Added some more indies

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:12:39 No.12007693 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007562
anonchama, two of those are actually reclining

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:12:46 No.12007698 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007034
>Well if they want to speak Russion or Spanish maybe they shouldn't have applied for Nijisanji ENGLISH.
They didn't hire themselves. Someone in recruitment though it was a good idea.
Management are doing one thing are blocking native language streams. Do they even do that for ID?
As for recruitment, one of he thing's they ask for on their applications are, "What languages do you speak?" They don't simply leave it at English and Japanese proficiency
Then you have the their Twitter team, they have NijiEN under NijiWorld. While it is true, why not just make a separate Nijisanji English account.

The staff are not on the same page.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:13:09 No.12007711 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007562
??? These numbers are pretty much low tier holo on a regular day. This is what you think is an incline? Hundreds? For reference, a low tier holo will be considered to be in an incline if they maintain 30% above average CCV consistently. You just think this looks like an incline because their number are so low to begin with. Go back once they are hitting 5k every stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:14:15 No.12007753 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007562
>>12007667
When you are 2view shitters like these indies even a 100 viewer incline seems HUGE. Try again Nijikek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:15:04 No.12007795 Report

Quoted By:

>12007644
oh it is the vshojoschizo again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:15:58 No.12007839 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007644
Twitch numbers so raids are a thing. Also, despite VShoujos incline they're still a distant 2nd against HoloEN as awhole. Then again, they've pretty much cemented themselves as THE clearcut 2nd so they don't really have any competition coming from the bottom either. I still say that their ceiling is hardcapped somewhat just based on the type of content that they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:16:28 No.12007865 Report

Quoted By: >>12008417

>>12007562
I dunno anon, have you missed the conversation going on for the last 9-12 months about how EN vtubers are building a main fanbase on Twitch and that even NijiEN and KR do better numbers there than on Youtube?
Of they're inclining, the YT streaming EN vtuber sphere is almost entirely built around HololiveEN and chuubas associated, or trying to be like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:18:24 No.12007962 Report

Quoted By: >>12008417

>>12007562
Why is it when I select a population for the ones with growth and ignore the massive pile of failures do I see growth? I dunno, I’m mathematically illiterate too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:23:53 No.12008260 Report

Quoted By:

>using select few of indie to create some coping narrative while shitting on holos
2view can't handle big number

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:25:14 No.12008315 Report

Quoted By: >>12009057

https://youtu.be/oQOhLtp7c4k
even if Kronii doesn't stream, interactions like these will help the rest of the EN girls grow. she has mastered the art of helping your gen mates out. on a semirelated note, IRyS feels like she's closer to council than myth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:27:39 No.12008417 Report

Quoted By:

>>12007865
The point wasn't to compare numbers from different platforms but rather youtube to youtube and Twitch to twitch.

>>12007962
I literally picked the most popular indies and several of them like Juniper aren't even inclining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:27:53 No.12008428 Report

Quoted By: >>12008595

>>11996438
Dammit, this box pushing black magic fuckery needs to stop.

How many miracles can Hololive really get? Imagine if Aqua never made that speech. Hololive would lose so many kino moments that came after the Minecraft revival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:28:06 No.12008437 Report

Quoted By: >>12008488 >>12008590

>>12006802
>Is there anyway you can do the top 31 NijiJP chuubas and put them against HoloJP?
Only for August 2021 forward.

I'll do one better and just rank them by median peak for October 2021
Format
>median_peak :: num_streams :: vtuberid (gen, company)

Ranking, sorted by median peak CCV for the month of October 2021 (so far)
>28915 :: 27 :: pekora (jp3, hololive)
>26675 :: 28 :: Kuzuha (jp, nijisanji)
>22336 :: 16 :: gura (en1, hololive)
>18779 :: 23 :: miko (jp0, hololive)
>17496 :: 20 :: subaru (jp2, hololive)
>14836 :: 13 :: rushia (jp3, hololive)
>13829 :: 13 :: ouro (en2, hololive)
>12981 :: 13 :: korone (jpgamers, hololive)
>12756 :: 22 :: kanata (jp4, hololive)
>12383 :: 19 :: botan (jp5, hololive)
-- TOP 10
>11850 :: 13 :: mio (jpgamers, hololive)
>11304 :: 34 :: Kanae (jp, nijisanji)
>11169 :: 27 :: fubuki (jp1, hololive)
>10615 :: 12 :: リゼ・ヘルエスタ -Lize Helesta- (jp, nijisanji)
>9895 :: 17 :: nene (jp5, hololive)
>9724 :: 12 :: mumei (en2, hololive)
>9615 :: 11 :: 月ノ美兎 (jp, nijisanji)
>9404 :: 15 :: inanis (en1, hololive)
>9366 :: 23 :: 不破湊 / Fuwa Minato (jp, nijisanji)
>9238 :: 17 :: irys (ensingers, hololive)
>9203 :: 21 :: flare (jp3, hololive)
>8874 :: 20 :: lamy (jp5, hololive)
>8671 :: 10 :: noel (jp3, hololive)
>8375 :: 17 :: ceres (en2, hololive)
>8323 :: 20 :: calliope (en1, hololive)
-- TOP 25
>8138 :: 15 :: okayu (jpgamers, hololive)
>8058 :: 14 :: amelia (en1, hololive)
>8013 :: 20 :: 社築 (jp, nijisanji)
>7858 :: 22 :: polka (jp5, hololive)
>7718 :: 18 :: 加賀美ハヤト/Hayato Kagami (jp, nijisanji)
>7614 :: 26 :: イブラヒム (jp, nijisanji)
>6959 :: 18 :: hakos (en2, hololive)
>6605 :: 22 :: watame (jp4, hololive)
>6206 :: 21 :: kiara (en1, hololive)
>5851 :: 23 :: 勇気ちひろ (jp, nijisanji)
>5783 :: 32 :: himemoriluna (jp4, hololive)
>5688 :: 21 :: ニュイ・ソシエール //[Nui Sociere] (jp, nijisanji)
>5560 :: 17 :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ (jp, nijisanji)
>5495 :: 31 :: towa (jp4, hololive)
>5405 :: 20 :: アルス・アルマル -ars almal- (jp, nijisanji)
>5275 :: 12 :: 笹木咲 / Sasaki Saku (jp, nijisanji)
>4656 :: 12 :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina (jp, nijisanji)
>4602 :: 13 :: 樋口楓 (jp, nijisanji)
>4371 :: 25 :: 夜見れな/yorumi rena (jp, nijisanji)
>4288 :: 29 :: レオス・ヴィンセント / Leos.Vincent (jp, nijisanji)
>4217 :: 11 :: aki (jp1, hololive)
>4181 :: 19 :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas (jp, nijisanji)
>4063 :: 14 :: sora (jp0, hololive)
>3986 :: 14 :: 黛灰 / Kai Mayuzumi (jp, nijisanji)
>3859 :: 17 :: matsuri (jp1, hololive)
-- TOP 50

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:29:12 No.12008488 Report

Quoted By: >>12008590

>>12008437
>3819 :: 12 :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika (jp, nijisanji)
>3767 :: 22 :: 本間ひまわり - Himawari Honma - (jp, nijisanji)
>3755 :: 17 :: moona (id1, hololive)
>3536 :: 13 :: 舞元啓介 (jp, nijisanji)
>3492 :: 15 :: 奈羅花 - Naraka - (jp, nijisanji)
>3423 :: 13 :: 星川サラ / Sara Hoshikawa (jp, nijisanji)
>3295 :: 21 :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone (jp, nijisanji)
>3194 :: 13 :: 伏見ガク (jp, nijisanji)
>3140 :: 17 :: 葉加瀬冬雪 / Hakase Fuyuki (jp, nijisanji)
>3050 :: 11 :: ましろ / Mashiro (jp, nijisanji)
>2934 :: 25 :: roboco (jp0, hololive)
>2864 :: 15 :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio- (jp, nijisanji)
>2763 :: 23 :: Selen Tatsuki (en, nijisanji)
>2698 :: 22 :: 天宮こころ / Amamya Ch. (jp, nijisanji)
>2683 :: 19 :: ollie (id2, hololive)
>2563 :: 18 :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun (kr, nijisanji)
>2532 :: 18 :: 鷹宮リオン / Rion Takamiya (jp, nijisanji)
>2411 :: 11 :: 鈴鹿詩子 Utako Suzuka (jp, nijisanji)
>2369 :: 45 :: 甲斐田晴 / Kaida Haru (jp, nijisanji)
>2324 :: 11 :: でびでび・でびる (jp, nijisanji)
>2263 :: 14 :: 魔使マオ -matsukai mao- (jp, nijisanji)
>2215 :: 10 :: ドーラ (jp, nijisanji)
>2162 :: 14 :: ルイス・キャミー (jp, nijisanji)
>1896 :: 18 :: 周央サンゴ / Suo Sango (jp, nijisanji)
>1883 :: 34 :: える / Elu (jp, nijisanji)
>1858 :: 13 :: 葉山舞鈴 / Hayama Marin (jp, nijisanji)
>1855 :: 19 :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans (jp, nijisanji)
>1795 :: 19 :: Elira Pendora (en, nijisanji)
>1773 :: 15 :: ベルモンド・バンデラス (jp, nijisanji)
>1741 :: 11 :: 夢追翔のJUKE BOX (jp, nijisanji)
>1738 :: 13 :: astel (stars2, hololive)
>1710 :: 22 :: Pomu Rainpuff (en, nijisanji)
>1596 :: 14 :: 魔界ノりりむ (jp, nijisanji)
>1481 :: 15 :: 【3年0組】郡道美玲の教室 (jp, nijisanji)
>1461 :: 24 :: 長尾景 / Nagao Kei (jp, nijisanji)
>1455 :: 19 :: Millie Parfait (en, nijisanji)
>1411 :: 12 :: 北小路ヒスイ / Kitakoji Hisui (jp, nijisanji)
>1410 :: 23 :: reine (id2, hololive)
>1403 :: 24 :: レイン・パターソン/Lain Paterson (jp, nijisanji)
>1391 :: 16 :: 桜凛月 (jp, nijisanji)
>1363 :: 21 :: Rosemi Lovelock (en, nijisanji)
>1340 :: 15 :: Finana Ryugu (en, nijisanji)
>1260 :: 11 :: iofi (id1, hololive)
>1200 :: 15 :: 山神カルタ / Karuta Yamagami (jp, nijisanji)
>1166 :: 12 :: グウェル・オス・ガール / Gwelu Os Gar (jp, nijisanji)
>1159 :: 28 :: Shizuka Rin Official (jp, nijisanji)
>1154 :: 15 :: 鈴木勝 / Suzuki Masaru (jp, nijisanji)
>1126 :: 16 :: Petra Gurin (en, nijisanji)
>1070 :: 11 :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa (jp, nijisanji)
>1040 :: 21 :: Enna Alouette (en, nijisanji)
-- Top 100
>1038 :: 14 :: Yuhi Riri Official (jp, nijisanji)
>1024 :: 20 :: roberu (stars2, hololive)
>978 :: 22 :: Nina Kosaka (en, nijisanji)
>977 :: 15 :: 来栖夏芽-kurusu natsume- (jp, nijisanji)
>942 :: 23 :: 小野町春香 / Onomachi Haruka (jp, nijisanji)
>891 :: 10 :: 森中花咲 (jp, nijisanji)
>883 :: 23 :: Reimu Endou (en, nijisanji)
>880 :: 10 :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>855 :: 17 :: フミ/にじさんじ (jp, nijisanji)
>793 :: 13 :: miyabi (stars1, hololive)
>780 :: 18 :: melfissa (id2, hololive)
>635 :: 11 :: shien (stars3, hololive)
>554 :: 34 :: aruran (stars1, hololive)
>550 :: 13 :: oga (stars3, hololive)
>539 :: 15 :: 瀬戸美夜子 - Miyako Seto (jp, nijisanji)
>464 :: 14 :: 鈴谷アキの陽だまりの庭 (jp, nijisanji)
>460 :: 28 :: 神田笑一 (jp, nijisanji)
>416 :: 12 :: temma (stars2, hololive)
>415 :: 13 :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro (jp, nijisanji)
>340 :: 21 :: 양나리 / Nari Yang (kr, nijisanji)
>340 :: 13 :: 소나기 / Nagi So (kr, nijisanji)
>304 :: 12 :: Mika Melatika (id, nijisanji)
>298 :: 11 :: 반하다 / Ban Hada (kr, nijisanji)
>275 :: 26 :: 세피나 / Seffyna (kr, nijisanji)
>227 :: 11 :: ZEA Cornelia (id, nijisanji)
>217 :: 24 :: 渋谷ハジメのはじめ支部 (jp, nijisanji)
>216 :: 21 :: Siska Leontyne (id, nijisanji)
>210 :: 12 :: 成瀬鳴 / Naruse Naru (jp, nijisanji)
>209 :: 12 :: 이시우 / Siu Lee (kr, nijisanji)
>167 :: 20 :: Xia Ekavira (id, nijisanji)
>166 :: 18 :: 하윤 / Ha Yun (kr, nijisanji)
>155 :: 10 :: 민수하 / Suha Min (kr, nijisanji)
>145 :: 12 :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh (kr, nijisanji)
>141 :: 15 :: 나세라 / Na Sera (kr, nijisanji)
>133 :: 16 :: Amicia Michella (id, nijisanji)
>118 :: 17 :: 이온 / Lee On (kr, nijisanji)
>117 :: 20 :: Reza Avanluna [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>115 :: 13 :: 고야미 / Ko Yami (kr, nijisanji)
>104 :: 14 :: 한치호 / Chiho Han (kr, nijisanji)
>103 :: 10 :: Hyona Elatiora (id, nijisanji)
>82 :: 16 :: Riksa Dhirendra (id, nijisanji)
>78 :: 11 :: Etna Crimson (id, nijisanji)
>52 :: 17 :: Derem Kado (id, nijisanji)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:31:42 No.12008590 Report

Quoted By: >>12008736 >>12008822

>>12008437
>>12008488
These exclude all channels without at least ten (10) streams this month.

Here is the excluded list, for completeness sake

>median_peak :: num_streams :: vtuberid (gen, company)
>86039 :: 1 :: ayame (jp2, hololive)
>19982 :: 7 :: aqua (jp2, hololive)
>19122 :: 2 :: にじさんじ (jp, nijisanji)
>17779 :: 9 :: suisei (jp0, hololive)
>14331 :: 6 :: shion (jp2, hololive)
>13125 :: 6 :: 剣持刀也 (jp, nijisanji)
>10465 :: 1 :: NIJISANJI English Official (en, nijisanji)
>8493 :: 5 :: haato (jp1, hololive)
>8165 :: 9 :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina - (jp, nijisanji)
>5647 :: 7 :: 戌亥とこ -Inui Toko- (jp, nijisanji)
>5362 :: 9 :: 花畑チャイカ (jp, nijisanji)
>4422 :: 1 :: 春崎エアル (jp, nijisanji)
>3752 :: 7 :: sana (en2, hololive)
>3638 :: 3 :: ラトナ・プティ -Ratna Petit - (jp, nijisanji)
>3415 :: 6 :: ジョー・力一 Joe Rikiichi (jp, nijisanji)
>3102 :: 9 :: 町田ちま (jp, nijisanji)
>2966 :: 5 :: シェリン・バーガンディ -Shellin Burgundy- (jp, nijisanji)
>2810 :: 7 :: mel (jp1, hololive)
>2475 :: 8 :: choco (jp2, hololive)
>2083 :: 7 :: 文野環【にじさんじの野良猫】ふみのたまき (jp, nijisanji)
>2079 :: 8 :: 卯月コウ (jp, nijisanji)
>2020 :: 1 :: 物述有栖 (jp, nijisanji)
>1668 :: 6 :: 緑仙 / Ryushen (jp, nijisanji)
>1641 :: 2 :: 相羽ういは〖Aiba Uiha〗 (jp, nijisanji)
>1466 :: 9 :: 白雪巴/Shirayuki Tomoe (jp, nijisanji)
>1405 :: 5 :: 竜胆尊 / Rindou Mikoto (jp, nijisanji)
>1389 :: 6 :: 弦月藤士郎 / Genzuki Tojiro (jp, nijisanji)
>1324 :: 2 :: 黒井しば【にじさんじの犬】 (jp, nijisanji)
>1272 :: 3 :: 東堂コハク/ Todo Kohaku [にじさんじ] (jp, nijisanji)
>1232 :: 6 :: シスター・クレア -SisterClaire- (jp, nijisanji)
>1158 :: 6 :: risu (id1, hololive)
>1101 :: 7 :: メリッサ・キンレンカ (jp, nijisanji)
>993 :: 6 :: 赤羽葉子ちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>764 :: 4 :: 朝日南アカネ / Asahina Akane (jp, nijisanji)
>710 :: 7 :: izuru (stars1, hololive)
>706 :: 5 :: えまおうがすと (jp, nijisanji)
>691 :: 3 :: 童田明治-わらべだめいじー- (jp, nijisanji)
>651 :: 6 :: 安土桃 (jp, nijisanji)
>646 :: 9 :: レヴィ・エリファ-Levi Elipha- (jp, nijisanji)
>577 :: 9 :: Hana Macchia Ch. (id, nijisanji)
>576 :: 5 :: 《の女神》モイラ (jp, nijisanji)
>518 :: 9 :: rikka (stars1, hololive)
>479 :: 2 :: Bonnivier Pranaja (id, nijisanji)
>465 :: 9 :: 空星きらめ/Sorahoshi Kirame (jp, nijisanji)
>458 :: 1 :: エリー・コニファー / Eli Conifer (jp, nijisanji)
>433 :: 6 :: 이로하 /LeeRoha (kr, nijisanji)
>386 :: 4 :: 아키라 레이 / 明楽レイ / Ray Akira (kr, nijisanji)
>351 :: 8 :: 愛園愛美/Aizono Manami (jp, nijisanji)
>347 :: 8 :: 轟京子/kyoko todoroki (jp, nijisanji)
>327 :: 8 :: 家長むぎ【】 (jp, nijisanji)
>249 :: 9 :: Miyu Ottavia (id, nijisanji)
>164 :: 6 :: Nara Haramaung (id, nijisanji)
>161 :: 8 :: 송미아 / Song Mia (kr, nijisanji)
>155 :: 8 :: Azura Cecillia (id, nijisanji)
>142 :: 8 :: Layla Alstroemeria [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>142 :: 4 :: Taka Radjiman (id, nijisanji)
>127 :: 6 :: Rai Galilei (id, nijisanji)
>124 :: 4 :: 채아라 / Ara Chae (kr, nijisanji)
>117 :: 8 :: 류하리 / Hari Ryu (kr, nijisanji)
>61 :: 8 :: Nagisa Arcinia [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>57 :: 4 :: 신기루 / Kiru Shin (kr, nijisanji)
>55 :: 7 :: 가온 / GAON (kr, nijisanji)
>31 :: 1 :: 犬童 / kendou (vr, nijisanji)

Is 10 a good cutting point? Should it be lower?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:31:47 No.12008595 Report

Quoted By: >>12010596

>>12008428
https://youtu.be/qyN5tNYhfSg
Yagoo is either the smartest man alive or the luckiest man alive. He would control the meme, control the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:35:07 No.12008736 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008590
Thanks anon. If you really don't wanna do 31v31, I think 20v20 is fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:37:10 No.12008822 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008590
5 seems reasonable but 10 is fine too. Props for injecting real numbers back into the thread. Man this really puts it in perspective. Kiara would be a top asset and Aki Rose would be a strong middleweight in Niji

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:39:58 No.12008921 Report

Quoted By: >>12008966 >>12009191 >>12009246 >>12009662 >>12010001 >>12011178 >>12011338 >>12011527

Format
>position :: median_peak :: num_streams :: vtuberid (gen, company)

Here is the ranking, sorted by median peak, changed the cutting point to 5 streams to match what nip anons already do
>1. 28915 :: 27 :: pekora (jp3, hololive)
>2. 26675 :: 28 :: Kuzuha Channel (jp, nijisanji)
>3. 22336 :: 16 :: gura (en1, hololive)
>4. 19982 :: 7 :: aqua (jp2, hololive)
>5. 18779 :: 23 :: miko (jp0, hololive)
>6. 17779 :: 9 :: suisei (jp0, hololive)
>7. 17496 :: 20 :: subaru (jp2, hololive)
>8. 14836 :: 13 :: rushia (jp3, hololive)
>9. 14331 :: 6 :: shion (jp2, hololive)
>10. 13829 :: 13 :: ouro (en2, hololive)
>-- Top 10
>11. 13125 :: 6 :: 剣持刀也 (jp, nijisanji)
>12. 12981 :: 13 :: korone (jpgamers, hololive)
>13. 12756 :: 22 :: kanata (jp4, hololive)
>14. 12383 :: 19 :: botan (jp5, hololive)
>15. 11850 :: 13 :: mio (jpgamers, hololive)
>16. 11304 :: 34 :: Kanae Channel (jp, nijisanji)
>17. 11169 :: 27 :: fubuki (jp1, hololive)
>18. 10615 :: 12 :: リゼ・ヘルエスタ -Lize Helesta- (jp, nijisanji)
>19. 9895 :: 17 :: nene (jp5, hololive)
>20. 9724 :: 12 :: mumei (en2, hololive)
>21. 9615 :: 11 :: 月ノ美兎 (jp, nijisanji)
>22. 9404 :: 15 :: inanis (en1, hololive)
>23. 9366 :: 23 :: 不破湊 / Fuwa Minato (jp, nijisanji)
>24. 9238 :: 17 :: irys (ensingers, hololive)
>25. 9203 :: 21 :: flare (jp3, hololive)
>26. 8874 :: 20 :: lamy (jp5, hololive)
>27. 8671 :: 10 :: noel (jp3, hololive)
>28. 8493 :: 5 :: haato (jp1, hololive)
>29. 8375 :: 17 :: ceres (en2, hololive)
>30. 8323 :: 741 :: hololive (corp0, hololive)
>31. 8323 :: 20 :: calliope (en1, hololive)
>32. 8165 :: 9 :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina - (jp, nijisanji)
>33. 8138 :: 15 :: okayu (jpgamers, hololive)
>34. 8058 :: 14 :: amelia (en1, hololive)
>35. 8013 :: 20 :: 社築 (jp, nijisanji)
>36. 7858 :: 22 :: polka (jp5, hololive)
>37. 7718 :: 18 :: 加賀美ハヤト/Hayato Kagami (jp, nijisanji)
>38. 7614 :: 26 :: イブラヒム (jp, nijisanji)
>39. 6959 :: 18 :: hakos (en2, hololive)
>40. 6605 :: 22 :: watame (jp4, hololive)
>41. 6206 :: 21 :: kiara (en1, hololive)
>42. 5851 :: 23 :: 勇気ちひろ (jp, nijisanji)
>43. 5783 :: 32 :: himemoriluna (jp4, hololive)
>44. 5688 :: 21 :: ニュイ・ソシエール //[Nui Sociere] (jp, nijisanji)
>45. 5647 :: 7 :: 戌亥とこ -Inui Toko- (jp, nijisanji)
>46. 5560 :: 17 :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ (jp, nijisanji)
>47. 5495 :: 31 :: towa (jp4, hololive)
>48. 5405 :: 20 :: アルス・アルマル -ars almal- (jp, nijisanji)
>49. 5362 :: 9 :: 花畑チャイカ (jp, nijisanji)
>50. 5275 :: 12 :: 笹木咲 / Sasaki Saku (jp, nijisanji)
>-- Top 50

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:40:59 No.12008966 Report

Quoted By: >>12009008 >>12009191

>>12008921
>51. 4656 :: 12 :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina (jp, nijisanji)
>52. 4602 :: 13 :: 樋口楓【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>53. 4371 :: 25 :: 夜見れな/yorumi rena【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>54. 4288 :: 29 :: レオス・ヴィンセント / Leos.Vincent (jp, nijisanji)
>55. 4217 :: 11 :: aki (jp1, hololive)
>56. 4181 :: 19 :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas (jp, nijisanji)
>57. 4063 :: 14 :: sora (jp0, hololive)
>58. 3986 :: 14 :: 黛灰 / Kai Mayuzumi (jp, nijisanji)
>59. 3859 :: 17 :: matsuri (jp1, hololive)
>60. 3819 :: 12 :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika (jp, nijisanji)
>61. 3767 :: 22 :: 本間ひまわり - Himawari Honma - (jp, nijisanji)
>62. 3755 :: 17 :: moona (id1, hololive)
>63. 3752 :: 7 :: sana (en2, hololive)
>64. 3536 :: 13 :: 舞元啓介 (jp, nijisanji)
>65. 3492 :: 15 :: 奈羅花 - Naraka - (jp, nijisanji)
>66. 3423 :: 13 :: 星川サラ / Sara Hoshikawa (jp, nijisanji)
>67. 3415 :: 6 :: ジョー・力一 Joe Rikiichi (jp, nijisanji)
>68. 3295 :: 21 :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone (jp, nijisanji)
>69. 3194 :: 13 :: 伏見ガク【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>70. 3140 :: 17 :: 葉加瀬冬雪 / Hakase Fuyuki (jp, nijisanji)
>71. 3102 :: 9 :: 町田ちま (jp, nijisanji)
>72. 3050 :: 11 :: ましろ / Mashiro (jp, nijisanji)
>73. 2966 :: 5 :: シェリン・バーガンディ -Shellin Burgundy- (jp, nijisanji)
>74. 2934 :: 25 :: roboco (jp0, hololive)
>75. 2864 :: 15 :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio- (jp, nijisanji)
>76. 2810 :: 7 :: mel (jp1, hololive)
>77. 2763 :: 23 :: Selen Tatsuki (en, nijisanji)
>78. 2698 :: 22 :: 天宮こころ / Amamya Ch. (jp, nijisanji)
>79. 2683 :: 19 :: ollie (id2, hololive)
>80. 2563 :: 18 :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun (kr, nijisanji)
>81. 2532 :: 18 :: 鷹宮リオン / Rion Takamiya (jp, nijisanji)
>82. 2475 :: 8 :: choco (jp2, hololive)
>83. 2411 :: 11 :: 鈴鹿詩子 Utako Suzuka (jp, nijisanji)
>84. 2369 :: 45 :: 甲斐田晴 / Kaida Haru (jp, nijisanji)
>85. 2324 :: 11 :: でびでび・でびる (jp, nijisanji)
>86. 2263 :: 14 :: 魔使マオ -matsukai mao- (jp, nijisanji)
>87. 2215 :: 10 :: ドーラ (jp, nijisanji)
>88. 2162 :: 14 :: ルイス・キャミー (jp, nijisanji)
>89. 2083 :: 7 :: 文野環【にじさんじの野良猫】ふみのたまき (jp, nijisanji)
>90. 2079 :: 8 :: 卯月コウ (jp, nijisanji)
>91. 1896 :: 18 :: 周央サンゴ / Suo Sango (jp, nijisanji)
>92. 1883 :: 34 :: える / Elu (jp, nijisanji)
>93. 1858 :: 13 :: 葉山舞鈴 / Hayama Marin (jp, nijisanji)
>94. 1855 :: 19 :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans (jp, nijisanji)
>95. 1795 :: 19 :: Elira Pendora (en, nijisanji)
>96. 1773 :: 15 :: ベルモンド・バンデラス (jp, nijisanji)
>97. 1741 :: 11 :: 夢追翔のJUKE BOX (jp, nijisanji)
>98. 1738 :: 13 :: astel (stars2, hololive)
>99. 1710 :: 22 :: Pomu Rainpuff (en, nijisanji)
>100. 1668 :: 6 :: 緑仙 / Ryushen (jp, nijisanji)
>-- Top 100
(2/?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:42:01 No.12009008 Report

Quoted By: >>12009191

>>12008966
>101. 1596 :: 14 :: 魔界ノりりむ (jp, nijisanji)
>102. 1481 :: 15 :: 【3年0組】郡道美玲の教室 (jp, nijisanji)
>103. 1466 :: 9 :: 白雪巴/Shirayuki Tomoe (jp, nijisanji)
>104. 1461 :: 24 :: 長尾景 / Nagao Kei (jp, nijisanji)
>105. 1455 :: 19 :: Millie Parfait (en, nijisanji)
>106. 1411 :: 12 :: 北小路ヒスイ / Kitakoji Hisui (jp, nijisanji)
>107. 1410 :: 23 :: reine (id2, hololive)
>108. 1405 :: 5 :: 竜胆尊 / Rindou Mikoto (jp, nijisanji)
>109. 1403 :: 24 :: レイン・パターソン/Lain Paterson (jp, nijisanji)
>110. 1391 :: 16 :: 桜凛月 (jp, nijisanji)
>111. 1389 :: 6 :: 弦月藤士郎 / Genzuki Tojiro (jp, nijisanji)
>112. 1363 :: 21 :: Rosemi Lovelock (en, nijisanji)
>113. 1340 :: 15 :: Finana Ryugu (en, nijisanji)
>114. 1260 :: 11 :: iofi (id1, hololive)
>115. 1232 :: 6 :: シスター・クレア -SisterClaire- (jp, nijisanji)
>116. 1200 :: 15 :: 山神カルタ / Karuta Yamagami (jp, nijisanji)
>117. 1166 :: 12 :: グウェル・オス・ガール / Gwelu Os Gar (jp, nijisanji)
>118. 1159 :: 28 :: Shizuka Rin Official (jp, nijisanji)
>119. 1158 :: 6 :: risu (id1, hololive)
>120. 1154 :: 15 :: 鈴木勝 / Suzuki Masaru (jp, nijisanji)
>121. 1126 :: 16 :: Petra Gurin (en, nijisanji)
>122. 1101 :: 7 :: メリッサ・キンレンカ (jp, nijisanji)
>123. 1070 :: 11 :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa (jp, nijisanji)
>124. 1040 :: 21 :: Enna Alouette (en, nijisanji)
>125. 1038 :: 14 :: Yuhi Riri Official (jp, nijisanji)
>126. 1024 :: 20 :: roberu (stars2, hololive)
>127. 993 :: 6 :: 赤羽葉子ちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>128. 978 :: 22 :: Nina Kosaka (en, nijisanji)
>129. 977 :: 15 :: 来栖夏芽-kurusu natsume- (jp, nijisanji)
>130. 942 :: 23 :: 小野町春香 / Onomachi Haruka (jp, nijisanji)
>131. 891 :: 10 :: 森中花咲 (jp, nijisanji)
>132. 883 :: 23 :: Reimu Endou (en, nijisanji)
>133. 880 :: 10 :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>134. 855 :: 17 :: フミ/にじさんじ (jp, nijisanji)
>135. 793 :: 13 :: miyabi (stars1, hololive)
>136. 780 :: 18 :: melfissa (id2, hololive)
>137. 710 :: 7 :: izuru (stars1, hololive)
>138. 706 :: 5 :: えまおうがすと (jp, nijisanji)
>139. 651 :: 6 :: 安土桃 (jp, nijisanji)
>140. 646 :: 9 :: レヴィ・エリファ-Levi Elipha- (jp, nijisanji)
>141. 635 :: 11 :: shien (stars3, hololive)
>142. 577 :: 9 :: Hana Macchia Ch. (id, nijisanji)
>143. 576 :: 5 :: 《にじさんじ所属の女神》モイラ (jp, nijisanji)
>144. 554 :: 34 :: aruran (stars1, hololive)
>145. 550 :: 13 :: oga (stars3, hololive)
>146. 539 :: 15 :: 瀬戸美夜子 - Miyako Seto (jp, nijisanji)
>147. 518 :: 9 :: rikka (stars1, hololive)
>148. 465 :: 9 :: 空星きらめ/Sorahoshi Kirame (jp, nijisanji)
>149. 464 :: 14 :: 鈴谷アキの陽だまりの庭 (jp, nijisanji)
>150. 460 :: 28 :: 神田笑一 (jp, nijisanji)
>151. 433 :: 6 :: 이로하 /LeeRoha (kr, nijisanji)
>152. 416 :: 12 :: temma (stars2, hololive)
>153. 415 :: 13 :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>154. 351 :: 8 :: 愛園愛美/Aizono Manami (jp, nijisanji)
>155. 347 :: 8 :: 轟京子/kyoko todoroki (jp, nijisanji)
>156. 340 :: 21 :: 양나리 / Nari Yang (kr, nijisanji)
>157. 340 :: 13 :: 소나기 / Nagi So (kr, nijisanji)
>158. 327 :: 8 :: 家長むぎ【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>159. 304 :: 12 :: Mika Melatika (id, nijisanji)
>160. 298 :: 11 :: 반하다 / Ban Hada (kr, nijisanji)
>161. 275 :: 26 :: 세피나 / Seffyna (kr, nijisanji)
>162. 249 :: 9 :: Miyu Ottavia (id, nijisanji)
>163. 227 :: 11 :: ZEA Cornelia (id, nijisanji)
>164. 217 :: 24 :: 渋谷ハジメのはじめ支部 (jp, nijisanji)
>165. 216 :: 21 :: Siska Leontyne (id, nijisanji)
>166. 210 :: 12 :: 成瀬鳴 / Naruse Naru (jp, nijisanji)
>167. 209 :: 12 :: 이시우 / Siu Lee (kr, nijisanji)
>168. 167 :: 20 :: Xia Ekavira (id, nijisanji)
>169. 166 :: 18 :: 하윤 / Ha Yun (kr, nijisanji)
>170. 164 :: 6 :: Nara Haramaung (id, nijisanji)
>171. 161 :: 8 :: 송미아 / Song Mia (kr, nijisanji)
>172. 155 :: 8 :: Azura Cecillia (id, nijisanji)
>173. 155 :: 10 :: 민수하 / Suha Min (kr, nijisanji)
>174. 145 :: 12 :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh (kr, nijisanji)
>175. 142 :: 8 :: Layla Alstroemeria [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>176. 141 :: 15 :: 나세라 / Na Sera (kr, nijisanji)
>177. 133 :: 16 :: Amicia Michella (id, nijisanji)
>178. 127 :: 6 :: Rai Galilei (id, nijisanji)
>179. 118 :: 17 :: 이온 / Lee On (kr, nijisanji)
>180. 117 :: 8 :: 류하리 / Hari Ryu (kr, nijisanji)
>181. 117 :: 20 :: Reza Avanluna (id, nijisanji)
>182. 115 :: 13 :: 고야미 / Ko Yami (kr, nijisanji)
>183. 104 :: 14 :: 한치호 / Chiho Han (kr, nijisanji)
>184. 103 :: 10 :: Hyona Elatiora (id, nijisanji)
>185. 82 :: 16 :: Riksa Dhirendra (id, nijisanji)
>186. 78 :: 11 :: Etna Crimson (id, nijisanji)
>187. 61 :: 8 :: Nagisa Arcinia (id, nijisanji)
>188. 55 :: 7 :: 가온 / GAON (kr, nijisanji)
>189. 52 :: 17 :: Derem Kado (id, nijisanji)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:43:03 No.12009057 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008315
I'm jus glad that Irys and Council brings out a different phase of Mori and Gura (Ina too).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:46:37 No.12009191 Report

Quoted By: >>12009322

>>12008921
>>12008966
>>12009008
Some results there surprised me

>Selen almost matching Mel
Very good, very surprising, truly standing out from her branch

>Astel matching Pomu and closing in to Elira
Very good, very surprising, truly standing out from his branch

>Bora Nun matching Choco
Very good, very surprising, truly standing out from her branch

>Moona matching Sana and both outmatching Hoshikawa and Axia Krone
DIdn't see that one coming either

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:47:56 No.12009246 Report

Quoted By: >>12009334

>>12008921
>that top 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:49:21 No.12009322 Report

Quoted By: >>12009394

>>12009191
>Moona
She is THE biggest indonesian vtuber. I'm surprised the entire indo weeb scene isn't plastering her everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:49:36 No.12009334 Report

Quoted By: >>12012407

>>12009246
Anykara should thank their lucky stars that Kuzuha is a fucking neet and hasn't gone full lebron on their asses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:50:12 No.12009361 Report

Quoted By:

>>11998693
Needs Russian to take advantage of the RU fanbase that Botan has, as well as steal some RU fans from Nina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:51:02 No.12009394 Report

Quoted By:

>>12009322
You know why she's the biggest on ID. The partnerships also reflect that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:51:30 No.12009407 Report

Quoted By: >>12009554 >>12010109

how do you think Sora feel seeing and witnessing first-hand how big Hololive has grown over the years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:54:11 No.12009554 Report

Quoted By:

>>12009407
Like a proud goddess looking at her creation with a satisfied smile on her face. Her and FBK are probably the ones who are the most invested in the Hololive project.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:56:28 No.12009662 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008921
Slight mistake on 30. It’s an aggregate and shouldn’t be there.

Everyone below it move up a position

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 23:58:16 No.12009750 Report

Quoted By: >>12009906 >>12009962 >>12010089

for you newfags who weren't here to witness Gura's initial insane growth. I doubt we will see numbers like this ever again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:01:25 No.12009906 Report

Quoted By: >>12010103 >>12010109

>>12009750
kek I remember people speculating whether Fubuki or Korone would get 1 mil first and then Gura just speeds past them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:02:37 No.12009962 Report

Quoted By: >>12010103

>>12009750
A mega hyped ES gen might do it simply because the ES base is huge albeit poor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:03:30 No.12010001 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008921
33 out of 50 is hololive, 9 of it is top 10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:05:08 No.12010089 Report

Quoted By:

>>12009750
https://youtu.be/fIRwg6_JR4E?t=173

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:05:27 No.12010103 Report

Quoted By: >>12010241 >>12010260

>>12009906
I don't remember the exact numbers but Gura was getting an insane amount of subscribers a day and she maintained that for the rest of 2020.
>>12009962
maybe but it's going to be hard to recreate that initial magic that HoloEN had due to it being the perfect storm release time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:05:36 No.12010109 Report

Quoted By: >>12010293 >>12010331

>>12009407
It certainly motivated her to stream more and join the fun

>>12009906
I wasn't much a numberfag back then, numbers too big, too fast to make sense out of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:08:33 No.12010241 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010103
she was gainign 30k a day every month after debut until february

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:08:57 No.12010260 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010103
True but the ES market is wiiiiide open. They need to spend some time pandering and then have the talents hype the gen to the moon and even engage with the hellhole that is the Twitch/yt ES sphere and it could do it. Not sure it’s worth it though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:09:32 No.12010293 Report

Quoted By: >>12010370

>>12010109
>fastest growing
>most subscribers
>highest CCV
>most superchatted
Hololive actually ruined numberfagging, at least in the area where it is quantifiable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:10:19 No.12010331 Report

Quoted By: >>12010845

>>12010109
You can see it from how many collabs she is able to do now. She has people to play DBD now. Just compare her numbers playing it alone recently and when she was playing it with other people. The difference is almost twice. Mori on the other hand has always flourished in her zatsus but people that don't watch her won't know that so having people like Bae and Irys exposes a big crowd to a calm engaged Mori improves her optics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:10:58 No.12010370 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010293
People resort to number fagging between JP and EN or ID vs Niji female. That’s how bad it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:13:53 No.12010517 Report

Quoted By: >>12010643 >>12010859 >>12010917 >>12011038

Am I reading this right? Kiara would be top ten Niji? You’d think she was bottom half the way she is talked about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:15:08 No.12010596 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008595
This is isn't really Yagoo's effort. This is the effectiveness of his scouting team. Yagoo is the idea man that just greenlits ideas when he sees them. His management on the other hand are the breaks that prevents everything from blowing up into shambles. Whether or not those decisions were unsavory to viewers because management is supposed to play the part pooper anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:16:04 No.12010643 Report

Quoted By: >>12010818

>>12010517
No, the 10th niji is #38 and kiara is 41st, rather polka would be on niji top 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:20:07 No.12010818 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010643
so you're telling me every gen5 member would be top 10 in niji? the gen 5 schizo won't like this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:20:42 No.12010845 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010331
Make the 2 most powerful ENgine in the branch more powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:20:55 No.12010859 Report

Quoted By: >>12011959

>>12010517
It's actually Kiara that brings herself down a lot which turns into sensationalized clips. Many of the people reacting to her are mostly annoyed because why would a person who is successful comparatively numberwise even share these moments of thoughts in public. It looks so conceited. Botan I think had the best anti-numberfag moment during her 1M event where she said she didn't feel she earned her place and have wondered for the longest when can she really say she earned her sub count. I'd say she earned every sub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:22:13 No.12010917 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010517
taking a quick look on her channel, she hasnt played much jrpg to poison her numbers this october

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:24:45 No.12011038 Report

Quoted By:

>>12010517
Kiara does decent when she's not playing JRPGs for 8 hours a day twice a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:27:43 No.12011178 Report

Quoted By: >>12011289

>>12008921
I just realized
>Marine excluded, no stream
>Ayame excluded (her only stream is the 3D live with 86k peak ccv)
So effectively, 2 spots was given to Niji

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:29:13 No.12011251 Report

Quoted By: >>12011320 >>12011351

>Pomu has the highest views in the current collab
>Elira and finana didn't suffer any lose in views

Man lazulight is built different

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:30:01 No.12011289 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011178
If you add Ayame and Marine into the mix then Mori and HoloMain will be bumped down. Not a niji. It's going to be the same for the top20

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:30:48 No.12011320 Report

Quoted By: >>12011411

>>12011251
>6 nijiEN streaming
>4 started at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:31:13 No.12011338 Report

Quoted By:

>>12008921
rank without Ayame and Marine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:31:23 No.12011351 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011251
>Ethyria go to sub 1k

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:31:33 No.12011363 Report

Quoted By: >>12011435 >>12011491 >>12011527 >>12012611

Numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:32:25 No.12011411 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011320
Nina and selen are the only ones who care about not overlapping

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:32:48 No.12011435 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011363
ew

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:33:35 No.12011479 Report

Quoted By: >>12011646 >>12011889 >>12011983

>>12007427
Roboco only makes those numbers in other events, collabs and what not. Her normal numbers aren't like this at all. She would be in one of the bottoms in nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:33:48 No.12011491 Report

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>>12011363
prism.... phase... ganbatte

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:34:44 No.12011525 Report

Quoted By: >>12011897

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:34:49 No.12011527 Report

Quoted By: >>12011864 >>12011897 >>12012107

>>12011363
Do you think it would help every NijiEN gen if they also had a 1 month collab ban to establish their fanbase?
>>12008921
Man. Irys and Council sure did help bump down some Nijis

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:37:28 No.12011646 Report

Quoted By: >>12011938

>>12011479
The bottoms of Nijis are 100-1k CCV. Roboco gets 2k+ regularly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:38:23 No.12011692 Report

Quoted By:

https://hololive.wiki/wiki/Main_Page
in case you didn't know, Hololive has a wiki page. you can use it to check people's milestones/goals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:39:37 No.12011755 Report

Quoted By: >>12011876 >>12011903 >>12012064

Man the amount of fanboyism for hololive in here is disgusting kek. How do you guys feel to suck yagoo's dick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:41:53 No.12011864 Report

Quoted By: >>12012468

>>12011527
It would, but not by much. It heavily depends on what appeal they can cater to. They would still lose viewers solely due to the initial streams they chose to do.

Them doing lots of reintroduction streams, donation streams, and watchalongs really hurt their growth.
That means there's not much excitement when they get over the collab ban like it is with Hololive.

I'd say the collab ban is genius because it's effectively extends the debut buff that new Holo talents have. NijiEN Wave 3 effectively had no debut buff to extend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:42:04 No.12011876 Report

Quoted By: >>12011993

>>12011755
Or you can just keep being cringe and keep calling the only person in Niji that draws in the big numbers as King. It's a really hard choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:42:17 No.12011889 Report

Quoted By: >>12012087 >>12012107

>>12011479
>She would be in one of the bottoms in nijisan
But can those niji bottom arranged a collab that get roboco collab numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:42:31 No.12011897 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011525
gacha is too powerful
>>12011527
The collab ban would have been a debuff for members like selen since her main thing is collab but it's hard to say for Ethyria. Their first week was weak in terms of content, collab ban or not. In fact they should have gotten a buff from selen's mega collab

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:42:34 No.12011903 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011755
This is the numbers thread
Yagoo gives us numbers

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:43:06 No.12011927 Report

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Suki ni natte! Motto!
Watashi wo mite! Motto!

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:43:29 No.12011938 Report

Quoted By: >>12012193 >>12012545

>>12011646
I'm not talking about that bottom. There's 4 places above her in nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:43:54 No.12011959 Report

Quoted By: >>12012101 >>12012142 >>12012459

>>12010859
Kiara said exactly the same and got shit on for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:44:20 No.12011983 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011479
Robot would be a low high-tier in Nijisanji. That's just how strong Holos are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:44:33 No.12011993 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011876
I'm a 774 fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:45:44 No.12012064 Report

Quoted By: >>12012216

>>12011755
From nobody to the top market leader
From rags to riches
Only made from Yagoo's home for broken people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:46:07 No.12012087 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011889
Roboco hasn't really done any 1on1 collabs or 1POV group collabs with a top holo recently. Only with midtier but she still keeps up her CCV twice above your bottom tier Niji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:46:14 No.12012101 Report

Quoted By: >>12013933

>>12011959
Did she? Botan said that she got to 100k quick because of the holo buff but 1M feels different, she felt like she really earned this. No comparisons made to the other girls in her gen or the company. What did Kiara say exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:46:19 No.12012107 Report

Quoted By: >>12012236 >>12012300 >>12012392 >>12012569

>>12011889
Depending on the event yes. In Koshien for example Onomachi was doing 10k.
>>12011527
> collab ban
> nijisanji
> gen
holy holobrony

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:46:40 No.12012142 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011959
the holosphere doesn't want unnecessary and unwarranted drama, knowing holojp started at a much cruel state than her silver platter.

it seems she improved now and got over the numberfagging

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:47:23 No.12012193 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011938
>I'm not talking about that bottom
>She would be in one of the bottoms in nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:47:38 No.12012216 Report

Quoted By: >>12012400 >>12012521 >>12017690

>>12012064
Do you guys think that Cover scouts for people with sad backstories just for the "idol journey" buff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:47:52 No.12012236 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012107
stay mad nijibronie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:48:41 No.12012300 Report

Quoted By: >>12012782

>>12012107
Koshien was an event. Can they arrange a run of the mill UNO collab and get big numbers like Roboco can?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:50:00 No.12012392 Report

Quoted By: >>12012633

>>12012107
They are already hiring Holo rejects. We might as well theorize if they can get any traction by employing Holo tactics. Consensus looks like they won't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:50:09 No.12012400 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012216
Im sure that it was just a coincidence, They wete nobodies, they had to accept anyone, ANYONE who can grind. They formulated success of course, the feed backs, they must have liked it and maybe just maybe, backstories are a bonus for the current applicants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:50:18 No.12012407 Report

Quoted By: >>12012664 >>12012803

>>12009334
Nijisanji without Kuzuha still would be doing great anon. The world isn't about winning about the other company like a fucking playstation fanboy.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:51:00 No.12012446 Report

Quoted By: >>12012522

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:51:19 No.12012459 Report

Quoted By: >>12013780

>>12011959
She said in a Kiara way unfortunately by saying she hopes those subs were not pity subs. Like fuck. why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:51:27 No.12012468 Report

Quoted By: >>12012633

>>12011864
They don't have a collab ban. The collab ban actually helps Hololivers.
It forces them to bond as a gen, create their own identity and gives them a second wave of hype when its lifted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:52:18 No.12012521 Report

Quoted By: >>12012647 >>12017690

>>12012216
They didn't recruit Pomu which has the most saviorfag backstory i have ever seen in a chubba

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:52:19 No.12012522 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012446
April 2021, May 2021
July 2021, August 2021
September 2021

no June pic numbers. only list

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:52:44 No.12012545 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011938
She looks mid-tier to me here though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:53:15 No.12012569 Report

Quoted By: >>12012782

>>12012107
>In Koshien
>comparing koshien to fucking UNO or Devour collab
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:53:53 No.12012611 Report

Quoted By:

>>12011363
3 digit views? 2 digit views?!? My eyes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:54:19 No.12012633 Report

Quoted By: >>12012806 >>12012849 >>12012967

>>12012392
Consensus seems like you guys are retards talking in a vacuum, sorry.
>>12012468
Yagoo trained you very well. You literally use the same arguments as redditards. Collab ban is futile and retarded. Thank god I'm not brainwashed by that shit anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:54:27 No.12012647 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012521
Try Subaru

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:54:48 No.12012664 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012407
Why are you on the numbers thread then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:56:04 No.12012729 Report

Quoted By: >>12012890

>>12000599
>I just find it rather weird to believe that HoloEN management, who greenlight'd collabs with males and with VShojo (who is way bigger than NijiEN, mind you), would have any particular issue with a NijiEN x Holo collab
All NijiEN likely needs is to be noticed by a Western audience, and since they are on same platform, boosting them by collabs with Hololive is fucking retarded.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:56:09 No.12012736 Report

Quoted By:

I heard your call

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:56:22 No.12012748 Report

Quoted By:

post more numbers instead of tribal war posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:56:56 No.12012782 Report

Quoted By: >>12012886 >>12012980

>>12012569
>>12012300
>>12012569
why i'm not surprised that the hololive thread don't accept anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:57:19 No.12012803 Report

Quoted By: >>12012905

>>12012407
>numbers thread
>n-no n-numbers dont matter!
Go back to niji if you like midgets you cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:57:27 No.12012806 Report

Quoted By: >>12012905

>>12012633
And you still haven't responded in a meaningful way other than saying you used to watch Hololive. It's all hurr durr I hate Hololive. me watch other vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:58:24 No.12012849 Report

Quoted By: >>12012962 >>12013047

>>12012633
Seethe more. Collab ban is genius because it introduces a second buff for numbers once it's lifted.

People begin theorizing potential interaction and who might have good chemistry in the week leading to the removal of the ban and they get themselves hyped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:59:11 No.12012886 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012782
>SEAmonkey
Yes me think Niji good Holo bad! Uuga booga!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:59:16 No.12012890 Report

Quoted By: >>12013213

>>12012729
the western audience already knows NijiEN. It's mostly the casuals that don't watch anything besides a couple of holos and maybe a vshojo that don't know anything about them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:59:30 No.12012905 Report

Quoted By: >>12013030 >>12013053 >>12013069

>>12012806
I'm sorry that you are a retard who spout the literal same bullshit that every single holofag says. You don't question hololive either because you only care about numbers.
>>12012803
I don't care about nijisanji, I'm a 774 fan.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 00:59:33 No.12012909 Report

Quoted By:

Hewwo, I just wanted to sell merch, please don't be mad at me uwu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:00:42 No.12012962 Report

Quoted By: >>12013192 >>12020890

>>12012849
HMMMM Yagoo's dick looks delicious today. Me only watch holo me not know anything about vtubers outside of hololive. me only watch hololive. UHHHH Big numbers only 10k is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:00:45 No.12012967 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012633
This man looks like a brainwashed person who sees everybody is being brainwashed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:00:59 No.12012980 Report

Quoted By: >>12013149

>>12012782
We are talking about Roboco here that gets 2k on a regular without any buffs like koshien nor collabs. You are qouting a chuuba's number that had a koshien buff. Qoute actual numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:01:58 No.12013030 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012905
i'm a niji fan and I love yagoo more than riku

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:02:12 No.12013047 Report

Quoted By: >>12013250

>>12012849
This only applies to holos, would people really be hyped with all shit you said with other companies and groups?, GEE I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHO WILL COLLAB WITH THE NEW PRISM GEN, MAYBE LUTO????

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:02:14 No.12013053 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012905
>you only care about numbers.
why the fuck are you here then? this is the number thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:02:22 No.12013060 Report

Quoted By: >>12013234 >>12013255 >>12013313 >>12013440

These absolute bottom of the barrel Nijis don’t matter much except I’d be nervous joining a company that will just hang me out to dry if I don’t do well. Hololive featured Mel as part of their Don Quixote campaign. Their plushies included every JP talent even the weaker ones. For the baseball event it was pretty clear their stronger talents got paired up with weaker ones overall. Even spending resources on Stars. It sends the message even if you have lousy numbers you will be supported. Seems like a good way to recruit good talent and retain loyalty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:02:30 No.12013069 Report

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>>12012905
You are hereby tagged as the 774 schizo. I hope your stay in a numbers thread won't give you a heart attach from all your seething

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:04:01 No.12013148 Report

Quoted By: >>12013224

If you ignore Sodapop, Twitch is about as competitive at this hour, though more top hevy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:04:04 No.12013149 Report

Quoted By: >>12013252

>>12012980
There's nothing like Koshien in hololive to compare. But if you want to, you can have Kanzaki playing Otome games with 10k watching it while she was playing with shiishi, kou and mayuzumi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:04:54 No.12013192 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012962
Yagoo best girl!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:05:33 No.12013213 Report

Quoted By: >>12013437

>>12012890
>the western audience already knows NijiEN
Actually, many Westerners don’t know Nijisanji, and given they are on the same platform as Hololive, it would be incredibly retarded to promote NijiEN. Or to want YouTube to recommend them more by noticing crossover collabs. Hololive would have far more to lose than gain. You are thinking within your own bubble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:05:50 No.12013224 Report

Quoted By:

>>12013148
Feel like Twitch is roughly equivalent to old YT numbers in which case HL would be most of that page easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:06:02 No.12013234 Report

Quoted By: >>12013383

>>12013060
It's good to see that you do that without being paid!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:06:20 No.12013250 Report

Quoted By: >>12013285

>>12013047
That's on them for not box pushing effectively.

Holo was the underdog in Niji's shadow for years, but their strategy clearly paid off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:06:23 No.12013252 Report

Quoted By: >>12013365

>>12013149
You are still using collab numbers. Again. Use regular stream numbers Here is Roboco's stats. You can clearly see she gets 2k-3k without collabs https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/roboco

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:06:28 No.12013255 Report

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>>12013060
the koushien event included all the branches in nijisanji, regardless of numbers. Heck they did many different songs in an album featuring different branches as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:07:23 No.12013285 Report

Quoted By: >>12013336 >>12013453

>>12013250
Yes, their strategy of leeching off nijisanji to gain popularity in Japan. Quite amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:07:52 No.12013313 Report

Quoted By: >>12013488

>>12013060
It's pretty unfeasible for them to push every Nijisanji talent considering their strategy is to pump out as many talents as possible.
Reasoning being, why push the 200 view talent when I can just give Sasaki a promo/sponsor and make some money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:08:17 No.12013336 Report

Quoted By: >>12013455

>>12013285
How can you leech your way to the top spot? That doesn’t make a bit of sense. Why can’t Niji leech their way back to number one if it’s that easy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:08:30 No.12013353 Report

Quoted By:

J** where did 774shizo come from

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:08:41 No.12013365 Report

Quoted By:

>>12013252
> But can those niji bottom arranged a collab that get roboco collab numbers?
That was the question. I responded it with two examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:09:04 No.12013383 Report

Quoted By: >>12013427

>>12013234
Shills are to be respected. Even the Selen shill is doing something right to promote his oshi. Enough shills can make anybody incline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:09:53 No.12013427 Report

Quoted By: >>12013538

>>12013383
Kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:10:01 No.12013437 Report

Quoted By: >>12013860

>>12013213
>You are thinking within your own bubble
ironic you say that. Most holos already have 1 million subs, even the new gen that is considered a "flop" is doing good. Just a random collab between kiara and pomu will change nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:10:05 No.12013440 Report

Quoted By:

>>12013060
Niji and Holo don't overlap much. They have their own audience, so it's better to join both companies and whistle your fans to direct their SCs to your fanbox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:10:18 No.12013453 Report

Quoted By: >>12013571

>>12013285
You can't really use Niji when people like Kuzuha collab with a ton of e-celebs. It's really just networking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:10:19 No.12013455 Report

Quoted By: >>12020301

>>12013336
Everyone knows that Hololive leech from Nijisanji between 2018-2019. Look at the ton of collabs they had, the tags they used with nijisanji and much more. The only difference between hololive and nijisanji is that holo wants absolutely dominance and monopoly, which is why they don't allow collabs while nijisanji has been doing it for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:11:01 No.12013488 Report

Quoted By: >>12013645 >>12013688

>>12013313
That’s sort of missing the point. Why have a 200 ccv talent in the first place. Obviously it’s going to be near impossible for a newbie to challenge an established talent with a large fanbase. But if you keep thinking this way you never develop new powerhouses. How long has it been since Niji produced a new 10k vtuber? Multiple 5k vtubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:11:48 No.12013538 Report

Quoted By: >>12013750

>>12013427
You should shill your oshi if you're going to argue in the number thread like the Selenposter.

It's because you're not doing your part that your oshi gets low numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:12:27 No.12013571 Report

Quoted By: >>12013713

>>12013453
Difference is that those are from different industries. You can't be a vtuber fan and act like hololive would even be a state where they are today if Nijisanji acted like hololive and blocked their collabs. Hololive never would have expanded to China and nothing would have happened to the west.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:13:24 No.12013645 Report

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>>12013488
I wasn't saying that's what I would do, I'm just saying that's what it looks like Nijisanji is doing.
At the end of the day both companies are looking to make money, they just have a different strategy in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:14:07 No.12013688 Report

Quoted By: >>12013796 >>12013845 >>12013904

>>12013488
I don't think Anycolor cares as much about this as you think anon. If they cared that much, ID and KR would be dead already and not 2 and 1 year in the market and overall above the average for CCV. Seems like they only care if it's absolutely bottom, like India.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:14:41 No.12013713 Report

Quoted By: >>12013822

>>12013571
Lol. Do you really honestly believe that a regular Nijifan that watches Kuzuha watches Pekora? Are you retarded? Kuzuha's fans will mostly likely watch Hal more than anything. Him playing Apex with e-celebs is him networking with people above him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:15:23 No.12013750 Report

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>>12013538
I dont have an Oshi faggot, i would never want to become a Gosling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:16:00 No.12013780 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012459
Because its Kiara, and her filter is absolute garbage in the way that German/Austrians are. It's very off-putting for those that aren't used to it (Which is most of the rest of the EN speaking world).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:16:27 No.12013796 Report

Quoted By: >>12013967 >>12014137

>>12013688
Well obviously the company think it's good for them.

But what about the talents at the bottom. What do you think they feel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:17:01 No.12013822 Report

Quoted By: >>12013977

>>12013713
I'm not thinking about kuzuha considering at that time he wasn't even that big. Hololive made their name known by doing tons of collabs, so they got a lot of otaku. And ofc the own idol fans from idolbu and that shit. It's not like most of their success was planned, it was a series of coincidences that made it happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:17:37 No.12013845 Report

Quoted By: >>12014063

>>12013688
Without Bora, NijiKR is already looking worse than NijiIN. I think the moment Bora graduates would also be the time they'd cut off that branch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:17:55 No.12013860 Report

Quoted By: >>12014070

>>12013437
>Most holos already have 1 million subs
That is simply proving my point.
>even the new gen that is considered a "flop" is doing good
Not in contrast to Hololive, which is my point. Same platform too, and you don’t want YouTube to associate the groups. VShojo is doing better, and they are on a different platform. You’re just saying what you want, but it’s a bad idea for Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:18:36 No.12013899 Report

Quoted By:

Regardless of leeching or not. Hololive got the position is in thanks to many different extremely specific circumstances, right time at the right place. Not that different from how some of the multi million companies got to where they are. You can't replicate or act like certain dumb decisions are the reason of they are the "number 1". Even nijisanji got hit with the right time at the right place luck and killed the old era of vtubing with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:18:41 No.12013904 Report

Quoted By: >>12014189

>>12013688
Niji also cares about what their chinese stakeholders say. That's why NijiTW was axed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:19:11 No.12013933 Report

Quoted By: >>12014131

>>12012101
Pretty much this, Botan said the 100k was a buff for Holo and she always wondered when was the times she cold say "I earned this", 300k? 500?, finally she settled that yes, the 1M is hers and she can finally say she earned this.

If I'm not mistaken Kiara was whining that she was being very slow in reaching the 1M (I think she was the last?) compared to the rest of EN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:19:50 No.12013967 Report

Quoted By:

>>12013796
Considering how many of them are part time or in there as a hobby while doing other things, it depends. You have people like Hada saying that Nijisanji KR is perfect for her since she can have a good amount of audience and stream whenever she can. Many are like that, just want a platform to stream without having to pay for live 2D, artists and that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:19:57 No.12013977 Report

Quoted By: >>12014379

>>12013822
So you are eating your BS then? You must be fucking blind then to not fucking see all of the cross-events that has occurred that involved Holos with other Chuubas. Or are you just bitter that your 774 isn't' getting a call from Holo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:21:34 No.12014063 Report

Quoted By: >>12014199

>>12013845
? You're crazy. Even without Bora that branch would be completely fine since most of the members are 400-100 CCV. Same for ID. India was in an actual bad situation, with pretty much all of 3 under 50 and the branch never go any new additions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:21:39 No.12014070 Report

Quoted By: >>12014183 >>12014402 >>12014553

>>12013860
You misunderstood my point. I'm saying they already "made it". You simply don't lose your 1 milllion subs cause you did a collab with someone else 1 time. Did kiara lost her entire fanbase to the pink cat? Nope. NijiEN collab changes nothing, at best gives pomu 100 extra subs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:22:45 No.12014131 Report

Quoted By:

>>12013933
>she was the last
and even on twitter verification, chimken is so unlucky

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:22:49 No.12014137 Report

Quoted By: >>12014199 >>12014325

>>12013796
>Well obviously the company think it's good for them
That's what we thought too but then they decided to sack NijiIN out of the blue. The myth that Nijisanji would never graduate anyone due to underperformance was finally proven to be false.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:23:17 No.12014160 Report

Quoted By: >>12014344

>nijisanji discards the unicorn demographic
>whine that it's not fair when hololive steals those viewers and gets boosted by the people they decided they didn't want to pander to

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:23:48 No.12014183 Report

Quoted By: >>12014344

>>12014070
I think it's because of the potential chink spam outrage they can get if they actually do the collab. Chinks hates the EN chuubas. They are only letting NijiEN slide because they are Nijis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:23:55 No.12014189 Report

Quoted By:

>>12013904
Of course they care, otherwise they woulnd't cut out IN. But there's more nuance in those numbers than what we talk about in here. When most of your vtubers are doing fairly above the average in those two branches, you don't have much reason to kill it and still continue to support it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:24:08 No.12014199 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014137
read this >>12014063

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:24:43 No.12014225 Report

Quoted By:

>>12000021
>NijiJP and HoloEN collab
>this helps raise Nijisanji's profile in the west
>NijiJP goes through a renaissance and starts rapidly getting more and more popular
>NijiEN had no part in this
>such unity causes HoloJP and NijiJP to get closer than ever causing both to incline rapidly
>Kuzuha is no longer carrying and shares the burden with many
>most of the worst tribal schizos commit suicide in protest and the less extreme ones reach peace due to unity
>hatred of Cover diminishes from unity
>CCP realize that vtubing and Cover aren't so bad and ease up
>NijiEN is dissolved and all the members are tried and executed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:26:27 No.12014325 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014137
NijiIN was in a complete different situation. Never got any expansion, CCV was much worse, and it goes on. KR and ID have CCV (excluding Bora and Hana who are fairly above) of about 400-100. Only very few do below of that in general. I think KR and ID only ever will have problems if most of them don't have a tangible audience like IN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:26:48 No.12014344 Report

Quoted By: >>12014547

>>12014160
they never had an unicorn demographic to begin with, the first waves already had males.
>>12014183
what do the chinks have anything to do with what I said, you sound like a schizo that thinks chinks kill him at night

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:27:36 No.12014379 Report

Quoted By: >>12014547

>>12013977
Anon both nijisanji and hololive success were coincidences and being at the right place at the right time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:28:15 No.12014402 Report

Quoted By: >>12014553 >>12014584 >>12015006

>>12014070
>I'm saying they already "made it". You simply don't lose your 1 milllion subs cause…
I’m saying that’s exactly why Holo doesn’t need to make Nijisanji more know to their Western audience, especially on the exact same platform, and allowing the YouTube AI to create stronger associations with NijiEN. They already won.
>why VShojo?
VShojo is doing better than NijiEN, and they are on a different platform too. It’s a much smarter move by Cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:31:37 No.12014547 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014344
Chinks is still a problem in Holos. Just watch any collabs that has Fubuki in it. Kiara is one of the many EN chuuba that chinks hate.
>>12014379
So? Does it really matter? Both went viral. One was able to capitalize it better? Both still work together and many platforms. Again. Why are you seething so hard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:31:42 No.12014553 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014402
>>12014070
Vshojo gals have an already established fanbase and are way more talented than NijiEN livers to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:32:23 No.12014584 Report

Quoted By: >>12014720 >>12014728 >>12015100

>>12014402
I see what you mean but this would only be a problem if suddenly every HoloEN wanted to collab with a NijiEN. It literally has to be a forced mega collab like those phase and prism big collabs. Nobody in HoloEN gives a shit about nijien aside from kiara, banning the only person who wants to just have fun with one of her friends just makes your image look worse. Absolute bad pr move, not smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:35:37 No.12014720 Report

Quoted By: >>12014856

>>12014584
>Me sad because I can't collab with a friend in front of many people to show that we are actually friends. Is that really friendship or some sort of show and tell kind of thing, I can't tell the difference. Many Holos don't even say they hang out with several chuubas on the down low

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:35:49 No.12014728 Report

Quoted By: >>12014966 >>12015006

>>12014584
Your whole argument lies on the hypothetical that there ever was a banning in the first place, which is absurd. Stop spreading rrats will you. Shills like you only gives your company a bad pr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:38:55 No.12014856 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014720
That is just kiara being a menhera and not being able to separate friends and work. They still talk in twitter so it isn't like they suddenly stopped being friends or something. Management knows kiara doesn't filter herself, i don't know why they even bother banning her colllabs when they know she'll just spill the beans out of spite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:41:43 No.12014966 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014728
you sound more like a shill to me than him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:41:45 No.12014967 Report

Quoted By: >>12015108

Council really can't survive without Minecraft

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:42:27 No.12015006 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014728
I mean this whole argument >>12014402 relies on cover being super smart for banning these collabs. This thread will die soon so I don't see how some discussion here is giving bad pr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:44:46 No.12015100 Report

Quoted By: >>12015328

>>12014584
Not sure what you mean by “banning”. My point was simply that it’s not in Hololive’s interest for the reasons I gave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:44:51 No.12015108 Report

Quoted By:

>>12014967
It's better than Apex at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:45:23 No.12015130 Report

Quoted By: >>12015245 >>12016155

>>12006802
I remember comparing the entirety of Hololive JP vs the top 10 in Nijisanji JP for May
>Hololive
13k
>Nijisanji
11k

I wonder if that has changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:46:47 No.12015195 Report

Quoted By:

speaking of numbers

https://twitter.com/NinaKosaka/status/1452804411999281159

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:47:57 No.12015245 Report

Quoted By: >>12015488

>>12015130
Median? Average? That doesn’t sound right at all for Niji

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:49:41 No.12015328 Report

Quoted By: >>12015633 >>12015894

>>12015100
I meant that telling chicken to fuck off doesn't change anything since none of the HoloEN wanted to collab with NijiEN anyway. My whole argument is basically this video https://youtu.be/EiUcY4dECqA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:53:06 No.12015488 Report

Quoted By:

>>12015245
Averages for the first half of May, not a great metric. I'm just saying it is a closer comparison if you only use the top 10 nijisanji members but on the flip side the fact I have to use only the top 10 to make it close is telling. I'm just saying a 31 vs 31 fight won't look pretty.

I forgot to write down the names
21982
19737
11931
10615
9751
8592
8318
7820
7681
6969

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:56:57 No.12015633 Report

Quoted By: >>12015702 >>12016160

>>12015328
At least it sends a message to chicken to focus more on self-improvement rather than saviorfagging these leeches. Saves everyone the trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 01:58:50 No.12015702 Report

Quoted By: >>12016084

>>12015633
no one outside of pomu wants to collab with holo anyway. Well maybe selen with ollie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:02:51 No.12015894 Report

Quoted By: >>12016084 >>12016160 >>12016312 >>12016603

>>12015328
Besides explaining my reasoning for why Hololive wouldn’t want to collab with NijiEN, I’m going to explain one more thing: The real reason VTubers pretend to like Kiara outside of Hololive, is because she is the ticket inside it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:05:59 No.12016084 Report

Quoted By: >>12016110

>>12015702
DYRBI?

>>12015894
Add Ollie in that list too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:06:32 No.12016110 Report

Quoted By:

>>12016084
>Add Ollie in that list too.
Yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:07:28 No.12016155 Report

Quoted By: >>12016312

>>12015130
It should be Top10 of HoloJP vs Top10 of NijiJP for a much fair comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:07:39 No.12016160 Report

Quoted By: >>12016502 >>12017834

>>12015633
>>12015894
can't believe Pomu was pulling some 4D chess with kiara all along, she stole too many viewers from kiara, can't make it to 3k anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:10:31 No.12016312 Report

Quoted By:

>>12015894
That makes me feel bad. I hope some like her for real. I support the Pomu/Kiara collab since I think they do really like each other. Naked grifting is just unsavory.
>>12016155
The point was that Nijisanji doesn't win when I make it lopsided in their favor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:10:37 No.12016320 Report

Quoted By: >>12016557

>>12005670
Did the inclusion of Irys + Council increase HoloENs average or lower it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:11:36 No.12016377 Report

Quoted By: >>12016539 >>12018306

NEW hololive APP
>1 MILLION DOWNLOADS
>100k REVIEWS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:11:53 No.12016395 Report

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lol
this is why you take pictures

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:14:08 No.12016502 Report

Quoted By:

>>12016160
Pomu's main content is literally pandering to saviorfags. Just you wait and she'll have another surgery stream for her remaining boob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:15:04 No.12016539 Report

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>>12016377
Anon...BanG Dream! has existed for several years already...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:15:22 No.12016557 Report

Quoted By: >>12016735 >>12016809

>>12016320
they are basically back to where they were before irys, so it was just a temporal buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:16:22 No.12016603 Report

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>>12015894
I've been parroting it from the very beginning, that there's no benefit collabing with low performing chuubas. hololive ain't a charity

chicken should ignore the guilt-trip from outsiders, and should not be pressured by redditfags, just as how Ame was pressured to 'inherit' whatever bullshit coco left

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:19:04 No.12016728 Report

Quoted By: >>12016849 >>12016861

I love how you guys think kiara is a buff to aynone when she can't even keep engaged her own subs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:19:08 No.12016735 Report

Quoted By: >>12016809 >>12016885

>>12016557
Yes, but that's with +5 chubbas, so its actually a pretty good gain in overall viewership for HoloEN. It's something that really can't be reflected in these charts though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:20:47 No.12016809 Report

Quoted By: >>12016966

>>12016557
>>12016735
not a stats guy but doesn't that mean hololive's audience grew?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:21:36 No.12016849 Report

Quoted By:

>>12016728
She won't. It's dramafagging at it's finest. Nothing will happen due to the collab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:21:47 No.12016861 Report

Quoted By: >>12016964 >>12017112

>>12016728
It’s explained that Kiara and Ollie are access.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:22:18 No.12016885 Report

Quoted By: >>12017046

>>12016735
the average didn't really increase and viewership for council could keep dropping without the minecraft buff so it's expected for the average to drop lower

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:24:23 No.12016964 Report

Quoted By: >>12017099

>>12016861
can't believe pink cat and all the e-celebs from ollie has full access to hololive, they totally changed everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:24:27 No.12016966 Report

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>>12016809
If the average stays close to where it was, but you've added a bunch of people, yes. You've increased either audience retention/watchtime, or increased your total audience pool prior to the addition, or both.
On the other hand, if you add a bunch of new talents but lose quote a bit %-wise in your audience, it means there's less growth and more internal cannibalization of your audience. That's BAD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:26:13 No.12017046 Report

Quoted By: >>12017329

>>12016885
Of course. It could also stabilize, so we'll have to see how things go over the next few months, but so far it definitely looks positive (but that's only off of 2 and a half months of data)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:27:32 No.12017099 Report

Quoted By: >>12017280 >>12017329

>>12016964
I think it went over your head. Its like asking yourself why those two are liked in particular, with so many others out there to choose from, then pretending it doesn’t at all relate to their behavior so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:27:52 No.12017112 Report

Quoted By:

>>12016861
don't remind me of how retarded management was for stopping Ollie from continuing to have holoID collab with Connor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:29:44 No.12017202 Report

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>>11996274
NTA, but as someone who used to follow Roosterteeth / Achievement Hunter, this checks out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:31:27 No.12017280 Report

Quoted By: >>12017585

>>12017099
They show willingness to respond. Why talk to people who won't even acknowledge you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:32:35 No.12017329 Report

Quoted By: >>12017585

>>12017046
Yeah I know it looks positive NOW but my comment was based on the possibility it keeps dropping which may happen based on how the average has been on dropping lately
>>12017099
cause they reply to people on twitter and aren't afraid to reach out, mori and other few members dos the same but your argument falls if i mention them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:37:59 No.12017567 Report

Quoted By:

>>11998426
Truly alone at the top

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:38:17 No.12017585 Report

Quoted By: >>12017835 >>12017951

>>12017280
>>12017329
A 2view would not be appreciated to the same degree. Kiara as being someone in Hololive, is a more meaningful connection to people.

Also Connor and others were bothered by how walled off Hololive is, particularly because they found their audiences to be interested in it. They wanted better access to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:40:35 No.12017687 Report

Quoted By:

>>11999213
Now that you mention it, do you think Nov will be AC month for Hololive?
They just drop a tons of update to the game, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:40:39 No.12017690 Report

Quoted By:

>>12012216
Impossible to scout for. A great idol(hero) journey only pays off after months or even years of struggle. Miko, Suisei, and Sora probably has the best and clearest narratives. Botan's 1M remarks show a variation. Pekomoona is another great one though its more of a personal transformation, although Pekora was the Gen 3 runt of the litter too. And other holos and chuubas can lay claim to their own.
>>12012521
Being pitybait isn't a journey. Saviorfags don't really appear in the stories featured above. Just shitty/closed beginnings, hard work to overcome, and an encounter or stroke of luck that verges on magical. Pomu has the shitty beginning already, seems to be working hard, now her audience is waiting if she can encounter the third while keeping her alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:44:16 No.12017834 Report

Quoted By: >>12018070

>>12016160
Did Pomu announce her cancer out of nowhere or due to someone asking? I feel like that kind of shit is usually kept under wraps unless its something that affects how they are currently streaming, like Rushia having to cancel because she feels unwell or Ironmouse who can't off-collab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:44:20 No.12017835 Report

Quoted By: >>12018281

>>12017585
>A 2view would not be appreciated to the same degree.
Because they have no exposure. everyone knows who Kiara is.
>Connor
He's a grifter and a faggot. Pomu isn't on that level.

Kiara gets talked about since she's willing to engage with the community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:45:21 No.12017876 Report

Quoted By: >>12018163

I was wondering why Mumei kept getting cucked from reaching 10k. Ame was streaming minecraft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:47:10 No.12017951 Report

Quoted By: >>12018117

>>12017585
>Connor and others were bothered by how walled off Hololive is
just means rpr was more brand-friendly, than him

and why be salty, Sykkuno have yet to score one, even with endorsement from OTV&F (last year and after new outfit reveal)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:49:41 No.12018070 Report

Quoted By:

>>12017834
she announced it before the surgery so people knew why she was absent, if you mean her previous life, now that is a can of worms i'm not opening

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:50:28 No.12018117 Report

Quoted By: >>12018309

>>12017951
The big difference being that rpr has been trying to get his audience to understand vtubers and get them to like them while all connor wants is an in into hololive to boost his own numbers.
there was a segment on their podcast where they talked about leaning more nijisanji these days and implied its because hololivers wont talk to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:51:33 No.12018163 Report

Quoted By:

>>12017876
this is her 3rd stream of the same game. I'm surprised she's even getting 8.5k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:52:20 No.12018201 Report

Quoted By: >>12018595

>>11996674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QssUB54c2iA
I'm pretty sure she inclined because of this cover. Deadbeats always like their small vtubers covering Mori's songs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:53:49 No.12018281 Report

Quoted By:

>>12017835
>everyone knows who Kiara is
Right. I don’t think you understand me? It’s like how big YouTubers tend to reinforce their positions by connections with other big YouTubers, not because they don’t know any smaller ones, but because it creates a safety net for them and strengthens their current position. This doesn’t mean I’m saying Kiara is a big YouTuber, rather I’m explaining something more for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:54:34 No.12018306 Report

Quoted By:

>>12016377
Bang Dream exists for years you absolute retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:54:38 No.12018309 Report

Quoted By: >>12018414 >>12018574 >>12018784 >>12018844 >>12018930 >>12019785

>>12018117
Connor sounds like he's more interested in the collab opportunities anyways rather than Hololive as a whole. Just reeks of oppotunistic BS. Joey also has hate bone for Holos. He went on a rant talking about Nene and her getting into a list of about online women. Even his fans can't buy his BS https://youtu.be/Q5ZHcqBumPc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:55:22 No.12018339 Report

Quoted By:

>>12004419
I'd give that to Pochi desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:56:53 No.12018414 Report

Quoted By:

>>12018309
Kek, everyone in his comments calling him out for being a clueless boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 02:59:46 No.12018574 Report

Quoted By: >>12018767 >>12018911

>>12018309
Anitubers are such faggots. I can respect a 2view streamer but something about a grown man talking about anime shit on youtube makes me think so little of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:00:18 No.12018595 Report

Quoted By:

>>12018201
This could hit the Bogey Voxx route. I would be glad if Calli promotes this, great rendition

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:02:58 No.12018767 Report

Quoted By:

>>12018574
All this really shows is that they were in the right from walling themselves off from e-celebs like this.
Stop giving them attention and they start attacking the people they wanted attention from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:03:14 No.12018784 Report

Quoted By: >>12018959 >>12019116 >>12019134 >>12019566 >>12020399

>>12018309
maybe i'm being a schizo but it seems like the trash taste guys are low-key spreading misinformations and hate to the holos, they keep comparing the idol industry to hololive's "idol" schtick like it's the same and it's a nightmare there, and keep mentioning that they prefer nijisanji and vshojo, kinda weird when just a year ago they leech hard to holos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:04:14 No.12018844 Report

Quoted By: >>12019229

>>12018309
Streamers see all interactions as renown boosts or networking opportunities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:05:13 No.12018911 Report

Quoted By:

>>12018574
True that. It's precisely why I abhor male vtubers. Just drop all the larping and stream like a proper human being. It just reeks faggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:05:37 No.12018930 Report

Quoted By:

>>12018309
lol the salt is real, why are they so adamant in burning bridges

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:05:56 No.12018959 Report

Quoted By: >>12019204

>>12018784
This is how you see if people are actually befriending you because they want to be friends or because they just want the access to larger pool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:07:39 No.12019116 Report

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>>12018784
It turns out, the schizo hate about TTxMori ain't that unfounded afterall. These people will turn on you once they realize they can't benefit from you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:07:52 No.12019134 Report

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>>12018784
Iirc Connor brought up Hololive in a negative manner to mousey on her radio show stream and she basically told him to drop the subject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:08:43 No.12019204 Report

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>>12018959
That's a disadvantage to being popular. Not everyone wants to be your friend because they want to be friends. Always there is something deep reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:09:08 No.12019229 Report

Quoted By: >>12019386

>>12018844
Some have more tact than others

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:11:19 No.12019386 Report

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>>12019229
Shit just look at rpr who was already mentioned.
Pretty well liked dude even on this schizo shithole of a board. Was known as a huge towa fan and apex pro, collabed with her and made a good impression on the community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:13:52 No.12019566 Report

Quoted By: >>12019729 >>12019813 >>12020399

>>12018784
you know what's also weird? he said in his videos that he's more of a nijisanji fan, but he never liked any niji fanart on twitter, instead he often liked okayu and marine lewd fanarts. Based, but he's sending mixed messages here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:15:17 No.12019671 Report

Quoted By:

>>12005704
>HoloLive TW will eventually come out
How do you think Zhang will react?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:15:56 No.12019729 Report

Quoted By:

>>12019566
He’s just upset they won’t talk or collab with him.
His videos don’t really get many views anymore and the only thing keeping him relevant is the podcast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:16:45 No.12019785 Report

Quoted By: >>12020040

>>12018309
Say what you will about Connor but at least he's consistent in that all he cares about Vtubers is the content and the collabs

Garnt and Joey quickly changed their tunes by the time the Trash Taste episode ended and accordingly "Calli was no longer allowed in TT"; which I can only assume is because Joey pushed for more collabs outside the one-of interview (He had a video immediately after the TT episode where he judged Calli's myanimelist list iirc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:17:07 No.12019813 Report

Quoted By: >>12020399

>>12019566
Bunch of people bought the "Niji is so much better, it doesnt have idols and they have more freedom" all while sucking Cover's tits and never actually watching a single Liver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:20:38 No.12020040 Report

Quoted By: >>12020352 >>12020426 >>12020725

>>12019785
Hell, the episode before the Mori one Connor was basically calling Cover a black company without doing a shred of research.
Mori collab happens.
Then sometime after that Connor says Cover is forbidding anymore TT appearances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:22:57 No.12020186 Report

Quoted By:

To add on the Joey shitpile, don't forget the fact that before he sucked on cover's titties, he also sucked on Kizuna Ai's titties back in her peak era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:24:20 No.12020301 Report

Quoted By: >>12020619 >>12020716 >>12020795

>>12013455
>not collabing with niji
My personal rrat was that both companies were good friends, rivals in the vtuber scenes and had a lot of collabs with each other. Both of them were steadily growing in the year of 2019/2020 and found that helping each other out was good for the scene. Hololive suddenly gaining a boost after april was a small unexpected red flag for niji. So behind every mask, they must've felt pressured to have a competitor now and not a monopoly after Sony M invested millions into them.

After the events of Aloe's dox, Niji started doing rounds of announcing that they'll take care the safety of their talents more was one bad flag for Cover. The second one was the Holocaust where companies bailed out on them. The final one was the taiwan yabe. All friendly appearances between the two companies was dropped and no collabs between each other was seen for weeks after the event (Except for Suisei/Toko, those two are unityfags). Anykara just left them to the wolves. Little did they know, the EN branch was a huge bomb in the industry that buffed all the branches. Hololive Moments being the scapegoat to start the clipper era and cement their grounds on YT's algorithm.

After what has happened, it's cool that Cover is not giving any bone to NijiEN and they should keep at it. Just maintain what they have now, focus on stars and no fuckups. Sony or any JP vtuber branch would saturate the JP market even further, killing Niji and their ability to hire decent talents in a few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:25:04 No.12020352 Report

Quoted By: >>12020450

>>12020040
Cover being so insecure basically proves them right, this is poor PR for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:25:47 No.12020399 Report

Quoted By: >>12020507

>>12019813
>>12019566
>>12018784
they don't give a fuck about nijisanji. anime man even said that most of kuzuha fans are women. Don't worry holofags, they also spread misinformation about nijisanji. the thing is that they do that same shit as anitubers so that's normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:26:12 No.12020426 Report

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>>12020040
>Then sometime after that Connor says Cover is forbidding anymore TT appearances.
welp if true, they are the reason themselves 'collab' ain't happening. and they dare blame it to holo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:26:47 No.12020450 Report

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>>12020352
the PR schizo is awake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:27:53 No.12020507 Report

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>>12020399
Anitubers being wrong about things? I’m shocked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:29:46 No.12020619 Report

Quoted By: >>12020721

>>12020301
Amamiya/Choco, Shiina/Okayu, Bora/Towa, Polka/Himawari just last week, there's lots of collabs out there. Not as much as before but still a lot more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:31:30 No.12020716 Report

Quoted By:

>>12020301
I think any reasonable person would have thought the laundry list of yabs in a row would’ve killed them.
They just got extremely lucky at the perfect time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:31:31 No.12020721 Report

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>>12020619
The frequency of it definitely dropped a lot after Taiwan. Of course, anyone who watches streams will know that the livers/chuubas say that it's because they're busy and it's hard to get schedules to match up so it's not like there's no reason given in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:31:37 No.12020725 Report

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>>12020040
Isn't that their own fault? You don't badmouth your potential collab partner, it's basic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:32:31 No.12020795 Report

Quoted By:

>>12020301
Kiara never said WHICH management said no, it could very well be Nijisanji's who shot down the collab

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 03:33:53 No.12020890 Report

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>>12012962
Look at the nijiniggers seething

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