>>12386644you need to clearly define what count as a western male chuuba
if it's
>just using a modelthen it's pewdiepie, sodapoppin or cdwagva
but then people bitch about bandwagoning
>just using a model and having a large communitythen it's AdmiralBahroo
but then people bitch about him being 10k+ twitch partner before
>just using a model and building a communitythen it's Takahata or Merry
but then people bitch about them being prior content creators
>just using a model, building a community without prior community establishmentthen it's Shxtou or Ais
but then people bitch about them being talented voice actors and voice overs
>just using a model, building a community without prior community, starting from scratchthen it's Kitty McPancakes, BungoTaiga, Random
but then people bitch about them have a lot of money and buying their way to success
>just using a model, building a community without prior community, starting from scratch without a lot of money then it would Kabhaal or Papifubar or PorcelainMaid
but then people bitch about them just being dudebro streams who use an avatar
