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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:20:17 No.13656292 View View Reply Original Report

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Previous thread
>>13642809

This is the numbers thread, back your shit up with numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:21:07 No.13656329 Report

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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:32:10 No.13656659 Report

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http://poal.me/1fn9va
veto

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:33:29 No.13656698 Report

Quoted By: >>13656964 >>13657074 >>13657413

Yesterday's superchats, top should've been Mahiro with ~$14.3k but Playboard seems to hate Niji 3Ds. Doxmates I kneel...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:36:37 No.13656794 Report

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Let's see how high Subaru can go with this scene

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:39:14 No.13656871 Report

Quoted By: >>13656918 >>13656955

Why does Mori get the same amount of views on her gaming content as Ame? Am I living in some sort of clown world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:41:01 No.13656918 Report

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>>13656871
Pokemon is a buff game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:42:35 No.13656955 Report

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>>13656871
Pokemon, on the right mindset, is a buff game. That's why Pekora, Subaru and Fubuki can do great stuff and Mori, while not at their level, has enough to be entretaining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:42:49 No.13656964 Report

Quoted By: >>13656997 >>13657018 >>13657095

>>13656698
Why did Watame get so many superchats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:43:53 No.13656997 Report

Quoted By: >>13657086 >>13657526

>>13656964
doxxmates fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:44:29 No.13657018 Report

Quoted By: >>13657086

>>13656964
It's her real birthday

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:46:10 No.13657074 Report

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>>13656698
Wow, the new Holo Gen 6 is a total failure. Laplus has 167k viewers but didn't even make the top superchat list. So so bad and it doesn't spell good things for the new generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:46:31 No.13657086 Report

Quoted By: >>13657112 >>13657417 >>13658479

>>13656997
>>13657018
Wouldn't anyone who knows Watames real birthday also know she's already married?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:46:39 No.13657095 Report

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>>13656964
https://youtu.be/G9SWOk2J6aw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:47:16 No.13657112 Report

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>>13657086
Yeah to me

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:48:04 No.13657139 Report

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Most likely peaked. Opening scene over now. Still a good showing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:50:45 No.13657211 Report

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>>13656802
Be cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:51:48 No.13657242 Report

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To that guy last thread who pointed out that Saya weather girl's clips are still going viral, it seems like she's stuck in a similar algorithm trap as hololive is. I looked up that original video that went viral and now my recommendations is filled with her clips

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:54:23 No.13657324 Report

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>>13656292
Damn opening niji mado disgust me, no 10k stream and there's someone behind gwelu line, meanwhile holos can get 30k + 20k during afternoon stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:57:19 No.13657413 Report

Quoted By: >>13657486 >>13657546 >>13662393

>>13656698
November so far
>kson - $93,475
>Lamy - $92,795
>Rushia - $83,340
>Noel - $55,542
>Kuzuha - $48,907
>Marine - $45,183
>Miko - $44,866
>Mori - $44,693
>Flare - $41,256
>Pekora - $39,705
>Fuwa - $37,481
>Watame - $35,516
>Kanata - $33,271
>Ibrahim - $32,733
>Kiara - $32,025

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:57:21 No.13657417 Report

Quoted By: >>13657639

>>13657086
Should head back to global, schizo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 06:59:07 No.13657486 Report

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>>13657413
Damn, in addition to inclining hard this year Miko has also stepped up her superchat game pretty hard. I guess 35p decided to open their wallets a little bit more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:00:05 No.13657526 Report

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>>13656997
Unavoidable when a video of you dancing has over a million views.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:00:37 No.13657546 Report

Quoted By: >>13657767 >>13658303

>>13657413
Impressive. Kson also gets the full amount after Youtubes cut so she's getting twice what Lamy gets in the pocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:02:10 No.13657587 Report

Quoted By: >>13657748

I doubt the bird will even break 100k
Her design is fucking shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:02:41 No.13657598 Report

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At 5 hourrs of Lui's debut. 1.974 people are in the waiting room.
I still think she can break the 100k but is not as good sign so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:03:53 No.13657637 Report

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>>13656507
Can you show all the HoloEN numbers? just wanted to see who is inclining/reclining among them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:03:59 No.13657639 Report

Quoted By: >>13657873

>>13657417
No he's here because if he posted that in global he'd take a vacation

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:04:14 No.13657649 Report

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This is the numbers thread but I can't measure in numbers how much I love IRyS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:05:08 No.13657678 Report

Quoted By: >>13657777

She won't get 100k

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:06:22 No.13657719 Report

Quoted By: >>13657803 >>13658853

>Brag about the fastest 300K in chuuba history
She is perfect number bros
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1464474603296751621?t=c4ysrfhNsRLk5EOJ2z9fHw&s=19

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:06:39 No.13657735 Report

Quoted By: >>13657841

She will get 100k rather easily if she has something prepared like La+.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:06:59 No.13657748 Report

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>>13657587
Lose the hair wing and her design would be less disgusting to look at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:07:27 No.13657767 Report

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>>13657546
This is better for her since she was getting very little sponsorships in Holo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:07:45 No.13657777 Report

Quoted By: >>13658296

>>13657678
I'd feel bad for her if she doesn't. Laplus has set such a high bar less than 100k would be seen as a failure now.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:08:37 No.13657803 Report

Quoted By: >>13657983 >>13658065

>>13657719

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:08:53 No.13657813 Report

Quoted By: >>13658044

wont the debut only be 10 minutes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:10:06 No.13657841 Report

Quoted By: >>13661287

>>13657735
She have a video to premier 15 minutes after the hour, if she does that time in her debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkCPkLmU7l4
The most likely thing is a cover song or a original song but who knows. It shows she's prepared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:10:59 No.13657873 Report

Quoted By: >>13658279

>>13657639
Uh oh it's gone now, looks like they're gonna be taking a vacation regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:14:32 No.13657983 Report

Quoted By: >>13658052

>>13657803
This was in response to Miko bullying him. Migo is too powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:16:23 No.13658044 Report

Quoted By: >>13658462

>>13657813
Yesterday's 30 minute debut was not what planned by management, it's just her being a lazy fuck and only prepare it for the last 4 days, she doesn't know what to do to fill them. Manager kept telling her to fill it as she streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:16:35 No.13658052 Report

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>>13657983
he did call her the protagonist of hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:16:59 No.13658065 Report

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>>13657803
Jii-sanchads…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:23:47 No.13658279 Report

Quoted By: >>13658445

>>13657873
Meidos actually doing work outside of global? What is this, clown world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:24:12 No.13658296 Report

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>>13657777
I can't see any of them getting less than 100k unless it was after multiple bombed debuts. HL is too strong now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:24:24 No.13658303 Report

Quoted By: >>13658871 >>13659767

>>13657546
>twice
I thought she still need to pay burger tax? Also Lamy renegotiated her cut so her cut is not 50:50.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:28:35 No.13658445 Report

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>>13658279
>Implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:28:55 No.13658456 Report

Quoted By: >>13658571 >>13658629 >>13658637 >>13658641 >>13658673 >>13659894 >>13663968

Since Cover has all the neccessary metrics, does anyone think that HoloJP girls has stopped pandering to EOPs because management has shown them a decline in audience in that market?

This is probably why Cover is pushing for more Japanese presence while reducing their foreign output. Even 3D events of foreign branches are put in the backburner to accomodate Gen 6. Cover is definitely surprised at the reception Gen 6 gets for sure.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:29:00 No.13658462 Report

Quoted By: >>13658515 >>13658667 >>13658999 >>13659162

>>13658044
>told manager she'll only debut for 10minutes
>Mane said no 4days before debut
>prepare more material in that short 4day for maximum kino 30 minutes debut
>mane said no again, it has to be 1hr
>said fuck mane and went with 30m maximum kino
>broke ccv debut record
>make nijinigger seethe hard
>later compromise an hour of after debut zatsudan
>30m kino banter and 30m maximun shill for her genmates
>broke another record as fastest 300k subs chuuba
She is too strong bros.. the real Gura killer
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:29:43 No.13658479 Report

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>>13657086
Weird, it's common knowledge Watame's roommate is married, why are the jannies so sensitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:31:02 No.13658515 Report

Quoted By: >>13658559 >>13658623 >>13658702 >>13658722 >>13658781 >>13658795

>>13658462
This is crazy but the hype will get her to 1M for sure. After that, who knows what will happen. Can she beat both Mori and Pekora to 2M?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:32:59 No.13658559 Report

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>>13658515
Don't get too ahead of yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:33:19 No.13658571 Report

Quoted By: >>13659015

>>13658456
Kek is this from the voices on your head anon? mind sharing the rest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:34:59 No.13658623 Report

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>>13658515
>Can she beat both Mori and Pekora to 2M
Lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:35:17 No.13658629 Report

Quoted By: >>13659015

>>13658456
Take your meds, anon. You need them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:35:31 No.13658637 Report

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>>13658456
>does anyone think that HoloJP girls has stopped pandering to EOPs
No. What do you even consider pandering? Subaru and Flare still translate things for EOPs, Watame and Polka still do English subtitles on their music, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:35:55 No.13658641 Report

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>>13658456
numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:36:43 No.13658667 Report

Quoted By: >>13658795

>>13658462
> is an fps fag
> wants to do a lot of vod content
> will be a 5k streamer tops in a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:36:54 No.13658673 Report

Quoted By: >>13658784

>>13658456
You are a dumbass. The HoloJP girls have stopped pandering to EOPs so much because there is an actual EN branch now. I can guarantee you that EN has exceeded any expectation that Cover ever had for it. Its success has been overwhelming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:37:41 No.13658702 Report

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>>13658515
>Can she beat both Mori and Pekora to 2M?
That is asking a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:38:12 No.13658722 Report

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>>13658515
Not going to happen in this age of harsh subs purging

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:38:29 No.13658731 Report

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Dudes...
It's a fucking ENschizo and you just have him 5 (you)s.
This is why they'll never leave the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:39:50 No.13658781 Report

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>>13658515
No. Depending on how things play out she could have some really good growth, but that's not reasonable. It's more difficult to have growth like Gura did in the JP market simply due to the size of it and one day isn't enough to figure out any sort of trend. Also her gen-mates could eat up some of that hype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:39:58 No.13658784 Report

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>>13658673
>the HoloJP girls have stopped pandering to EOPs so much
No wonder they're falling behind, this is the age of bilingual chuubas and anyone who can't speak English is going to lose out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:40:03 No.13658786 Report

Quoted By: >>13658826 >>13658833

So, whatever happened to Hal's merise thing? Last I heard he was putting together a team but that was like a month ago, any updates since then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:40:27 No.13658795 Report

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>>13658515
Yes
>>13658667
She WILL be the new king and mogu silverboi from his seat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:41:29 No.13658826 Report

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>>13658786
Heard Uto is planning on joining them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:41:43 No.13658833 Report

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>>13658786
Shit takes time, and he's going to sift through a lot of crap to find worthwhile people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:42:18 No.13658853 Report

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>>13657719
Gura killer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:42:38 No.13658864 Report

Quoted By: >>13659026 >>13659261 >>13659303 >>13659389

https://gamebiz.jp/news/337914

The line outside are actually there to watch holos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:42:54 No.13658871 Report

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>>13658303
Not that anon, but I don't think she has that tax anymore and hasn't for a while. That being said if she is making more than she was before, that extra is getting taxed anyway even if she's not getting doubled by the burger tax so it's still not going to be double take-home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:45:19 No.13658926 Report

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Hinotoribros how's the view looking?
1m in 1week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:47:50 No.13658999 Report

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>>13658462
>actually sang children song during her debut
ToT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:48:14 No.13659015 Report

Quoted By: >>13659190 >>13659249

>>13658571
>>13658629
This is the numbers thread globalfags, we can see EN has quantifiably declined this year compared to JP which is at record highs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:48:36 No.13659026 Report

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>>13658864
>Shien cosplayer
Now I have seen everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:51:08 No.13659118 Report

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Can anyone at least show both Oct-Nov graph of HoloEN? This ENschizo is pretty hilarious, cant even provide proof

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:52:29 No.13659162 Report

Quoted By: >>13660034

>>13658462
You are praising her, but you actually better praise her manager. Having a 10' debut would have made her DOA even with cunny buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:53:28 No.13659189 Report

Quoted By: >>13659403 >>13659648 >>13659745

Are there any contenders for silver today?
Highest so far is Pekora with 37.5k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:53:28 No.13659190 Report

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>>13659015
Kek out of all the fags that can live rent free inside your head, it's a retarded globalfags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:55:10 No.13659249 Report

Quoted By: >>13659430 >>13660385 >>13660542

>>13659015
>Most subbed Holomem is an EN
>2nd Most subbed Holomem is an EN
>Most viewed original song is an EN song
>Most AVG VOD views belong to an EN member
>First generation to ever have all its members at 1M subs is an EN gen
>The fastest songs to reach 1M views are all EN songs
>Highest CCV stream in Hololive history (non-graduation) is an EN stream
I don't know man, EN seems to hold all the records. From my point of view it looks like Cover should invest more into EN and less into JP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:55:36 No.13659261 Report

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>>13658864
nijien bros.........

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:56:27 No.13659292 Report

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Duke it out in your discord or some shit you faggots

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:56:39 No.13659303 Report

Quoted By: >>13662205

>>13658864
So this is the power of hololive

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:58:35 No.13659389 Report

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>>13658864
based koronesuki

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:58:49 No.13659403 Report

Quoted By: >>13659670

>>13659189
disneyland collab shiraken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 07:59:26 No.13659430 Report

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>>13659249
Don't feed the ENschizo anon, I'm pretty sure he will nit pick streams and bullshit claims to fit his narrative

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:03:18 No.13659560 Report

Quoted By: >>13659588 >>13659625 >>13659652

No actual sane person thinks that either JP and EN are dying to such a point that they'll have to mass graduate.
I know not having any actual competitors in terms of numbers for now makes things boring but could you stop attacking one of your own for once?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:04:20 No.13659588 Report

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>>13659560
It will stop once people learn how to stop biting bait
So you know, never ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:04:48 No.13659604 Report

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Bird has 2.4k waiting with 4 hours till stream. I don't know how many cunny had at this time, but she had 2.6k waiting at 6 hours prior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:05:39 No.13659625 Report

Quoted By: >>13659771 >>13659863 >>13660546

>>13659560
JP isn't declining so far that they have to graduate, that's retarded falseflagging from the ENschizo, but they've definitely been left behind by EN who are holding the record for every metric you'd care to investigate and seem more fitting to be called the main branch nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:06:06 No.13659648 Report

Quoted By: >>13659701 >>13659707 >>13659709

>>13659189
La**us with with 55k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:06:09 No.13659652 Report

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>>13659560
You think the schizos are Holofans?

They always sperg out whenever Niji is losing, they're clearly a Nijifag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:06:47 No.13659670 Report

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>>13659403
4 PoV so probably not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:07:45 No.13659701 Report

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>>13659648
the zatsudan will be on bird's channel, but she will be there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:07:57 No.13659707 Report

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>>13659648
that was counted yesterday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:07:59 No.13659709 Report

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>>13659648
That went on yesterdays list since she started 30 seconds or something before midnight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:09:15 No.13659745 Report

Quoted By: >>13659811

>>13659189
Pekora will probably take bronze from now till the end of the month, with gold and silver being the gen 6 debut and gen 6 post-debut zatsudans respectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:09:18 No.13659746 Report

Quoted By: >>13659816 >>13659848 >>13659849 >>13659893 >>13659955 >>13660060

Is it just me or are people severely overestimating La+' and gen 6's numbers for the future? We already had this song and dance before with gen 5. Most of them had record breaking debut ccv numbers and pre debut subs but all that shit didn't matter since all of them are just more or less average holos in terms of numbers. I feel like they're all going to smash 600k since the amount of holofans have increased but then they'll normalize there unless their content is increadibly special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:09:59 No.13659767 Report

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>>13658303
Why would she, she lives in japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:10:06 No.13659771 Report

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>>13659625
JP will always be the main branch, or a more befitting name, the roots, of Hololive, as they started there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:11:15 No.13659811 Report

Quoted By: >>13661695

>>13659745
She can take a month rest at least, now that the concert is out of the way
I miss her storytime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:11:21 No.13659816 Report

Quoted By: >>13659856

>>13659746
What matters is that another gen of "just average holos" that doesn't detract from the viewership of the existing girls, is showing yet another expansion of Hololive's footprint in the industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:12:13 No.13659848 Report

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>>13659746
Most people aren't being serious. The rest are retards. Best to ignore most of what's being said about gen 6 numbers until things settle down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:12:13 No.13659849 Report

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>>13659746
What else is new from the people that keep insisting gen 5 AREN'T a bunch of mediocrities that were overhyped? Gen 5 having big numbers for debuts but getting mogged badly by Myth just a couple months later despite the latter's lower debut numbers is still the most satisfying turnabout that can happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:12:33 No.13659856 Report

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>>13659816
This, as long as they don't actually drag the others down as deadweights like Nijis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:12:46 No.13659863 Report

Quoted By: >>13659928

>>13659625
Highest CCV average?
Highest SC?
Highest Watch hours?
More Sponsorship?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:13:19 No.13659878 Report

Quoted By: >>13660223 >>13660562 >>13661533

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:13:29 No.13659884 Report

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Oh gen 5 schizo is here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:13:52 No.13659893 Report

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>>13659746
I will consider her a failure unless she can keep a median of 50k for December, January and February. If she has a median below 20k in any of those months she should just graduate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:13:54 No.13659894 Report

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>>13658456
>3D events of foreign branches are put in the backburner to accomodate Gen 6
This is where you expose your propaganda, faggot
Foreigners are having issues getting in the country, they probably have to spend 14 days in quarantine doing nothing inside a hotel room before going into public.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:14:35 No.13659928 Report

Quoted By: >>13659988 >>13660065

>>13659863
roots =/= main, Playstation started in Japan but found way more success overseas and now the main, more famous, more profitable, more successful branch is in America. Same thing's happening with Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:14:37 No.13659929 Report

Quoted By: >>13660021

Gonna throw this out there, Ollie has 3.7k listeners on her Twitter space. It was probably higher when Mori was there but I unfortunately didn't check at the time. For perspective, she hasn't had a stream that was 3.7k or higher in about a month. Makes me wonder, if a HoloEN also made a space, would they also see higher than average numbers? Or maybe this is unique to Ollie due to her social media influence and connections being disproportional to her viewership?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:15:24 No.13659955 Report

Quoted By: >>13660094 >>13660238

>>13659746
She seems to care for numbers so i'm expecting the same attitude as Pekora towards streaming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:16:30 No.13659988 Report

Quoted By: >>13660081

>>13659928
EN isn't mogging JP that hard that they would be the main, plus they only have 11 chubbas which distorts how good they're actually are compared to JPs.
Give it a few years and you'd start seeing deadweights in EN like in JP as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:17:30 No.13660021 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659929
When Mori was there I saw 4.5k not sure if it was higher though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:17:54 No.13660034 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659162
I mean, it would've been a disappointing debut, but she had 100k+ people in her waiting room.
The number she got had likely nothing to do with her actual debut, HoloX is just crazy hype rn because of multiple factors.
The fact that it was such a high quality debut will likely help her genmates tho because expectations are high now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:18:51 No.13660060 Report

Quoted By: >>13661756

>>13659746
This thread has always had a problem with agendafags who are just here to pick up stuff that will help confirm whatever preconceived notion that they have instead of being actually interested in the truth. Last samurai, nijiniggers, gen5schzio, you name it. Just ignore them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:19:01 No.13660065 Report

Quoted By: >>13660130

>>13659928
And now they lost JP market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:19:31 No.13660081 Report

Quoted By: >>13660133 >>13660379

>>13659988
>first gen to hit all 1M subs
>not mogging hard
Ok schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:19:48 No.13660094 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659955
If that's true I hope they will get along. My intuition just tell me they would get along evenrutally for some reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:20:34 No.13660130 Report

Quoted By: >>13660441 >>13660461

>>13660065
The JP market is irrelevant compared to the global market, nijinigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:20:45 No.13660133 Report

Quoted By: >>13660173

>>13660081
First to 1 mil subs for an individual may mean a lot, but what does the first gen hitting 1 mil subs has to do with anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:21:50 No.13660173 Report

Quoted By: >>13660228 >>13660282

>>13660133
It means they're collectively stronger than the JP branch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:23:04 No.13660223 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659878
NijiEN combined still falling well short of Petra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:23:07 No.13660228 Report

Quoted By: >>13660262

>>13660173
For a global branch that's normal though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:23:23 No.13660237 Report

Quoted By: >>13660260

All this muh jp > global talk is the reason Japan is losing to South Korea kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:23:30 No.13660238 Report

Quoted By: >>13660668

>>13659955
She already admitted to being a lazy fuck by stating that she wanted to do a 10 min debut and only when forced to made enough content for 30 min. Don't get your hopes up that she will have the same work ethic in regards to streaming as Pekora.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:24:11 No.13660260 Report

Quoted By: >>13661032

>>13660237
Losing to South korea in what exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:24:13 No.13660262 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660228
Yes, that's why successful global branches are almost always considered the main branch nowadays and Hololive is no different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:24:44 No.13660282 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660173
Trying too hard, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:25:40 No.13660311 Report

Quoted By: >>13660338

Stop debating who's best among Holo JP or EN, they both mogged they're competitors that's what matters, or are you guys bored there's no competition and your pitting them even though they are in the same company?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:26:11 No.13660326 Report

Quoted By: >>13660372

The state of baits in this thread
>Holosomething>Holosomething
>metrics that fits narrative
>eventually cornered and resort to name calling
>loop 10 times per thread
It's so tiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:26:44 No.13660338 Report

Quoted By: >>13660373 >>13660701

>>13660311
Facts are facts, is there anything wrong with discussing them? Or are JP-onlys so insecure that they don't dare compare EN to JP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:26:52 No.13660344 Report

Quoted By: >>13660370 >>13660470 >>13660726

Are the ENschizo and JPschizo fighting each other again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:27:52 No.13660370 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660344
>Again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:27:54 No.13660372 Report

Quoted By: >>13660428

>>13660326
This is what happens when Niji can't put up a fight. Come on Anycolor, please do something to regain some hype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:27:55 No.13660373 Report

Quoted By: >>13660449

>>13660338
>Lets fight our own competitively after winning a tournament together!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:28:08 No.13660379 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660081
go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:28:11 No.13660385 Report

Quoted By: >>13660500 >>13662237

>>13659249
All those are artifacts of when EN was popular. You might as well say Kizuna AI is the most popular vtuber in the world because of her subcount and VOD views despite the fact she can barely get 5k CCV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:29:18 No.13660428 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660372
Manjisansji...
Onegai, save us from the timeloops...
Oh wait, 4 more days of debuts, we're fucked for at least the next week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:29:20 No.13660429 Report

Quoted By: >>13660484 >>13661004

Ugh, let's talk about midgets.

Who's the top EN indie vtuber nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:29:47 No.13660441 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660130
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Dragon Quest is bigger than Final Fantasy and that is pretty much just based on how big Dragon Quest is in Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:29:58 No.13660449 Report

Quoted By: >>13660486

>>13660373
Do you bitch and whine when a MVP is crowned after a tournament is won?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:30:13 No.13660461 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660130
Not when it is their second best market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:30:15 No.13660463 Report

Quoted By: >>13660531 >>13660611

Kek there is really no competition that this schizo's is pitting each branch of the same company,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:30:22 No.13660470 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660344
>actually same anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:30:47 No.13660484 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660429
Not sure who's the biggest, but I think Bao and Saruei get better numbers than most of NijiEN so they're doing pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:30:52 No.13660486 Report

Quoted By: >>13660542

>>13660449
Who's the judge? The faggots on this Mongolian basket waving forum?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:31:14 No.13660497 Report

Quoted By:

Theme of the thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFWw821wozI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:31:20 No.13660500 Report

Quoted By: >>13660994

>>13660385
>barely get 5k CCV
>5k CCV
That makes Kizuna Ai one of the biggest vtubers in the world. The numbers thread has brain rotted you since you don't realize just how fucking big 5k CCV is. It seems the tales of Ai-chan's demise have been greatest exaggerated. Those are fantastic numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:32:10 No.13660531 Report

Quoted By: >>13660548 >>13661021

>>13660463
>tfw the schizo wont use holoID for shitposting
IDbros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:32:41 No.13660542 Report

Quoted By: >>13660616 >>13660642

>>13660486
The numbers speak for themselves as to which branch is the MVP. >>13659249

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:32:53 No.13660546 Report

Quoted By: >>13660663 >>13660671 >>13660703 >>13660816 >>13661002 >>13661142

>>13659625
>but they've definitely been left behind by EN
Pekora has maintained 30k+ CCV for 4 hours today. Not a single member of EN has done that ONCE in 2021. Pekora has done it almost every single week. Gura is the only EN who manages to reach Miko level, the rest are all Flare level or below.

Hololive powerlevel goes:
>Pekora
>Marine
>Subaru
>Miko
>Rushia
>Gura

then a massive gap to the rest. Kiara and Sana are Roboco level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:32:55 No.13660548 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660531
HoloID still mogs their competition in Indonesia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:33:07 No.13660559 Report

Quoted By: >>13660631 >>13660642

So how about NijiEN and NijiJP pitting each other or is it too much to ask?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:33:12 No.13660562 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659878
man wave 3 numbers are actually sad, some of them are at wactor level

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:34:02 No.13660611 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660463
It's like when a franchise is so dominant in sports that people just argue about which of their championship teams historically was better than the other, right down to fabricating conflicts or narratives between them that have no basis in reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:34:06 No.13660616 Report

Quoted By: >>13660710

>>13660542
MVP but has council number...
sana even lower than anya ffs and their star kronii cant get 20k no more.. ENbros..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:34:20 No.13660631 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660559
Too much of a mogging.

HoloEN at least has some numbers they can use to win.

NijiEN doesn't even have that. They can't even reach 10k CCV collectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:34:33 No.13660642 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660542
But there's a lot of metrics that can be numberfagged about and there's no proper way to weight any of them?
>>13660559
Too much unless you kick the top 10s from JP then EN stands a chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:34:41 No.13660649 Report

Quoted By: >>13662533

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEyIsIN8qe4

friend with more shiny hunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:35:09 No.13660663 Report

Quoted By: >>13660761 >>13660875

>>13660546
>in 2021
Ah yes, just have to nitpick so that we only look at the period of time after Youtube halved Gura's monthly CCV so that Pekora wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:35:25 No.13660668 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660238
>believing keyfabe
Retardchama...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:35:26 No.13660671 Report

Quoted By: >>13660811 >>13660844 >>13661858

>>13660546

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:36:27 No.13660701 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660338
Nice try nijisister

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:36:28 No.13660703 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660546
>Kiara and Sana are Roboco level
Baffling post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:36:39 No.13660710 Report

Quoted By: >>13660756

>>13660616
>spitting EN vs JP even further to EN vs EN
AnyColor please, save us all and get your head in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:37:12 No.13660726 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660344
Probably the same larping niji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:37:56 No.13660756 Report

Quoted By: >>13660835 >>13661077

>>13660710
That's not EN vs EN though. Just that EN defenders just so happen to ignore Council when numberfagging.
Myth is arguably one of the strongest gen in Hololive. Not EN as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:38:14 No.13660761 Report

Quoted By: >>13660790 >>13660844 >>13660930 >>13661002 >>13661142

>>13660663
>B-B-But the cull! Youtube is targeting EN! (Not JP though for...reasons)
Do we have to go through this cope every single time? There is no evil plot to halve ENs CCV while leaving every other stream untouched. They're all on the exact same playing field. If adblock users are getting culled they're getting culled on every stream, the comparisons are completely fair no matter how you spin it and EN is nowhere even close to being able to compete with the top JP holos. Period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:38:58 No.13660778 Report

Quoted By: >>13660915

>somehow loops to CCV and VODs
Buy ropes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:39:14 No.13660790 Report

Quoted By: >>13661005

>>13660761
The cull is different depending on region, best proof is that Gura was cut from 40k to 20k while Pekora was only cut from 40k to 30k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:40:05 No.13660811 Report

Quoted By: >>13660831

>>13660671
>Only 3 ENs are past 10k on median peak
Fucking hell, it's worse than I thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:40:13 No.13660816 Report

Quoted By: >>13660941 >>13661293

>>13660546
1. Pekora
2. Miko
3. Gura
4. Marine
5. Subaru
6. Rushia

That is just based on your rankings. I think putting Subaru ahead of Miko is insane. Miko gets higher averages compared to Subaru while also streaming a ton more hours. Marine also streams even less hours than Gura. I'm not even a 35p but I have an extremely high opinion of Miko since she puts up such high averages while streaming so many hours. In a lot of ways she is like Pekora Lite. She does all the same shit Pekora does but to slightly less numbers but those slightly less numbers are still extremely strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:40:37 No.13660831 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660811
>only 1 gen 5 is past 10k on median peak
Ahahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:40:47 No.13660835 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660756
kek council was so abysmal that the schizo decide to ignore them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:41:07 No.13660844 Report

Quoted By: >>13660867 >>13660902

>>13660761
No matter how much you cope, Gura is still only behind Pekora and Marine in 2021 >>13660671

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:41:21 No.13660851 Report

Quoted By:

Please any company that can at least compete with Hololive, this is hilariously retarded arguments pitting the same company members LMAO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:41:28 No.13660853 Report

Quoted By: >>13660928

WATCH OUT HOLOBROS!!
NIJINIGGERS ARE GOING FULL SEETHING MODE, PITTING HOLOCHAD AGAINTS EACH OTHER!! I REPEAT NIJINIGGERS ARE ON FULL SEETHING MODE RIGHT NOW!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:42:12 No.13660867 Report

Quoted By: >>13661002

>>13660844
oh nooo gura is behind JP vtuber.. EN your #1 claim?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:42:23 No.13660870 Report

Quoted By:

Numbers thread once again derailing due to larping nijis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:42:25 No.13660872 Report

Quoted By: >>13661024 >>13661145

Despite all the EN vs JP vs whatever the fuck, Holochads still winning?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:42:29 No.13660875 Report

Quoted By: >>13660889

>>13660663
Ah yes, you can only rest on old achievements but not perform in the current format. Gura has been increasing in subs at a rate double or more for the last year compared to any other talent. Still her ccv has struggled to increase. With those increases it should be easy to keep a 30k+ median every month regardless of the cull that happens. The sad fact is that gura subs don't watch her live and it's questionable how many watch her vods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:43:02 No.13660889 Report

Quoted By: >>13661176 >>13661382

>>13660875
>dead subs cope again

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:43:29 No.13660902 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660844
Oh? Lets see hours watched for the year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:43:57 No.13660915 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660778
Please give me some too, perhaps if I rope I'll wake up later when the timeloops have finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:44:16 No.13660928 Report

Quoted By: >>13661068

>>13660853
>debuting along with two bugs
I feel bad for rosemi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:44:17 No.13660929 Report

Quoted By: >>13661054

Not even at bump limit and the thread is full of timelooped lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:44:17 No.13660930 Report

Quoted By: >>13661106

>>13660761
Isn't adblock usage a factor in the ccv culling? If so then it makes sense for the JPs to be less affected since Japan has one of the lower adblock usage rates in the world. I also remember seeing a Gura minecraft stream before and after the December algo change that pretty much slashed her ccv in half but all other metrics like views, likes, and stream time were the same.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:44:30 No.13660941 Report

Quoted By: >>13661084 >>13661264

>>13660816
>Marine also streams even less hours than Gura

She still gets more watch hours and average ccv no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:45:43 No.13660994 Report

Quoted By: >>13661071 >>13661565

>>13660500
>Those are fantastic numbers.
Are you literally a 2view or something? How can anyone think that 5k is good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:45:49 No.13661002 Report

Quoted By: >>13661105 >>13661117 >>13661128

>>13660867
So are you going to concede on these claims?
>>13660546
>>Hololive powerlevel goes:
>>Pekora
>>Marine
>>Subaru
>>Miko
>>Rushia
>>Gura

>then a massive gap to the rest. Kiara and Sana are Roboco level.
>>13660761
>EN is nowhere even close to being able to compete with the top JP holos. Period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:45:58 No.13661004 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660429
Saruel, she's a 4k ish ccv vtuber. I don't think there's any other indie that comes close

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:45:58 No.13661005 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660790
People just got bored of Gura and had better things to do. Occams razor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:46:20 No.13661021 Report

Quoted By: >>13661117

>>13660531
just proves schizo is ID

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:46:23 No.13661024 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660872
If they weren't winning the thread wouldn't be in the current state it's in. In all seriousness though, I actually don't want Hololive to become too dominant. Nijisanji is still holding on, but if they slip any further Holo won't have a competitor strong enough to keep them on their toes and it could make them complacent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:46:33 No.13661032 Report

Quoted By: >>13661096

>>13660260
Cultural expansion. SK pretty much is outpacing Japan in tech, which also allows them to export their pop culture products more readily. It doesn't help that Japan is eternally in recession because they can't unlearn their retarded work culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:47:04 No.13661054 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660929
because there is no silver and bronze candidate other than pekora and subaru, gosh wish EN could earn some gold this month

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:47:27 No.13661068 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660928
Don't be, she's a backstabbing bitch so she might as well be a chink in spirit if not by blood

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:47:30 No.13661071 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660994
Actual brain rot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:47:38 No.13661077 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660756
This, myth is strong but it's dragged down by the failure that is council.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:47:51 No.13661084 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660941
>Gura behind Mori
What the fuck am I reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:48:07 No.13661096 Report

Quoted By: >>13661197

>>13661032
Did you know that even with the explosion of kpop, japan is still the 2nd biggest music market in the world thats why kpop company can't stop sending their group in japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:48:22 No.13661105 Report

Quoted By: >>13661142

>>13661002
I mean it seems like an own goal for your argument doesn't it? Even if we use your preferred metric and I put Gura a few ranks up it means the rest of EN gets absolutely fucking mogged by Botan, Shion and fucking AYAME of all people. I'm willing to concede and let Gura go up to #3 if it means you have to admit that the rest of EN can't even compete with Kanata or Shion, who are 2nd string JPs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:48:22 No.13661106 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660930
It is, the difference is probably like 5-15% more culling, but we dont have hard numbers and different firms report different numbers, so....
It's not as big of a difference that it's 10% vs 50%, but again, we can't accurately pin what the actual percents are so it's just best to say that Yt CCV is fucked and better to stick to trends for actual meaningful numbers instead of day-to-day bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:48:41 No.13661117 Report

Quoted By: >>13661177 >>13661216

>>13661002
>Kiara and Sana are Roboco level.
There's numbers right there blindchama, you overestimate Robocco
>>13661021
ID can only compete with their fellow midget NijiEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:48:55 No.13661128 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661002
are you gonna concede EN #1 claim ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:49:28 No.13661142 Report

Quoted By: >>13661226

>>13661105
So are you going to concede on these claims?
>>13660546
>Hololive powerlevel goes:
>>Pekora
>>Marine
>>Subaru
>>Miko
>>Rushia
>>Gura

>then a massive gap to the rest. Kiara and Sana are Roboco level.
>>13660761
>EN is nowhere even close to being able to compete with the top JP holos. Period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:49:34 No.13661145 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660872
Hololive is winning so much that nijis isn't even worth talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:50:36 No.13661176 Report

Quoted By: >>13661354

>>13660889
I mean, it's proven that HoloEN employs bots you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:50:37 No.13661177 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661117
>There's numbers right there blindchama, you overestimate Robocco
Can you not read? I was quoting ENschizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:51:02 No.13661197 Report

Quoted By: >>13661383

>>13661096
How much of that revenue is circulate within their domestic market tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:51:28 No.13661216 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661117
holoID are more important to Cover than nijiEN is to anycolor tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:51:38 No.13661219 Report

Quoted By: >>13661266

Am I in /jp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:51:53 No.13661226 Report

Quoted By: >>13661258 >>13661320

>>13661142
I've already said I'll concede and let Gura go up to #3 if you concede that the rest of EN can't even compete with HoloJPs 2nd string. Do we have a deal?

As for:
>EN is nowhere even close to being able to compete with the top JP holos. Period.
Your own data proves this claim is correct retard, Gura is the only one even close the rest are way back in the middle of the pack at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:52:44 No.13661258 Report

Quoted By: >>13661302

>>13661226
Any argument ignoring the fact that EN suffers more from the adblock cull is disingenuous and nitpicking to push an agenda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:52:56 No.13661264 Report

Quoted By: >>13661321

>>13660941
So Mori, Gura, Irys and Kiara is carrying EN from the past weeks? And council is in the 20 below...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:52:58 No.13661266 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661219
The same schizos are here because jp stop biting their bait so we might as well be

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:52:59 No.13661267 Report

Quoted By:

are these fucks really taking this discussion seriously?
or just trolls trolling each other

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:53:23 No.13661283 Report

Quoted By:

How long before lolicunny surpasses Fauna and Bae? Later today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:53:30 No.13661285 Report

Quoted By:

>Pekora with 37k again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:53:37 No.13661287 Report

Quoted By: >>13661385

>>13657841
It's already spoiled by youtube, kanaria's eye

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:53:43 No.13661293 Report

Quoted By: >>13662588

>>13660816
Its wierd. People seem anxious to place other holos ahead of Miko and I don't get it. As soon as Subaru started hitting 20k on a regular basis people started saying "OMG she is bigger than Miko!!". Miko has been hitting 20k for over a freaking year. Her average is higher than Subaru, her stream hours are higher than Subaru, her superchats are higher than Subaru. Yet people are already declaring Subaru as surpassing Miko. Fucking insane. Miko is #2 behind Pekora and only Marine has an argument for being higher than her but I can't do it due to her low streaming hours (same reason for Gura actually).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:53:54 No.13661302 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661258
>Any argument ignoring the fact that EN suffers more from the adblock cull
This has always been EN cope to deal with the fact they've been reclining and I've never seen a single shred of evidence to the contrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:54:22 No.13661320 Report

Quoted By: >>13661408

>>13661226
>Your own data proves this claim is correct retard, Gura is the only one even close the rest are way back in the middle of the pack at best.
So an EN can compete with top JP holos then? Why did you have to drag this out if that's the case?
Still waiting for you to provide proof for or concede about Roboco being Kiara/Sana level

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:54:24 No.13661321 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661264
Wow, almost like council is full of lazy failures or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:54:24 No.13661322 Report

Quoted By: >>13661374 >>13661434

I admit, anything Koreans put out these days is much better than Japanese stuff. Heck, even Manhwa are read more than Manga now. Korea know Japan is too prideful with their culture, so if they want to surpass Japan, the one way is to use super soft power. The only reason I still ollow JP culture is vtubers nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:55:29 No.13661354 Report

Quoted By: >>13661446

>>13661176
Roboco is in JP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:56:21 No.13661374 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661322
>Heck, even Manhwa are read more than Manga now
Number?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:56:38 No.13661382 Report

Quoted By: >>13661455 >>13661457 >>13661482 >>13661491 >>13661550

>>13660889
it's that simple. since the start of 2021 she has gained 1.8 million subscribers. Her median in January was 25534, her current median in November is 21383. -19 % in median but 50 % more subscribers. Even if we use her best month for the year May, median 27237, that's only and increase of ~7 %. With a sub increase of 50 % she should have a way higher increase then that. What do you call that if not dead subs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:56:38 No.13661383 Report

Quoted By: >>13661498 >>13661570

>>13661197
I don't know about that but this is the list.

The ranking is based on retail value (rather than units) each market generates respectively per year; retail value generated by each market varies from year to year.

China
$ 29.2 million

Brazil
$ 29.58 million

Australia
$ 41.2 million

Canada
$ 43.7 million

South Korea
$ 49.44 million

ALSO READ: Covid-19: India exceeds threshold of 4,000 deaths per day

France
$ 92.5 million

UK
1.31 billion dollars

Germany
1.32 billion dollars

Japan
2.7 billion dollars

America
5.9 billion dollars.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/groundreport.in/top-10-music-markets-in-the-world/amp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:56:44 No.13661385 Report

Quoted By: >>13661882 >>13662277

>>13661287
would be hilarious if hers mogging towa's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:57:15 No.13661408 Report

Quoted By: >>13661489

>>13661320
>So an EN can compete with top JP holos then?
No, Gura can't really compete with Marine or Pekora. She's a distant third at best and she is a massive outlier and can hardly be used to justify the performance of EN as a whole. Remember the claim was that EN is the most popular branch of Hololive and that's clearly false by any metric because even if I conceded that Gura is #1 the rest of EN are so far behind that Gura can't possibly pull them up. The fact Gura obviously ISN'T #1 and instead a distant 3rd just means your argument cannot be justified at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:58:00 No.13661434 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661322
sir this is the numbers thread not /pol/ or /jp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:58:02 No.13661436 Report

Quoted By:

Dammit Pekora ended the fight to quickly and just missed 38k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:58:20 No.13661446 Report

Quoted By: >>13661471 >>13661559

>>13661354
Yeah, so the whole Hololive use bots the. In the caae of Roboco, she definitely use sub-botting program as well since her CCV is way too low compared to her sub count. This also applies to Aki, Matauri and Choco as well. I hope Youtube can do something about this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:58:41 No.13661455 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661382
Those subs factor into her absurd VOD growth and crazy song views. Not everybody is going to tune into her live stream while its happening. Fucking hell you are fucking dumb. This shit has been discussed a million times and you are still too stupid to realize it. You are an idiot. Really stupid. Low IQ tard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:58:43 No.13661457 Report

Quoted By: >>13661516

>>13661382
It's pointless anon. EN fans can't do numbers and just spin conspiracy theories about the Youtube illuminati keeping Guras numbers down for nefarious reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:59:05 No.13661471 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661446
>missing the joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:59:26 No.13661482 Report

Quoted By: >>13661550

>>13661382
Damn, that's one of the best comeback I've seen here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:59:42 No.13661489 Report

Quoted By: >>13661540 >>13661580

>>13661408
>still won't concede that Gura can compete with top JP holos, even being above Miko
>still won't provide proof for or concede about Roboco being Kiara/Sana level
Hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:59:44 No.13661491 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661382 (me)
even more, sub increase is 100 % not 50 %, dur dur

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 08:59:53 No.13661498 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661383
Indonesia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:00:39 No.13661516 Report

Quoted By: >>13661602

>>13661457
It's even worse because Gura is the only thing En really have, everyone else is a midget or

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:01:07 No.13661533 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659878
>mega collab
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:01:27 No.13661540 Report

Quoted By: >>13661612 >>13661620 >>13661643

>>13661489
>still won't concede that Gura can compete with top JP holos, even being above Miko
She really can't. She gets mogged by Pekora so hard to claim that Gura can "compete" with Pekora is an insult to Pekora. Also the fact you're so desperate to use Gura as a stand in for EN is hilarious. What happened to Mori, Ina, Ame and Kiara? They don't exist? Is Gura synonymous with EN now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:01:49 No.13661550 Report

Quoted By: >>13661670

>>13661382
>>13661482
>samefagging ENschizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:01:59 No.13661559 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661446
>This also applies to Kiara and Ame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:02:12 No.13661565 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660994
Numberrotted brain is a sad condition to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:02:18 No.13661569 Report

Quoted By: >>13661639

I feel like a lot of people here also overestimate Gura's membership number as well. She definitely does not have the most members though, I've seen Marine and Miko having more members in their mengen than Gura. Even the VODs for those member streams have higher numbers too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:02:20 No.13661570 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661383

The thing with Japan is that they have high purchase power (Also because their shit is expensive asf), so their domestic market alone should be enough to contribute to a large portion of that number, but that doesn't mean they have high expansion outside of Japan
Like, fuck, just consider how allergic they are to digital products ...
>ALSO READ: Covid-19: India exceeds threshold of 4,000 deaths per day
Damn IN, keep your shit together, it's always you guys and Africa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:02:34 No.13661580 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661489
>ahead of Miko
No! The only person ahead of Miko is Pekora. People constantly seem to undermine how crazy Miko's numbers are with her streaming hours. I am a Gura booster though and place her at 3rd even ahead of Marine so don't mistake me for a hater. I just really respect the high averages Miko maintains while streaming so many hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:03:08 No.13661593 Report

Quoted By:

Is ENschizo trying to push for Miko being a 2nd stringer now? Just because Gura is above her and Gura obviously can't be top tier even among JP Holos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:03:17 No.13661602 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661516
Pretty much. Just an endless cycle.
>But muh Gura!
Point out that Gura's CCV is way below Marine and Pekora
>But muh Youtube cull
Point out there's no valid reason to believe it disproportionately affects EN
>But muh VOD views
The cope just never fucking ends.

Listen. Hololive English is far less popular than JP. This is fact. Stop coping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:03:35 No.13661612 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661540
>Is Gura synonymous with EN now?
I mean who else are they gonna use, council? Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:03:50 No.13661620 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661540
ENschizo ignored council anon.. of course he gonna ignore the deadweight as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:04:15 No.13661639 Report

Quoted By: >>13661693 >>13661961

>>13661569
Until you write a script that is able to scrap chatlogs and give an estimate on memberships, we're going to stick with the April 2021 chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:04:18 No.13661643 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661540
>still won't concede that Gura can compete with top JP holos, even being above Miko
>still won't provide proof for or concede about Roboco being Kiara/Sana level
*Yawn*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:04:27 No.13661650 Report

Quoted By:

Suisei Phony cover
444k - 24HRS
https://youtu.be/N029UUlH1Dc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:04:39 No.13661659 Report

Quoted By: >>13661788

The more I see it, the less I feel confident about HoloEN existing in the long run, maybe 3-4 years top. It's unsustainable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:04:56 No.13661665 Report

Quoted By: >>13661702

Nice fuckfest orgy of schizos we have here.
Too bad kneelposters can't kneel when Holos destroy Nijis so much.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:05:04 No.13661670 Report

Quoted By: >>13661683

>>13661550
honestly, you are just a sad excuse for a human.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:05:26 No.13661683 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661670
Nice inspect element

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:05:50 No.13661693 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661639
Please, don't be blind or stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:05:53 No.13661695 Report

Quoted By:

>>13659811
I don't think she's gonna take a rest at all

She's been hinting at something big towards her birthday

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:06:01 No.13661700 Report

Quoted By: >>13661753 >>13661756 >>13661778 >>13661807 >>13661899 >>13661902 >>13662003 >>13662034

I thought numbers thread is considering all metrics not just a particular one? or this is filled with samefagging schizo and force discussions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:06:03 No.13661702 Report

Quoted By: >>13661736

>>13661665
j-just wait till winter Marika!! and New Year on Niji main channel!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:06:25 No.13661725 Report

Quoted By: >>13661807 >>13663373

Alright faggots, I come bearing gifts from the world outside that might be of interest to actual numberchads.

I present to you, voice ore, quite possibly one of the worst vtuber companies still in business
>they debuted 3 vtubers claiming they are not vtubers but voice actors in training
>2 of them with Nabi designs, one with a different one
>they were told to unarchive the streams and keep them on their channel in a playlist
>they struggled to reach 20k subs
>nowadays they have ~30 viewers
>they also debuted a second gen that is so obscure even the first gen doesn't know about them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:06:37 No.13661730 Report

Quoted By: >>13661804 >>13661844 >>13661917 >>13662768 >>13662865 >>13663424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhsR4i10wsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ups1nPbRDS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RpBB1eHkqA

Shiranui kensetsu collab in minecraft after Lui's debut, with a disney mod?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:06:46 No.13661736 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661702
I mean when is nijijp debuting a new wave?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:07:22 No.13661753 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661700
>or this is filled with samefagging schizo and force discussions
Yes that's the main purpose of this thread. Numbers are secondary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:07:26 No.13661756 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661700
See >>13660060

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:08:11 No.13661778 Report

Quoted By: >>13661858

>>13661700
schizos focus only on CCV because they can use the fake Youtube numbers to construct a false narrative that EN isn't as popular if not more popular than JP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:08:24 No.13661788 Report

Quoted By: >>13661833 >>13661848

>>13661659
Why would it stop existing though? Are you implying that the overhead is going to exceed revenue? Or just that Cover will get bored. I definitely think the bubble has popped and Cover would be wise to stop expanding the EN side, but I doubt maintenance costs them much. It's not like Cover does anything for them anyways and a couple of them print money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:08:55 No.13661804 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661730
Yep. Split POVs, shill stream, Minecraft needs a break, Shiraken collab too often. Not that interesting imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:09:00 No.13661807 Report

Quoted By: >>13661900 >>13661914

>>13661700
And who's the most rounded Holo?
>>13661725
It's still in business? kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:09:35 No.13661833 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661788
That's too many words for a shitty doompost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:09:48 No.13661844 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661730
>split POV
The bane of all numberfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:09:51 No.13661846 Report

Quoted By: >>13661893 >>13661895 >>13661901 >>13661934 >>13661997 >>13662101 >>13662292

So is there anything in this thread worth reading or is it just schizo shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:09:59 No.13661848 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661788
I think you're replying to the traditional ENschizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:10:18 No.13661858 Report

Quoted By: >>13661976

>>13661778
Your own fucking numbers support that narrative you fucking retard! Where are the majority of EN on this chart? >>13660671

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:10:41 No.13661877 Report

Quoted By:

I can't for bird wing head girl to debut, I can't wait for council to be mogged once more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:10:52 No.13661882 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661385
It'll obviously mogs towa's, what are you talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:11 No.13661893 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661846
Just schizo shit and the winner for today is already decided. There will be nothing worth looking at here for a while with gen 6 debuting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:12 No.13661895 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661846
Just start reading the thread when Lui debuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:18 No.13661899 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661700
The key to having a good time here is to learn which posts to ignore.
You'll quickly realize most of the posts here are from disingenuous fucktards and skim pass them until you find someone genuinely interested in numbers discussion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:19 No.13661900 Report

Quoted By: >>13661965

>>13661807
Technically. It even has a second gen, even though you wouldn't know about them even if you followed the talents because their only announcements was a twitter post and one of them wasn't even listed in there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:23 No.13661901 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661846
Niji isn't a viable competition anymore, it is inevitable at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:25 No.13661902 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661700
schizos focus only on subscribers because they can use the fake Youtube numbers to construct a false narrative that JP isn't as popular if not more popular than Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:32 No.13661909 Report

Quoted By: >>13661965

Any news about the MC School Festival that Miko talked about? I'm dying to watch another MC event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:37 No.13661914 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661807
>And who's the most rounded Holo?
I think Moona is pretty fucking round.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:11:39 No.13661917 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661730
It's a DLC map for Minecraft overworlds. Sponsored? No permissions issues because Disney gave MC the go-ahead for this DLC so it falls under standard MC permissions I'm guessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:12:01 No.13661934 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661846
you can block them, is what I do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:12:40 No.13661953 Report

Quoted By: >>13662032

"schizo" just lost it's meaning...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:12:49 No.13661961 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661639
NTA, but I actually did it. I just don't think those numbers are worth posting here since they are no more than bare floor for Holo's memberships.
(My little script was simply going through the public chat logs and looked for YT unique ID that did one of the followings during a stream: joined / upgraded membership, sent any chat message, sent any SC, or sent any member-only monthly message)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:12:52 No.13661965 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661900
I hope it's not profitable and they graduate and their suffering ends.
>>13661909
Doubt. Maybe in half a year.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:13:01 No.13661972 Report

Quoted By: >>13662051 >>13662088

I hope Lui actually is proficient with EN and will have some EN streams on EN "prime time", so we can finally really tell if the theory that most EN audience are the type to not turn up for streams but will check out the vods be true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:13:03 No.13661975 Report

Quoted By: >>13662076 >>13662095

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTb_AvLchgY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:13:04 No.13661976 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661858
>has it pointed out that schizos are tunneling in on CCV because it's the easiest metric to shitpost with thanks to Susan fuckery
>tries to use a CCV table as a counter argument
you're not very smart are you schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:13:43 No.13661997 Report

Quoted By: >>13662044

>>13661846
Just wait for the number orgy when Lui debuts.
/#/ has been extra shit these days because Holos have been dominating too hard in November that people need to invent enemies to fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:13:51 No.13662003 Report

Quoted By: >>13662058 >>13662123

>>13661700
Schizos only focus on numbers because it hurts my feelings to think EN aren't as popular as JP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:14:38 No.13662032 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661953
yup but it's "its"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:14:39 No.13662034 Report

Quoted By: >>13662123

>>13661700
Schizos only focus on numbers because it hurts my feelings to think JP aren't as popular as EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:14:58 No.13662044 Report

Quoted By: >>13662123

>>13661997
We could be talking about smaller agencies and indies, but no instead we just need someone to fight because this is apparently the tribal war thread and not numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:15:15 No.13662051 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661972
The same speculation happened with Polka. She also had a lot of English tweets which made people think she had some English proficency, and you can see how that turned out. I wouldn't get my hopes up, but it'd be a pleasant surprise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:15:24 No.13662058 Report

Quoted By: >>13662123 >>13662126

>>13662003
>EN used to dominate every single number including CCV
>Youtube fucks with CCV
>EN now dominates in every single number except for CCV
>n-n-no EN is less popular than JP it must be so because of CCV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:15:51 No.13662076 Report

Quoted By: >>13662104

>>13661975
Laplus is already at 339k. Tick tock Fauna and Bae, cunny is going to surpass you in less than 48 hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:16:15 No.13662088 Report

Quoted By: >>13662147

>>13661972
It's interesting that about half of EN are proficient in Japanese while the only JP who can speak relatively coherent english is Haachama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:16:22 No.13662093 Report

Quoted By: >>13662544

Anyone know why Flare is releasing Covers of songs that multiple Holos have already done before? The views are obviously gonna be so shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:16:31 No.13662095 Report

Quoted By: >>13662213 >>13662243

>>13661975
I find the likelyhood that she paid for that herself slim since she was basically a 2 view before this. So cover is now paying for a cover for some(all?) talent when they debut in jp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:16:46 No.13662101 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661846
Some charts were posted that show that Nijisanji has been in decline across ALL branches since the end of the summer, while Hololive has upticked in Sept/Oct after a weak August. It's....yea, it's been bad ever since because there's no easy Niji vs Holo shitposting, so it's devolved into various forms of Holo vs Holo shitposting, which gets especially shitposty because a few Anons are samefagging and relying to badfaith arguments on purpose to stir more shit.
Its gonna be bad for at least the next week imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:16:49 No.13662103 Report

Quoted By: >>13662320 >>13662431

There will be a Splatoon collab for HoloEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:16:51 No.13662104 Report

Quoted By: >>13662173 >>13662519

>>13662076
Laplus benefited from having a quick debut, if you squeezed Council's debuts into the same day as their channel reveal they'd be on par or greater than Laplus's numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:17:17 No.13662123 Report

Quoted By: >>13662175 >>13662299 >>13662508 >>13662779

>>13662003
>>13662034
>posts like these
>>13662044
How new? And well tbf you'll only get mentioned here if you have extremely shit numbers for a big company or extremely good numbers
Indies and small corpos aren't worth discussing or keeping track of at all
>>13662058
I'm just going to politely point out that EN does not win in SCs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:17:25 No.13662126 Report

Quoted By: >>13662241

>>13662058
>EN now dominates in every single number except for CCV
Does it though? I mean I can understand why ENfags might want to pretend Council doesn't exist but they're still there and getting the mogging of a lifetime from Laplus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:18:13 No.13662147 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662088
Because Japanese is the superior languague. Tenno Heika Banzai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:18:50 No.13662173 Report

Quoted By: >>13662226

>>13662104
Are you high? Council debuted 3 months ago and Laplus is on place to surpass 3/5 of them in less than 48 hours. You better not give the pruned subs excuse, anyone that cared just subbed back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:18:52 No.13662175 Report

Quoted By: >>13662207

>>13662123
SCs aren't a measure of popularity but a gauge of how much you can exploit your simps, bringing up in a discussion of popularity is just attempting to make an argument in bad faith.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:19:58 No.13662205 Report

Quoted By: >>13662506

>>13659303
who are they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:19:59 No.13662207 Report

Quoted By: >>13662275

>>13662175
>popularity
You cant actually numberfag popularity, only a speculation of it via available metrics.
The post said "every single number", so I pointed out that it wasn't "every single number", that's it. Morals don't matter here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:20:07 No.13662213 Report

Quoted By: >>13662411

>>13662095
Moona said that Cover now has a budget whenever a holo want to release an orisong so now is not that expensive for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:20:38 No.13662226 Report

Quoted By: >>13662327

>>13662173
Yeah no Laplus is only growing so fast because she combined the channel reveal buff and the debut buff on the same day, also skipping past all the sub pruning in the meantime. Council would've grown at a similar rate to her if they had the same buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:20:59 No.13662237 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660385
Isn't she at 2k ccv? Dunno she peaks higher than that, maybe only for some bigger events.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:21:04 No.13662241 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662126
I love how enfags now try really hard to pretend that council doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:21:07 No.13662243 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662095
Yes just to make Kiara seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:22:04 No.13662275 Report

Quoted By: >>13662366 >>13662393

>>13662207
Pretty sure you can numberfag popularity.

Use subs, # of clips, and clip VODS.

No one wants to numberfag subs for some reason, and the clips metrics are too hard to numberfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:22:11 No.13662277 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661385
after laplus had the biggest debut in vtuber history if this girl's cover doesn't mog Towa's in seconds, it would be bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:22:44 No.13662292 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661846
Only oricon posts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:23:04 No.13662299 Report

Quoted By: >>13662360 >>13662393

>>13662123
NTA but isn't Mori top 10 in total SC numbers or are you gonna ignore it too because it's not top 1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:23:32 No.13662320 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662103
Also if they want to hold pokemon tournament, they have to do it before JP tournament is over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:23:43 No.13662327 Report

Quoted By: >>13662368

>>13662226
What a loads of bullshit. Face it Laplus has mogged Sana and will mog both Fauna and Bae by the end of the day all in less of 48 hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:23:48 No.13662331 Report

Quoted By: >>13662364 >>13662380 >>13662399 >>13662418

What went wrong with NijiEN? Even with manjisanji carrying them, they can't reach 10k.

Jokes aside, why isn't anyone talking more about Petra almost reaching 10k? That's an achievement for NijiEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:23:49 No.13662332 Report

Quoted By: >>13662419 >>13662702

It would be funny if Cover decides to scrap Council. That would be a PR disaster for Hololive for sure, similar to the Vshojo doxx stuff right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:24:42 No.13662360 Report

Quoted By: >>13662493

>>13662299
What caused Mori's SC numbers to recover? I remember them starting off astronomically high and then eventually taking a nose dive. Surprised to hear she's ahead of Gura and Kiara again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:24:49 No.13662364 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662331
Petra is finally tired of being made fun of, so she's now trying to become an actual Gura killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:24:51 No.13662366 Report

Quoted By: >>13662498

>>13662275
>No one wants to numberfag subs for some reason
Because then Kizuna AI would be the 2nd most popular vtuber in the world at the moment and that's clearly not true. Number of subs ignores current performance. Look at Gura for example, highest subbed member in Hololive by far but she can't compete with Pekora in number of viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:24:55 No.13662368 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662327
Than

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:25:06 No.13662380 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662331
I thought Mayuzumi was fairly popular so it shouldn't be surprising?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:25:29 No.13662392 Report

Quoted By: >>13662460 >>13662639

Alright call me retarded if (You) must but aren't sub cullings not that bad since all the ones that care would re-sub anyway which would make their sub count normal again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:25:30 No.13662393 Report

Quoted By: >>13662627 >>13663959

>>13662275
>subs
No one will deny that Gura is the most popular chubba in the world. What's to argue about? 2nd places?
>clips and clip VODs
You may start, because it sounds like a horribly painful thing to numberfag.
>>13662299
He said dominate but fair enough. However >>13657413

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:25:44 No.13662399 Report

Quoted By: >>13662463 >>13662663

>>13662331
It wasn't her fanbase that got her to 9k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:26:05 No.13662411 Report

Quoted By: >>13662465

>>13662213
But that's a cover

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:26:09 No.13662418 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662331
cause that was not an achievement, that was just niji males carrying deadweights as always

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:26:09 No.13662419 Report

Quoted By: >>13662450 >>13662484 >>13662527 >>13662702

>>13662332
Yeah, it will never happen but I would love to see the council's reaction to being fired over their failure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:26:27 No.13662431 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662103
Ina team will win
next

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:00 No.13662444 Report

Quoted By: >>13662487 >>13662540

Kek Rushia is doing a stream where she just watches her fans fight for her amusement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:08 No.13662450 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662419
>firing "failures"
I hope they fire Ayame for being crippled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:27 No.13662460 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662392
Yeah, but councilfags need the cope to try and make their girls less of a failure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:29 No.13662463 Report

Quoted By: >>13662535

>>13662399
That's the point of having collabs with your senpais anon, their fans will trickle down to yours. Also why a collab ban early on is counterproductive when the livers will want to be doing as much collabs with more established chuubas as possible so that they can leech some viewers while they're still fresh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:30 No.13662465 Report

Quoted By: >>13662507

>>13662411
is it? I have no idea but if that's the case then it shouldn't be that expensive a lot of indies could afford it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:50 No.13662484 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662419
You need to reach the failure of holo CN to warrant a scrubbing, they are nowhere near that level

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:27:57 No.13662487 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662444
She still gets good number too. Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:28:08 No.13662493 Report

Quoted By: >>13662553

>>13662360
recover from what? She always have a high SC numbers among EN, of course some JP still mogged her but she is always at the top because of her music and usual gachi's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:28:16 No.13662498 Report

Quoted By: >>13662540

>>13662366
That's why I also added # of clips and clip VODs.

You can probably also consider their highest ever CCV in current year for their ceiling of popularity.

Like it or not, there is a sizable clipwatcher culture out there for everyone, not just EN. We should numberfag those too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:28:31 No.13662506 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662205
Japanese ambassador to the US, his aide and escorts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:28:31 No.13662507 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662465
Covers are a lot cheaper than originals for obvious reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:28:34 No.13662508 Report

Quoted By: >>13662556

>>13662123
Anon, they don't win out on Views / month either. They lose on a lot of metrics that chumbuds don't want to admit exists. En has a higher subscriber rate, no discussion there. Gura has a high ceiling (who would have though with 3.6 million) and Gura wins out on average views / video. Cali has the most viewed song.
But in consistency and aggregate they lose out every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:28:51 No.13662519 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662104
Councilkek... not like this..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:29:05 No.13662527 Report

Quoted By: >>13662614 >>13662702 >>13662741

>>13662419
It's actually amazing that the whole generation is such a flop filled with talentless hacks. And the only one with a modicum of talent doesn't give a fuck and is too lazy to capitalize on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:29:11 No.13662533 Report

Quoted By:

>>13660649
welp, this is probably gonna take bronze and maybe silver

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:29:17 No.13662535 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662463
Here's a nijikek with their trickle down theory again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:29:36 No.13662540 Report

Quoted By: >>13662578 >>13662619

>>13662444
Actually good content. Fans gets to fight in front of their oshi, prove themselves and earn her recognition.
>>13662498
>peak CCV
Hajime. Case closed.
Clips though, how do you numberfag clips? Surely there's no sites for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:29:38 No.13662544 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662093
She's always slow to trends

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:30:09 No.13662553 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662493
Like I said her SC numbers started getting bad for a while and was consistently around Gura level and behind Kiara. Just seems like they've recovered somewhat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:30:13 No.13662556 Report

Quoted By: >>13662631 >>13662695

>>13662508
>comparing aggregate numbers for holos with 3-4 year old channels to a newbie 1 year old channel which hasn't as much time to build up a large archive
That's as good as admitting you've lost. Try comparing Gura's aggregate VODs to holos who debuted around the same time like gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:30:18 No.13662560 Report

Quoted By:

Fubuki with 24k already

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:30:47 No.13662578 Report

Quoted By: >>13662606

>>13662540
What about Hajime?

Also, then just numberfag highest CCV for a solo non event stream then for their ceiling for popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:31:00 No.13662588 Report

Quoted By: >>13662678

>>13661293
Miko is stalling, and her fans overlap so much with other holo especially Pekora

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:31:16 No.13662594 Report

Quoted By: >>13662633 >>13662685 >>13662707 >>13662736 >>13663151

hololive is legit gonna win the rest of this month and maybe the first week of December. can we talk about midgets and speculate their growth? or maybe see if there's a pattern with cover's scouting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:31:53 No.13662606 Report

Quoted By: >>13662715

>>13662578
Hajime's biggest stream of his life was that 30k something 3D debut. That represents absolutely fucking nothing of his popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:32:05 No.13662614 Report

Quoted By: >>13662691 >>13662702

>>13662527
I legitimately wonder what the fuck were their scouting team thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:32:14 No.13662619 Report

Quoted By: >>13662691

>>13662540
You can always scrape the Yt video tags for clips. It's not impossible, but given the sheer amount of clips that sounds like a whole lot of time to come to one conclusion: Gura clips rule the goddamn clipscene, and her algorithm weight helps drive Hololive in the algo and is also part of the reason why she gets so many goddamn subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:32:31 No.13662627 Report

Quoted By: >>13662691

>>13662393
>Gura
>most popular Vtuber
>can't beat Pekora, Marine and Miko CCV
Rumao. Chumpedo hands wrote this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:32:41 No.13662631 Report

Quoted By: >>13662688

>>13662556
>Try comparing Gura's aggregate VODs to holos who debuted around the same time like gen 5.
Why only Gura? Why not compare EN to Gen 5 as a whole?

Oh. Oh right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:32:42 No.13662633 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662594
how about waiting after all holox debut? we still don't know if the other 4 were indies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:32:54 No.13662639 Report

Quoted By: >>13662702

>>13662392
It's still tank their momentum by quite a lot.
Also it doesn't help that councils are just a bunch or unambitious whores

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:33:34 No.13662663 Report

Quoted By: >>13662687

>>13662399
9k is 9k
just like baelz cant get 20k without myth or jp senpai interaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:05 No.13662678 Report

Quoted By: >>13662889

>>13662588
How is Miko stalling? This is her strongest month in a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:25 No.13662685 Report

Quoted By: >>13663075

>>13662594
>pattern with cover's scouting?

Long time content creators.

Niche talent that doesn't overlap with the rest of their genmates or the most recent gen.

One of them is always a gamble (someone with no easily traceable history of content creating, or someone not popular.)

Voice must not be out of place for the model.

Most importantly, all of them must have personalities that do not seriously conflict with preexisting talents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:27 No.13662687 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662663
still can get more alone than the other two together

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:30 No.13662688 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662631
Gen 5 still get mogged hard considering their month's headstart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:37 No.13662691 Report

Quoted By: >>13662928

>>13662614
Maybe something like this
>Myth was stressed with numbers as they were unexpectedly successful
>Our next gen should be full of anti numberfags
or something.
>>13662619
Gura definitely rules the clip scene overall, but it'll change according to what's the shiny new toy as of now of course.
>>13662627
Popularity in the most simplest form. Kizuna Ai is also immensely popular despite having shit metrics nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:44 No.13662695 Report

Quoted By: >>13662898

>>13662556
Aggregate in a month you retard. And why would you compare a channel that has 3.6 million subs with Botan at 1.1 million? Are you really that retarded since you're basically saying "yea but don't compare with Pekora, compare with Botan who is in number 24 in subs". Or do you think that aggregate only means from the debut? are you really that dumb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:34:59 No.13662702 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662419
>>13662332
>>13662527
>>13662614
>>13662639
Holy fucking samefag, chill the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:35:09 No.13662707 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662594
>can we talk about midgets and speculate their growth?
We could talk about how long it will take for Laplus to mog the rest of the council, I'm betting 4 or 5 hours for Fauna and Bae, another day or two for Mumei and beginning of December for Kronii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:35:26 No.13662715 Report

Quoted By: >>13662762

>>13662606
It does actually, compared to the 3d debuts this year. Numbers are all relative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:36:18 No.13662736 Report

Quoted By: >>13662807 >>13662824

>>13662594
there's still Nun Bora graduation holokek...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:36:30 No.13662741 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662527
I won't call them talentless, especially kronii, sana, and mumei. They're just lazy/don't know what they're doing it makes me so fucking mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:37:01 No.13662762 Report

Quoted By: >>13662813

>>13662715
On how many have a big enough hate boner to watch his shit? Maybe.
He did get a scrapegoat to sit on the lowest Niji 3D debut of all time though so that's something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:37:08 No.13662768 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661730
most likely gonna catch most of the tourist funnel due to the mouse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:37:36 No.13662779 Report

Quoted By: >>13662869 >>13662870 >>13662981 >>13663173

>>13662123
>Indies and small corpos aren't worth discussing or keeping track of at all
They absolutely are, we almost got completely blindsided by the troubles re:act are going through and how that lead to one of them jumping ship over to hololive because nobody talks about anything other than Holo and niji here. There's actual developments out there that would give us a greater understanding on the state of the industry if anyone would actually discuss them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:38:25 No.13662807 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662736
Do you really think it can win the day when JP6 just released?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:38:35 No.13662813 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662762
Cover debuted Laplus yesterday because Hajime bribed them to do so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:38:59 No.13662824 Report

Quoted By: >>13662870 >>13662961

>>13662736
is funny how she got a lot of likes and retweets with her graduation announcement but barely no one is watching her last streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:40:16 No.13662864 Report

Quoted By: >>13662936

>Fubuki 32k get

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:40:17 No.13662865 Report

Quoted By: >>13663171

Suisei's phony after 24 hours and 40 minutes

>>13661730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuXYIBoqHm4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:40:21 No.13662869 Report

Quoted By: >>13663369

>>13662779
Tbh, this is actually /tribalism/ first and /numbers/ second.

The numbers are mostly there just for the narrative of tribalposters.

Also, it's just an unfortunate consequence of being unpopular, no one talks about them. Even NijiEN barely gets talked about nowadays.

It's all Holo vs Holo because Holo is popular.

But QRD on Re:Act.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:40:24 No.13662870 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662779
>jumpship
A literal hobo with some personality can join Holo and get good numbers. Not to say that Cover would do that.
>development
I'm sure as hell La+'s recruit has nothing to do with her past life numbers.
Might as well just predict
>which midget will join Hololive next
>>13662824
She got like 7k for her zatsudan stream after the announcement. After that... nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:40:45 No.13662889 Report

Quoted By: >>13662978

>>13662678
>This is her strongest month in a long time.
Because Sports Fest

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:40:54 No.13662898 Report

Quoted By: >>13663017

>>13662695
They lose even harder if you look at aggregate in a month, also Botan had more hype and a higher debut viewership/sub count than Gura but look at her now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:41:22 No.13662912 Report

Quoted By: >>13662937 >>13662946 >>13662975 >>13663072

Cover's recruiting is so unpredictable sometimes. But they always deliver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:41:46 No.13662928 Report

Quoted By: >>13662975

>>13662691
And that's why you're a faggot. CCV is the simplest form of popularity - it actually shows how many people actually show up to watch your streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:42:07 No.13662936 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662864
Pretty unreal that her Shiny hunting/zatsus are actually inclining after the first stream.
Word is catching on (eventho it's likely that when she does fish a shiny magikarp, it'll be off-stream)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:42:07 No.13662937 Report

Quoted By: >>13662982

>>13662912
>they always deliver
>gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:42:25 No.13662946 Report

Quoted By: >>13662982

>>13662912
>But they always deliver.
Council disagree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:42:54 No.13662961 Report

Quoted By: >>13663018

>>13662824
how's that funny, she's fucking graduating and all niji and apexfags' reaction was just "thats too bad". holy mother of tourists, just dont interact instead of faking shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:43:23 No.13662975 Report

Quoted By: >>13663037

>>13662912
But not Sana. She's doesn't even have a "thing" going for her that contributes to Hololive's popularity spread in any meaningful way, and self sabotaging for better gachis means jack shit.
>>13662928
Kizuna Ai. Same shit.
No one watches her live but she's immensely popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:43:30 No.13662978 Report

Quoted By: >>13663164

>>13662889
She would still easily be #2 for the month even without sports fest. Try again anti.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:43:33 No.13662981 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662779
There's no problems in Re:Act though? People jump ship from the company all the time - heck one of them streamed once and then fucked right off

La+ was inactive for almost a year now; her moving to Holo doesn't indicate that her old company had issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:43:34 No.13662982 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662937
>>13662946
oh shit gen 5 and council schizo are fucking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:44:43 No.13663017 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662898
Make it a top 10 JP vs EN. Since you are arguing that EN > JP in views/month, not that EN > gen 5 Oh wait. that wouldn't fit your narrative. Or are you that gen 5 schizo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:44:44 No.13663018 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662961
>too bad you are graduating
>here have a pity like
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:45:18 No.13663037 Report

Quoted By: >>13663321

>>13662975
And you're just further proving that Subs are a useless metric and shouldn't be used to determine which Chuubas are the most popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:46:21 No.13663072 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662912
>always deliver
council.. anya..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:46:25 No.13663075 Report

Quoted By: >>13663106 >>13663191 >>13663225

>>13662685
>One of them is always a gamble
who do you think fills this role in each gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:46:25 No.13663076 Report

Quoted By: >>13663413 >>13663566

Imma let the schizos fight each other. Let's talk about NijiID, how are they compared to Maha5?

Is Maha5 still even relevant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:46:31 No.13663081 Report

Quoted By: >>13663139 >>13663147 >>13663156 >>13663266 >>13663304

since when did we have a council schizo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:47:21 No.13663106 Report

Quoted By: >>13663287

>>13663075
Ame in myth, Bae in failuregen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:48:45 No.13663139 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663081
Since the announcement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:48:54 No.13663147 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663081
During/after La+ debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:49:01 No.13663151 Report

Quoted By: >>13663559 >>13663896

>>13662594
Hololive is winning next month too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:49:09 No.13663156 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663081
Person shitting up the thread is just a Niji baiting because they got blown out yesterday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:49:26 No.13663164 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662978
Lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:49:34 No.13663171 Report

Quoted By: >>13663588

>>13662865
how big is this collab for Hololive?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:49:40 No.13663173 Report

Quoted By: >>13663488

>>13662779
My JP oshi is actually in 774. I just mainly talk about Hololive in this thread because I also really love Hololive and nobody would care about my actual JP oshi (pic related) when it comes to numbers. My EN oshi is IRyS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:50:12 No.13663191 Report

Quoted By: >>13663287 >>13663640

>>13663075
Gen 1 Mel to replace Chris
Gen 2 Shion
Gen 3 none they're perfect
Gen 4 Towa
Gen 5 Lamy
Myth Ame
Council Bael

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:50:47 No.13663213 Report

Quoted By: >>13663264

>nijisanji didn't also get the disney collab because of winnie the pooh
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:51:09 No.13663225 Report

Quoted By: >>13663287

>>13663075
Gen 0 - Sora
Gen 2 - Subaru
Gen 5 - Lamy
EN1 - Ame
EN2 - Baelz
ID2 - Anya

Actually, I may have exaggerated about there always being a gamble pick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:52:17 No.13663264 Report

Quoted By: >>13663419 >>13663616

>>13663213
Does Disney hate chinks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:52:18 No.13663266 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663081
167k debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:52:56 No.13663287 Report

Quoted By: >>13663340 >>13663349 >>13663356 >>13663990

>>13663106
>>13663191
>>13663225
Why is Bae a gamble? Not a shitpost, just generally curious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:53:19 No.13663304 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663081
Since people have bit the bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:53:44 No.13663321 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663037
Ai is popular not because of subs but because she was the vanguard of vtubing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:54:16 No.13663340 Report

Quoted By: >>13663387

>>13663287
Most 2 view imaginable and not super talented in something that would explain hiring her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:54:35 No.13663349 Report

Quoted By: >>13663387

>>13663287
2view with no special talents, only thing she had was basically multiple languages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:54:54 No.13663356 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663287
Because she was a 2view with no stand out traits. There's EN indies that had more numbers than her past life.

Kronii's past vtuber life might have also been a 2view, but she also had a channel that was popular before that.

This really kills the rrat the Cover only hires people who produced big numbers before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:55:21 No.13663369 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662869
Well it shouldn't be, we should wrest things back to being /numbers/ first and /tribal/ second or better yet not at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:55:33 No.13663373 Report

Quoted By: >>13663454

>>13661725
How are they still in business with such strange business model? This reeks of money landering racket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:55:57 No.13663387 Report

Quoted By: >>13663422 >>13663434

>>13663340
>>13663349
She is a pretty damn good singer. I would place her 3rd in EN behind IRyS and Gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:56:55 No.13663413 Report

Quoted By: >>13663475

>>13663076
I do not follow either of those groups, but I'll engage since it's better than twiddling my thumbs while I wait for the HoloJP debut. Cursory glanec of what I suppose are the biggest talents of each agency, based on VOD views Maha5 looks stronger. I'm lazy but maybe I'll find the median VOD view of the top performer of each group based on the last 10 streams if I get bored enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:57:02 No.13663419 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663264
Disney was sucking china's dick with Mulan and all that Chinese pandering in their recent movies so you tell me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:57:04 No.13663422 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663387
She is definitely not better than Mori, or even Mumei for that matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:57:06 No.13663424 Report

Quoted By:

>>13661730
ILLEGAL DISNEY FUNNELING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:57:26 No.13663434 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663387
That's the thing, there's probably EN indies that have better singing talent than her. And yet, it's her who got hired.

I'm thinking that she probably got hired for how her rat voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:58:03 No.13663454 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663373
I have no idea and neither do the people who watch them where I got this information from

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:58:40 No.13663475 Report

Quoted By: >>13663566 >>13663693

>>13663413
Hmm, anyone here know's Maha5's strategy? They must be doing something right if they're mogging Nijisanji in ID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:59:00 No.13663488 Report

Quoted By: >>13663504 >>13663596

>>13663173
Cool. I wanted to get into Tirol. BTW Why did she disappear for several months? Did that tank her numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 09:59:41 No.13663504 Report

Quoted By: >>13663576

>>13663488
Disappearing for several months always tanks the numbers unless you're Ayame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:02:02 No.13663559 Report

Quoted By: >>13663940

>>13663151
most likely but Niji Mario Kart gets pretty decent numbers in their own right. unless they're going against EN 1 and Pekora costumes, I can see them taking a few days. maybe more than this month

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:02:13 No.13663566 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663076
Of course maha5 is relevant, they are on the same level if not better than nijiID and they are still the only foreign company that has successfully managed to expand into Japan

>>13663475
Essentially, they are run by locals and are more tapped into the local community than nijiID are.
Though bear in mind that when he says mog it's means maha5 averages 200ccv instead of the 100 that nijiID does, it's not exactly a big difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:02:33 No.13663576 Report

Quoted By: >>13663604 >>13663802

>>13663504
Miko proves you wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:02:59 No.13663588 Report

Quoted By: >>13663647

>>13663171
>Disney
Pretty big, although I'm pretty sure that this is Minecraft's permission since they can't use the BGM https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1464514855700885508

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:03:18 No.13663596 Report

Quoted By: >>13663626

>>13663488
I actually found Tirol when looking for vtuber Christmas streams last year. She had a Christmas karaoke stream on Christmas Eve and I instantly fell in love. That was when she was till an indie before she joined Animare. Since she joined Animare she has been cursed with bad heatlh and has had to take breaks due to it. She is back now so lets hope it sticks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:03:36 No.13663604 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663576
Migo! I kneel!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:04:07 No.13663616 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663264
no, Mr. Walt Disney hates Jews. since niji is still sleeping with the chinks, I don't think it's a good idea for them to show the bear. I legit don't think niji could handle their version of Taiwan event

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:04:38 No.13663626 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663596
Do you guys feel that like how Cover is extremely lucky, some companies are extremely unlucky?

Tsunderia...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:04:54 No.13663640 Report

Quoted By: >>13663706 >>13663965

>>13663191
>Towa
Nah. Thats Luna or Coco. Two hires that could end up controversial. Towa had nepotism on her side and nobody expected the yabs
>Lamy
Its Aloe.
>Shion
Subaru exists and is a bigger gamble. Shion already had a twitcasting background.
>Mel
It’s Haachama. The youngest of that gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:05:10 No.13663647 Report

Quoted By: >>13663777

>>13663588
then this is a microsoft sponsor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:06:29 No.13663693 Report

Quoted By: >>13663833

>>13663475
Maha5 is the biggest indo agency and much bigger than NijiID and HoloID. HoloID numbers are only this big because of eops while maha5 has 100% of id fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:06:53 No.13663703 Report

Quoted By:

Towa is getting sponsored by riot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:06:59 No.13663704 Report

Quoted By:

https://twitter.com/rpr/status/1464534549170475014
rpr is an agent sent by Towa. same thing with Bora. someone stop her!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:07:04 No.13663706 Report

Quoted By: >>13663836

>>13663640
>Towa nepotism
That's new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:07:45 No.13663724 Report

Quoted By:

Holy shit friend, back to back 37k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:07:57 No.13663730 Report

Quoted By: >>13663823 >>13663864

Based shion
https://youtu.be/LHSLuBt7aB8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:08:25 No.13663753 Report

Quoted By: >>13663803 >>13663853

Fubuki currently at 37k!
I never knew friend has this much power!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:09:08 No.13663777 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663647
>microsoft
damn, microsoft is very friendly with hololive. have they sponsored any niji streams before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:09:57 No.13663802 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663576
Miko always gives constant updates on her Twitter, unlike Ayame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:09:57 No.13663803 Report

Quoted By: >>13663847 >>13663853 >>13663898

>>13663753
She peak at 38k. This shiny hunting is pretty effective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:10:40 No.13663823 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663730
kusogaki synergy?
kusogaki synergy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:11:05 No.13663833 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663693
Even if HoloID only has 20% of their ccv as ID fans, that still mogs Maha5's numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:11:07 No.13663836 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663706
Towa was part of the NND circle that some of the older gen members are from. She knows Mio and Okayu. (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:11:30 No.13663847 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663803
If Pekora will do this shiny hunt as well, you think 40k+ per streams is possible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:11:49 No.13663853 Report

Quoted By: >>13663887 >>13663892 >>13663898 >>13664010 >>13664551

>>13663803
>>13663753
SHE'S LITERALLY JUST FISHING!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:12:11 No.13663864 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663730
I'm just picturing Shion watching La+'s debut and going "Ah Shit."
Probably the same feeling Anya got when she scheduled the release of her Phony cover on the same day as Suisei's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:13:14 No.13663887 Report

Quoted By: >>13664551

>>13663853
But anon, nips are autistic enough to watch her caught a shiny magicarp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:13:24 No.13663892 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663853
It's a gacha stream. Nips love that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:13:33 No.13663896 Report

Quoted By: >>13663924 >>13663931 >>13664165

>>13663151
when was the last time niji even won a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:13:41 No.13663898 Report

Quoted By: >>13663938 >>13664014

>>13663853
>>13663803
Why no one on EN side thought of this? Too much hassle on their lazy ass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:14:48 No.13663924 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663896
July or August or both

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:15:02 No.13663931 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663896
during koshien, though they barely won

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:15:03 No.13663932 Report

Quoted By:

>it's almost 2022 and people still compare who has higher dead subs number

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:15:12 No.13663938 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663898
Pretty much, remember the en blue upa competition? Neither does the girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:15:15 No.13663940 Report

Quoted By: >>13664072

>>13663559
Mario kart is a 2 days event thats only 2 gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:15:45 No.13663959 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662393
>>clips and clip VODs
>You may start, because it sounds like a horribly painful thing to numberfag.
We already have holodex doing half the work for us, we just need to push the other half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:15:56 No.13663965 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663640
they scouted haachama and she was pretty experienced already. it was probably chris.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:16:05 No.13663968 Report

Quoted By:

>>13658456
HoloMyth 3D is done though. They've made the models. Mori even got to try hers out.
They're just waiting for the borders to open up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:16:06 No.13663969 Report

Quoted By: >>13664038

is Mel's consistent stream schedule paying off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:16:46 No.13663990 Report

Quoted By: >>13664046 >>13664054

>>13663287
She was a content creator before similar to Kronii's content before. The anons here don't know that of course. She did VA clips and covers and Irl blogging all before doing Vtubing. She was probably hired because of all the content she wanted to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:17:35 No.13664010 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663853
Fubuki is still a force to be reckoned with. She just likes to take it easy and let her kouhai take the spotlight. She only takes things seriously when the situation calls upon it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:17:53 No.13664014 Report

Quoted By: >>13664189

>>13663898
No one on the EN side is addicted gambling. Sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:18:37 No.13664038 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663969
helps that her and Aki got a cinderella switch today.
i will be so fucking pissed if she goes radio silent after this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:18:58 No.13664046 Report

Quoted By: >>13664135

>>13663990
Oh? She has a past life before the past life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:19:20 No.13664054 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663990
Kronii and Bae has known each other for along time now apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:19:47 No.13664072 Report

Quoted By: >>13664122 >>13664159

>>13663940
I don't want things to be too one-sided for Hololive since that's boring. I hope kuzuha takes at least one day in December. There's no chance that he will get gold maybe even podium in November now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:21:25 No.13664122 Report

Quoted By: >>13664193

>>13664072
Too bad for you. I want to destroy Nijis so badly that they'll never have the face to ever stand on equal footing with Hololive ever again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:21:47 No.13664135 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664046
Yes. I won't share it here because it does show her face and most of it has been deleted anyways. She was more of a traditional youtuber that also did VA anime clips much like what Kronii did before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:22:32 No.13664159 Report

Quoted By: >>13664247

>>13664072
Niji gonna drop announcement and debut a wave on the same day holox style
This will get them 5 gold

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:22:46 No.13664165 Report

Quoted By: >>13664263

>>13663896
August.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:23:30 No.13664189 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664014
>Ina
Part of it has got to do with different cultural expectations and shit between Japan and EN though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:23:33 No.13664193 Report

Quoted By: >>13664236

>>13664122
I only wish for a more competitive month so that this thread is less shitty and gets people to compare between the two companies again. Comparing talents within the company is retarded since Cover is the one laughing straight to the bank. Especially if said company is all about unity and has a "no talent left behind" policy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:25:08 No.13664236 Report

Quoted By: >>13664307

>>13664193
>Cover is the one laughing
And that's an absolute win, on top of a one sided mogging of the rival company. Harmless shitflinging between branches is just minor collateral damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:25:35 No.13664247 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664159
the next wave will come from that shitty academy thing they are doing so don't expect new debuts for a good time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:26:08 No.13664263 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664165
>by 2
jesus, even their buffest month, and it was this close. if omega scheduled council differently, hololive would've won that month as well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:27:16 No.13664297 Report

Quoted By: >>13664461

Towa closing out a pretty successful month with 2 sponsored streams. This is gonna hurt her averages.
Her and Luna are streaming League spin off games. She is also doing a sponsored rainbow 6 watch-along tomorrow, Roboco has one of those today.
Sponsored streams even for midgets and low level Holos it seems.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:27:32 No.13664307 Report

Quoted By: >>13664358

>>13664236
I know Yagoo doesn't care about peasants like us but I just want a useable thread again.
it's my selfish request...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:27:59 No.13664320 Report

Quoted By: >>13664358

I don't get this insistence that this thread shouldn't ever compare performance within hololive when the same thread also seems so eager to point out how top heavy nijisanji is and compare Kuzuha's performance to the rest of the company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:29:40 No.13664358 Report

Quoted By: >>13664433 >>13664502

>>13664307
As if it's any better when Nijis does win.
>>13664320
Hololive
>Holo of a branch here
>Holo of another branch here
Nijisanji
>Kuzuha here
B
I
G

G
A
P
>the rest here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:30:13 No.13664379 Report

Quoted By:

What is the running SC this November for HoloEN and NijiEN?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:31:30 No.13664412 Report

Quoted By: >>13664435 >>13664460 >>13664482 >>13664514 >>13664884

https://youtu.be/jgp7sD2Ieec
what if Fubuki takes both silver and bronze with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:32:30 No.13664433 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664358
>As if it's any better when Nijis does win.
very true, I can there's no way to win

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:32:34 No.13664435 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664412
There is a high chance. If the Gen6 bird schedules an after talk though, it might get bronze

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:33:41 No.13664460 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664412
Nah, we know there's a decent cap on how much a ttrpg can pull, imo it's going to be
1. Lui debut
2. Fubuki pokemon shiny fishing
3. Pekora pokemon
For today unless Lui pulls a sneaky and starts early like La+ did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:33:42 No.13664461 Report

Quoted By: >>13664539 >>13664542 >>13664776 >>13664834 >>13664841

>>13664297
Kinda funny Tencent can still sponsor hololive while the rest of China gets insanely flamed if they do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:34:15 No.13664482 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664412
there's no way TTRPG is a medal stream man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:35:08 No.13664502 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664358
Comparing is still comparing, though Kuzuha has slipped so hard lately the gap doesn't look that unsurmountable anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:35:32 No.13664514 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664412
>TTRPG rurumao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:35:48 No.13664522 Report

Quoted By: >>13664554 >>13664572 >>13664579 >>13664611 >>13664746 >>13664818

So, is Laplus the Gura killer? I keep seeing it in /hlgg/ and in the catalog from seething JSLlets.
I mean, it's definitely possible, and she's rising fast, but it seems too early to tell at this stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:36:28 No.13664539 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664461
The answer is that there's a sufficient gap in Riot = Tencent to get away with it, and also that Tencent is already international and big enough to ignore a lot of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:36:30 No.13664540 Report

Quoted By: >>13664604 >>13664609 >>13664656 >>13664872

December will be stacked for Hololive as well right?
>a couple of birthdays
>a couple of debut anniversary
>it's also on december that collab ban of HoloX ends
>Myth Outfit

Plus NY/Xmas will be here. Any chances of an IRyS Outfit? She's been inclining lately and an outift will greatly help her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:36:31 No.13664542 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664461
tencent is too big to give a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:36:41 No.13664551 Report

Quoted By:

>>13663887
>>13663853

I think it's exactly the pokemon autism that's bringing in the numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:36:48 No.13664554 Report

Quoted By: >>13664611

>>13664522
Not in subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:37:22 No.13664572 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664522
If she keeps up with the kayfabe, even if she plays Apex people will watch it. People like to see cunnies raging

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:37:37 No.13664579 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664522
Give it a few months. Screams of "Gurakiller Gurakiller!" are definitely premature at this point, wait until the girl actually streams for a while first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:38:21 No.13664604 Report

Quoted By: >>13664693

>>13664540
HoloX collab will end too late to significantly affect December, they'll mainly boost January instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:38:28 No.13664609 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664540
>Any chances of an IRyS Outfit?
after six months

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:38:29 No.13664611 Report

Quoted By: >>13664628 >>13664645

>>13664522
>>13664554
Duh, if she does not speak English she'll likely never beat Gura's subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:39:16 No.13664628 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664611
Gura doesn't speak Japanese, yet has a sizeable Japanese following

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:39:51 No.13664645 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664611
Yeah, and that's why Gura will never be slain, the subs fortress is the chumbuds' impregnable refuge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:40:20 No.13664656 Report

Quoted By: >>13664689 >>13664709

>>13664540
Irys sort of slipped today's stream that something is happening. She didn't intend to. An SC was talking about what song she wants to sing for 3D and she said "oh they announced it already?" She checked holo Twitter and there was no tweet so she did a backpedal and said it was nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:41:28 No.13664689 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664656
>She checked holo Twitter and there was no tweet so she did a backpedal and said it was nothing
irys...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:41:44 No.13664693 Report

Quoted By: >>13664724 >>13664775 >>13664861

>>13664604
>boost January instead
Please another Mario Kart tournament but this time plus Ina, IRyS, Reine, Ollie, and Gen6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:42:42 No.13664709 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664656
PONrys...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:43:09 No.13664724 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664693
>Mario Kart
They're going to build up another Minecraft arc centered around welcoming gen 6 to the holoserver, like they did with gen 5 last year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:43:35 No.13664746 Report

Quoted By: >>13664788 >>13664795

>>13664522
Tribalism and number brain rot have made people downplaying how much of a smashing phenomenon Gura was, and in a lot of ways, still is. Laplus might end up being the biggest JP Holo since Gen 3, but she will not measure up to Gura. That is my opinion at least. She is off to a great start though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:44:26 No.13664775 Report

Quoted By: >>13664812 >>13664830

>>13664693
Holocup aqua suisei rematch that would be kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:44:28 No.13664776 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664461
Tencent already sponsored hololive a couple of times already
the chinks did cried about that but Tencent doesn't give a fuck about them (which is the right thing to do surprisingly, money talks)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:44:49 No.13664788 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664746
>Tribalism and number brain rot
Are you serious? Gura IS part of the reason why people here have numberrot
167k debut is smashing, but La+ still has a long way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:45:06 No.13664795 Report

Quoted By: >>13664918 >>13664985

>>13664746
I love Gura so much. She seems so sweet and genuine.
Laplus was cute and professional, but her debut seemed too fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:45:37 No.13664812 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664775
the loser gets raped by the winner again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:45:52 No.13664818 Report

Quoted By: >>13664878

>>13664522
The curse will doom this one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:46:21 No.13664830 Report

Quoted By: >>13664895 >>13665018

>>13664775
Aqua will lose, and maybe even struggle to get top 3 no doubt. The onion hasnt even touched the game since she lost to suisei

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:46:30 No.13664834 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664461
They dont give a shit lol. Tencent is getting hit too
https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3157237/china-suspends-tencent-updating-existing-apps-or-launching-new-apps

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:46:56 No.13664841 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664461
Tencent has been distancing themselves from chink gov actually, especially after tat law about gaming time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:47:38 No.13664861 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664693
>Please another Mario Kart tournament but this time plus Ina, IRyS, Reine, Ollie, and Gen6
IRyS also hinted earlier that a mario kart tournament is gonna happen soon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:48:09 No.13664872 Report

Quoted By: >>13664929

>>13664540
no including planned event like EN1 outfit or other projects the girls might be doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:48:16 No.13664878 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664818
an hour and 15 mins before debut the bird has 8.6k waiting

the cunny had 15k 90 mins before debut and 19k 60 mins before debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:48:17 No.13664879 Report

Quoted By:

Friend....38k...strong....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:48:25 No.13664884 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664412
I don't think ttrpg is that popular.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:48:29 No.13664886 Report

Quoted By: >>13664959 >>13665295

>171 clips
Holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:48:53 No.13664895 Report

Quoted By: >>13664977 >>13664986 >>13665042

>>13664830
>hasnt even touched the game since
Suisei too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:49:32 No.13664918 Report

Quoted By: >>13665006 >>13665047

>>13664795
Agreed, gura debut was so fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:49:54 No.13664929 Report

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>>13664872
>Ayame birthday
100k?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:50:52 No.13664959 Report

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>>13664886

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:51:24 No.13664977 Report

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>>13664895
Nah, she's done some gimmick MK streams since the tourney, but it is fair to say she hasn't played it a huge amount.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:51:45 No.13664985 Report

Quoted By: >>13665047

>>13664795
Gura's debut was fake af. She herself was acknowledging how she was acting like retarded loli that didn't know how to spell shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:51:47 No.13664986 Report

Quoted By:

>>13664895
Suisei has participated in another tournament hosted by Towa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:52:27 No.13665006 Report

Quoted By: >>13665053

>>13664918
La+ is overhyped and lacks breakout moments like "a" and Ride on Time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:52:58 No.13665018 Report

Quoted By: >>13665149

>>13664830
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RsCsb6sVgU
also participate in the lastest tournament (in october iirc?) and won against some of the best player by a large margin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:53:47 No.13665042 Report

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>>13664895
does switch show the latest game played as the first game ? if so, then she was playing recently..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:54:04 No.13665047 Report

Quoted By: >>13665191

>>13664985
>>13664918
Seems. Present tense.
Gura seems genuine NOW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:54:36 No.13665053 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665006
167k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 10:58:26 No.13665149 Report

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>>13665018
Your link is broken, anon. Can't open it on mobile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:00:04 No.13665191 Report

Quoted By: >>13665224 >>13665332

>>13665047
And? It doesn't really change the fact that Gura was playing up the le retard card. It alsom doesn't prove anything about Laplus. She just debuted. She can still mold into her own comfortable characterization much like Gura. Still doesn't change the fact that Laplus had better numbers even without the same buff that Gura had before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:00:57 No.13665214 Report

Quoted By: >>13665277 >>13665301 >>13665336

1 Hour to go
>10k Waiting
>Fubuki (with 36k)
>Rushia (with 10k)
>Mio (with 10k)
>Roboco (with 1.2k) & Towa (with 3k)
>Laplus left a good impression

Yep, it's a good sign for Lui's 100k (possibly 120k?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:01:12 No.13665224 Report

Quoted By: >>13665271

>>13665191
She debuted on the same day the channel was revealed, it's glaringly obvious her debut stream would be artificially buffed from the FOMO hype

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:03:03 No.13665271 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665224
Guraschizo coping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:03:11 No.13665277 Report

Quoted By: >>13665293 >>13665322

>>13665214
say the magic phrase /#/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:03:39 No.13665293 Report

Quoted By: >>13665347

>>13665277
This doesn't slip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:03:39 No.13665295 Report

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>>13664886
>after 2 streams
Holy fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:03:44 No.13665301 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665214
Please be a hag
Please be a hag
Please be a hag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:04:34 No.13665322 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665277
ILLEGAL FUNNELLING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:04:53 No.13665332 Report

Quoted By: >>13665400

>>13665191
Gura's debut has 4.6 million views

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:05:13 No.13665336 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665214
i also think it'll hit 100k but not much more than that the loli had like 9k more waiting than the bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:05:29 No.13665347 Report

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>>13665293
when's the last time Hololive slipped to Nijisanji?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:07:45 No.13665400 Report

Quoted By: >>13665435

>>13665332
Why are you qouting numbers that is 1 year old?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:09:17 No.13665435 Report

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>>13665400
That's all gura had... Nowadays it's just them sub 20k ccv

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:11:11 No.13665478 Report

Quoted By: >>13665555 >>13665639

How about numbers in picture form?

Rather than try to extrapolate anything, I took any period where Susan cut more subs than they gained and zeroed those periods out. This means if they gained e.g. 100,000 subs and Susan cut 150,000, then the graph is still missing 100,000 subs, so it is an absolute hard lower limit on Council's real sub counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:14:08 No.13665555 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665478
Bae is light blue for some reason, rest are obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:17:07 No.13665639 Report

Quoted By: >>13665714

>>13665478
No telling if people resubbed multiple times, thus being counted multiple times, so I'm not sure why you're so confident that this is an absolute hard lower limit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:19:41 No.13665714 Report

Quoted By: >>13665781

>>13665639
They could only resub if they were cut in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:21:40 No.13665772 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665735
>>13665735
>>13665735
Migrate when ready

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Nov 2021 11:22:02 No.13665781 Report

Quoted By:

>>13665714
And if they were cut multiple times they would still be counted multiple times later on since you don't actually know how many subs were cut in the periods where they gained more than was cut.

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