>>14284005If they are so good, why were they in their position for years? Orca got a boost from Eilene back in a day when it was considered a huge push and didn't manage to make them stay, Laplus had 100 CCV for more than a year, you might blame the management and the company but they have multiple talents who get 3-10 times more viewers than that, even new-ish ones. They're kind of similar to Hololive too, being an idol agency and stuff. Kind of funny that she actually jumped ship after that and began to pander (again) to Chinese, was quite popular there but dropped her activity when she got in Hololive. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets attacked from bilibili for that, they've already started to unsubcribe. Anyway, my point is, you don't actually need some extraordinary talent/charisma/whatever to flourish in Hololive as some people might think, it's not like they're taking some huge talents and hidden gems, brand game does a huge job to get them all that success. Of course they're not bad either, otherwise they wouldn't even get in any company to begin with, it's just that people overestimate vtubers who manage to get in.