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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:32:56 No.14724107 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14724213 >>14724271 >>14724545 >>14725172 >>14726431 >>14727250 >>14740100

>"Guys they won't be able to do unarchived karaoke anymore! Youtube's cracking down! It's over!"
>meanwhile my wife is literally doing unarchived karaoke right now

So that was just another load of bullshit that people made up? I really need to stop trusting this board.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:35:10 No.14724213 Report

Quoted By: >>14731293

>>14724107

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:36:21 No.14724258 Report

Quoted By: >>14724357

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:36:42 No.14724271 Report

Quoted By: >>14724597 >>14724723 >>14724921

>>14724107
It's a load of bullshit that IRYS made up

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:38:22 No.14724357 Report

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>>14724258

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:39:27 No.14724421 Report

Quoted By: >>14724485 >>14724703 >>14726681

Mumei saved EN karaoke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:40:32 No.14724485 Report

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>>14724421
thank you based mumei

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:41:39 No.14724545 Report

Quoted By: >>14724802

>>14724107
Mumei did one yesterday as well. They are using a karaoke app to circumvent Susan's garbage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:42:35 No.14724597 Report

Quoted By: >>14724632

>>14724271
what a bitch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:42:53 No.14724611 Report

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>i wanted to do some lana del rey songs but we didn't have permissions for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:43:21 No.14724632 Report

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>>14724597
She may be a bitch, but she is a cute bitch that I will always love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:44:44 No.14724703 Report

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>>14724421
What did she do
all i know is that holos used to just use lyric videos from youtube for karaoke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:45:09 No.14724723 Report

Quoted By: >>14724875

>>14724271
Cool, so can you me where she said that? She said things were changing soon regarding permissions, which they did, Cover management won't let them use youtube tracks anymore. She never said no more karaoke. People here twisted there words like you are, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:46:27 No.14724802 Report

Quoted By: >>14724858 >>14728011

>>14724545
So I'm getting the impression it uses "karaoke versions" of songs instead of the actual instrumental versions? Frankly they should have been doing that in the first place, that's the whole reason karaoke is legal and not stealing music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:47:42 No.14724858 Report

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>>14724802
Yes. Before they were just using random YouTube videos but Susan put a halt to that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:47:55 No.14724875 Report

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>>14724723
NTA but here https://vocaroo.com/1ljc8r2hSUUk

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:49:02 No.14724921 Report

Quoted By: >>14728491

>>14724271
>says permissions issues were coming up
>4chan twists it to mean she said no more karaoke
>permissions do change after all

What a lying bitch right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:50:53 No.14725002 Report

Quoted By: >>14725080

Irys wanted to sing Eurobeat songs because she got hooked on Initial D. Management told her absolutely not because of who owns those songs. I think they are just gonna blacklist lots of songs owned by certain companys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:52:02 No.14725080 Report

Quoted By: >>14725232

>>14725002
Cover doesn't like wops?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:52:15 No.14725095 Report

Quoted By: >>14725460

>I can't sing that, I don't have permissions for that
If you were watching clock's stream you'd hear that. Unarchived but still have to deal with permission autism. What even was the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:53:23 No.14725172 Report

Quoted By: >>14738076

>>14724107
>wife
I don't think she's your wife, enjoy your hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:54:37 No.14725232 Report

Quoted By: >>14726029 >>14726186

>>14725080
Saying wops makes absolutely no sense in this context, "wop" is short for "without papers" referring to Italian immigrants to America. Eurobeat singers are actual Italians living in Italy so this doesn't apply to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:58:51 No.14725460 Report

Quoted By: >>14726274

>>14725095
It's unarchived because Cover burned a bunch of bridges not allowing them to do archived karaoke streams, meanwhile Nijisanji does archived karaoke all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:02:52 No.14725684 Report

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La goblina is a lying whore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:10:24 No.14726029 Report

Quoted By: >>14726087

>>14725232
right, but does hololive have a thing against wops or not?
I don't give a fuck about being politically correct on a czech pube braiding forum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:11:45 No.14726087 Report

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>>14726029
There's being "politically correct" and then there's just being plain wrong and stupid, which is what you are. And I doubt they have anything against Italian-Americans considering they hired one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:13:59 No.14726186 Report

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>>14725232
wop is commonly used as a racial slur against italians. immigration status is irrelevant in the modern usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:16:21 No.14726274 Report

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>>14725460
Bait chama

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:17:42 No.14726334 Report

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Gura GTA stream is still up, they are the same guy who shout DMCA like a faggot on jewtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:20:17 No.14726431 Report

Quoted By:

>>14724107
>trusting this board.
fucking newfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:27:15 No.14726681 Report

Quoted By: >>14727222 >>14733960 >>14734747 >>14735480

>>14724421
Isn't it kind of ironic that people shit on Council while praising the fuck out of Myth, meanwhile it was a Council member that figured out the solution to the problem while Myth just sat on their asses doing nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:42:02 No.14727222 Report

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>>14726681
Mumei was just motivated to keep her clock wife and her rat wife happy and able to sing. I don't see it as one gen being better than another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 06:42:40 No.14727250 Report

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>>14724107
Management explained it poorly to the talent (Mumei mentioned they initially thought the plug was being pulled completely), IRyS passed the explanation on to her audience, then Mumei, Ame, and Ina had to clarify when they figured out what management was trying to tell them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 07:05:04 No.14728011 Report

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>>14724802
Nah. The reason karaoke's legal is that nobody's directly making money off of it and the way it's presented falls under private use, sort of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 07:21:20 No.14728491 Report

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>>14724921
Even before this they always had to ask manager's permission if the song was okay to sing. Nothing has changed, they're just being more careful now.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 07:26:12 No.14728644 Report

Quoted By: >>14728780

No, Irys said she cant do euro beat anymore, even un archived because of copy write.

Then it somehow turned into
>There will be no more un-archived karaoke ever.

Cause people are amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 07:30:54 No.14728780 Report

Quoted By: >>14728867 >>14732830

>>14728644
Okay, but. If she really cares about singing Eurobeat for her fans, why doesn't she just do it on a different streaming service with less strict copyright issues and no archival, like Twitter Space or something.

You know, obviously this isn't a possibility for her, but I'm on some discords for a smaller corpo, and occasionally the vtubers actually stream directly through the discord, because that's a thing you can do. So there are definitely ways around this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 07:33:51 No.14728867 Report

Quoted By: >>14731476

>>14728780
I would assume its a raw schedule conflict or something, and its enough of a hassle that shed rather just let it go than try to shuffle shit around.

It really would be nice for all of hololive to find a better streaming platform though, youtubs gone to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:08:41 No.14731010 Report

Quoted By: >>14731535

>EN karaoke playlist on YouTube gone like the wind
w-where can I find a replacement bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:28:34 No.14731293 Report

Quoted By: >>14731921

>>14724213
fairy onahole when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:40:24 No.14731476 Report

Quoted By: >>14731947

>>14728867
Yes let's just cut our potential audience by at least a factor of four, that'll help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:43:58 No.14731535 Report

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>>14731010
Most splits have a running archive, best bet is to upload them to your personal youtube unlisted

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:07:47 No.14731921 Report

Quoted By: >>14732622

>>14731293
Only one your dick is small enough to fit in, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:09:27 No.14731947 Report

Quoted By: >>14732208

>>14731476
Hence the assertion that if they cared about anything other than money, they wouldn't hesitate to move to another streaming platform with less viewers but more consumer friendly. The fact that they insist on YouTube means it's all about the money in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:25:02 No.14732208 Report

Quoted By: >>14732602

>>14731947
There's not much point to move over for "your fans" when you'll leave half of those fans behind on the other platform. People like yuuna have been trying to split streams between Twitch and YT for close to a year now and all they've been accomplishing is splitting their viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:44:58 No.14732602 Report

Quoted By: >>14732675

>>14732208
Of all examples you go with Yuuna who definitely just uses Twitch 90% of the time because YouTube is so inferior for her. Not that it even has much of an effect in her case because Tsunderia's fanbase is so small that it is almost entirely composed of really loyal people who will follow them around for every stream regardless of what platform they stream on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:45:29 No.14732622 Report

Quoted By:

>>14731921
Read carefully what you posted then try again anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:47:18 No.14732675 Report

Quoted By: >>14732756 >>14732985

>>14732602
>follow them around
That's definitely not true, which is why her YT streams average 140~ while her Twitch ones go up to 300+ or more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:49:52 No.14732756 Report

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>>14732675
And again, she hardly streams on YouTube. Pick a better example of someone trying to split streams between websites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:52:46 No.14732830 Report

Quoted By: >>14732960 >>14733039

>>14728780
Anon. Her movements aren't just hers alone. It's up for approval. Btw, eurobeat isn't her makn genre. It's just a whim that she got interested in recently. It's not the end the of the world for any of her fans if she doesn't sing any fucking eurobeat. I for one won't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:58:04 No.14732960 Report

Quoted By:

>>14732830
I however would be very unhappy if her Eurobeat karaoke disappeared LIKE A SPARK! IN THE DARK!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:59:06 No.14732985 Report

Quoted By: >>14733160

>>14732675
Also if he's talking about Twitch, I don't see much that justifies Twitch over Youtube honestly. In exchange for a more efficient player and chat and pretty much nothing else, you lose the ability to archive your streams for longer than 2 months, the ability to release music and short videos, and getting recommended from other vtuber and anime music and videos because they overlap by cover name or audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:01:23 No.14733039 Report

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>>14732830
its not about the genre, if the singer cares more about the songs because she likes them she'll sing better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:06:41 No.14733160 Report

Quoted By:

>>14732985
No, Twitch has a lot more restrictions on copyrighted audio than YouTube so it would be a very bad choice for someone like IRyS to use for the purpose of getting around YouTube's issues. That just came up in the conversation because someone mentioned Yuuna and that's what Yuuna streams on. I will say that while every advantage you mentioned of YouTube is true, Twitch has better discoverability so a small streamer will get a lot more random viewers stumbling into their stream on Twitch than they would on YouTube. But for Hololive that's not an issue so it makes a lot more sense for Hololive to use YouTube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:46:07 No.14733960 Report

Quoted By: >>14734114

>>14726681
I wasn't aware Moona was a Council member, considering it was her and her manager who found the workaround long before this shit started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:53:01 No.14734114 Report

Quoted By: >>14734541 >>14735195

>>14733960
I still remember when Irys said unarchived Karaoke is no more
The next day moona flexing that she still able to do en song karaoke
Plus mogging Orca that sing chandelier badly a day before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:08:09 No.14734541 Report

Quoted By:

>>14734114
It's just not fair comparing a Diva to a wannabe idol, anon. Also it's the natural conclusion considering Moona has been training her voice nearly everyday for literally years now.
Like, she is Irys's equal, with both of them just a step below Suisei, who's the literal top in Hololive in terms of singing, and even that position is contested considering how much Moona has improved in just a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:14:57 No.14734747 Report

Quoted By: >>14734789

>>14726681
Qrd? What's the workaround?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:16:31 No.14734789 Report

Quoted By: >>14735231

>>14734747
A third-party site/application for instrumentals. It's something Moona has been doing since June.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:23:34 No.14735000 Report

Quoted By: >>14735246

ID management is the actual batshit insane management with anything related to permissions which caused Moona to find a workaround and just as EN was about to end non archived karaoke for the time being they were informed of the workaround ID had been using which is why the arc ended before it could even start

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:30:40 No.14735195 Report

Quoted By:

>>14734114
You speak like an ESL, but you're praising Moona who is an ESL that I like. I am conflicted about how to respond to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:32:09 No.14735231 Report

Quoted By: >>14735352 >>14735402 >>14735443

>>14734789
Is YouTube's detection really that easy to fool that it doesn't pick up on a song that sounds exactly the same but is instrumental?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:32:52 No.14735246 Report

Quoted By:

>>14735000
That's because Indonesia is actually very autistic about permissions. Until now they can barely sing Indonesian songs because of those permissions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:37:16 No.14735352 Report

Quoted By: >>14735500

>>14735231
Apparently so >>14386659

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:38:55 No.14735402 Report

Quoted By: >>14735486 >>14735500

>>14735231
No, the music WILL trip the Content ID, but any copyright strike that might end up in banhammer can be reliably disputed because they now actually pay for the instrumentals.
It's the reason only Moona is the only one doing this shit in ID, because she's pretty much the only one willing to shore up the money to pay for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:40:34 No.14735443 Report

Quoted By: >>14735500

>>14735231
It's not like they can suddenly sing any songs they want. Moona said she still have to check if she has the licence to sing the song AND if it's on the karaoke app.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:41:00 No.14735457 Report

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>>14386659
>tfw it's always the third worlders fucking things up for me

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:42:13 No.14735480 Report

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>>14726681
IS THIS IT COUNCILBROS?
ARE WAGMI?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:42:24 No.14735486 Report

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>>14735402
>because she's pretty much the only one willing to shore up the money to pay for it.
Also because she's the only one that enjoys frequently doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:42:57 No.14735500 Report

Quoted By: >>14735594

>>14735352
>>14735402
>>14735443
Interesting. So the app actually costs money to use? What's it called? And does that mean Moona's like an oil baron or something that she's the only one of all six HoloIDs that can afford it?

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:46:44 No.14735594 Report

Quoted By: >>14735768 >>14735775

>>14735500
>What's it called? And does that mean Moona's like an oil baron or something that she's the only one of all six HoloIDs that can afford it?
She uses Karafun. And no, it's pretty cheap all things considered. It's just that Moona's the only one that sings English songs (and just sings in general) all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:54:52 No.14735768 Report

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>>14735594
>It's just that Moona's the only one that sings English songs (and just sings in general) all the time.
She's been doing this for what? 6 months? And she's done over 20 unarchive karaokes so I say it's a pretty good investment if you're actually as committed as Moona to singing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:55:23 No.14735775 Report

Quoted By: >>14735875

>>14735594
She uses Karafun Pro which is $50 a month.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:00:37 No.14735875 Report

Quoted By: >>14735990 >>14735994

>>14735775
Oh, this?

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:06:12 No.14735990 Report

Quoted By: >>14736047

>>14735875 (me)
Makes sense why she'd use the Pro version. Seems like the right are covered by them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:06:15 No.14735994 Report

Quoted By:

>>14735875
Yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:08:40 No.14736047 Report

Quoted By: >>14736479

>>14735990
This sounds like it'd be pretty useful for a streamer, everyone who did it the ghetto way always ran into problems like the song not being synced up or the lyrics they looked up were wrong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:26:27 No.14736479 Report

Quoted By: >>14736849

>>14736047
>This sounds like it'd be pretty useful for a streamer
It is yeah, but if I'm understanding this correctly, it seems like they had to contact an Organization first before using it for streams. That is probably why it took Moona a while before she was able to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:40:48 No.14736849 Report

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>>14736479
This is the reason I always get slightly triggered when anyone tries to talk shit about M-chan, or even comparing her to Omegatroon. The amount of shit she has to behind the scene just for Moona alone, nevermind the whole gen, is kinda mind boggling when you consider just how niche the Vtubing scene was in Indonesia when HoloID just started out. There's a fucking GOOD reason ID Gen 1 love their manager.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 14:31:00 No.14738076 Report

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>>14725172
I'll enjoy my hand... my clock hand... heh heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 15:57:37 No.14740100 Report

Quoted By: >>14742056

>>14724107
your wife has huge tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 17:02:27 No.14742056 Report

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>>14740100
YOU have huge tits!

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