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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:59:10 No.15729993 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15730077 >>15732396 >>15733169 >>15733430 >>15734450 >>15736082 >>15739999 >>15740815 >>15742180 >>15742423 >>15747020 >>15747469

>And I mean you are men
>So we tend to think most of your fans are women
>It's why we can't just reach out for collabs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0DJgv8Cmdc

Is this an excuse or do the girls truly believe this? Subaru once said something similar about Roberu when asked about a collab. But Holostars collab with women all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:00:39 No.15730077 Report

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>>15729993
it's the stock answer given by the management, don't think too hard about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:05:22 No.15730456 Report

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It's a throwaway answer to avoid addressing the elephant in the room. In the end, hololive fanbase will never accept them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:09:02 No.15730810 Report

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It's a socially acceptable excuse to hide they're avoiding the boys only for their own sakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:23:30 No.15732396 Report

Quoted By: >>15742476

>>15729993
Well Matsuri's and FBK's numbers were tanking at a time that roughly correlates with then interacting with the Holostars, there were other reasons but maybe the homos kind of feel a bit guilty and use this as an excuse to turn down the girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:29:22 No.15732861 Report

Quoted By: >>15733230 >>15750423 >>15751052 >>15754999

Well, it's the polite answer. But the NijiEN homos actually do tend to get worse numbers when they collab with the girls because their audiences don't overlap, lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:32:16 No.15733169 Report

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>>15729993
Generic canned response, don't think too much about it, apart from a couple of groupings I don't see collabs to be as entertaining as the ones they have anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:32:52 No.15733230 Report

Quoted By: >>15739794

>>15732861
Oh boy women are much more hostile to each other than males. They just kinda act different when you anger them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:34:53 No.15733430 Report

Quoted By: >>15733965 >>15734098 >>15742576 >>15744233 >>15744315 >>15744405

>>15729993
It is and that's pretty normal, female vtuber fans are bad news. Just look at Niji, Lain got into huge trouble yesterday because she was alone with Kuzuha for like 5 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:40:45 No.15733965 Report

Quoted By: >>15735812

>>15733430
Meanwhile Vox is thirsting for Reimu and Petra like he's trying to reignite the British Empires Colonial days and his female fanbase basically cum in chat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:42:05 No.15734098 Report

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>>15733430
Dumb eop

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:44:59 No.15734450 Report

Quoted By: >>15734702 >>15735954 >>15736085

>>15729993
>Roberu
Collabs with 774 not Hololive, now how the 774 girls handle their fanbase who knows but that just isn't the Cover way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:46:58 No.15734702 Report

Quoted By: >>15734833 >>15734953 >>15735290

>>15734450
Roberu MIGHT be shadow banned from Bae collabs, since the last impromptu collab in Apex with her and Ollie basically had Bae wet and panting like a dog in heat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:48:17 No.15734833 Report

Quoted By: >>15735381

>>15734702
He literally invited her to come to Bar Robel just recently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:49:53 No.15734953 Report

Quoted By: >>15735381

>>15734702
>Calls in to his Christmas totsu
>invited to Bar Robel
>Asks him what he wants for Christmas (he wants a 6IV ditto rumao)
yeah I think not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:53:17 No.15735290 Report

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>>15734702
They'll be fine, the normal rule of thumb for streamers (vtubers) is if you have to or more of one sex (gender) and one of the other you don't have to worry about unicorns raging at BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND shit. I believe this is one of the tactics some of the most popular guys use if they absolutely have to have a female stream with them.

This worked well with FBK, Festival,Rikka, Roberu and the OlliexRoberuxBae impromtu was well received.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:54:41 No.15735381 Report

Quoted By: >>15735532 >>15735738

>>15734833
>>15734953
until it happens, the shadowban stays

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:56:12 No.15735532 Report

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>>15735381
>until it happens my baseless headcannon stays

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:58:12 No.15735738 Report

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>>15735381
>shadowban
Who's doing the ban? Omegatron literally take break from twitter to help Holostars live

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:59:09 No.15735812 Report

Quoted By: >>15736014 >>15742499 >>15743358

>>15733965
>Vox thirsting for Reimu
>Not the other way around
ogey

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:01:03 No.15735954 Report

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>>15734450
>now how the 774 girls handle their fanba
>Haneru: are you okay with Yukoku Roberu fucking all animare?
https://youtu.be/AvNnBOOh7fo?t=988
Yes she asked the crowd at 774inc comiket booth and yes it's also streamed live on official channel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:01:53 No.15736014 Report

Quoted By: >>15744187

>>15735812
Petra is the one thirsting for Vox.
She was even talking about how much her "friend" has it "down bad" for him, catches all the streams, wonders if he's single etc. the other day.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:02:35 No.15736082 Report

Quoted By: >>15742489 >>15743352 >>15745350

>>15729993
She's not wrong.
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/12583891

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:02:41 No.15736085 Report

Quoted By: >>15738445

>>15734450
OP is referring to Subaru being asked to do a collab with Roberu, but she said his female fans might not like that, which is obviously nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:36:38 No.15738445 Report

Quoted By: >>15739056 >>15739114 >>15739299 >>15739362 >>15739589 >>15740048 >>15740319 >>15740503 >>15740899 >>15755085

>>15736085
How the fuck is that nonsense? Roberu fans are okay with him collabing with the 774 but not with him collabing with Subaru, just like Kuzuha fans being okay with him collabing with Himawari or Mito but not with Lain, Ibrahim fans being okay with him collabing with girls but they absolutely despise his trans genmate, or like Kenmochi fans being okay with him collabing with girls but sperged out when he collabed with bootleg Holo like Ui-mama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:45:20 No.15739056 Report

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>>15738445
>Ibrahim fans being okay with him collabing with girls but they absolutely despise his trans genmate
Based Ibrahim fangirls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:46:24 No.15739114 Report

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>>15738445
>not with Lain
No one cares
You could replace her with Hisui though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:49:47 No.15739299 Report

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>>15738445
I don't know why you're trying so hard to push this thing with Lain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:50:06 No.15739314 Report

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No, the Fujos are batshit insane. Even your typical unicorn just doesn't want to see flirting, but ANY female in proximity to the tuber they like causes the femcel to metldown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:50:56 No.15739362 Report

Quoted By: >>15739584

>>15738445
>but not with him collabing with Subaru

Says who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:55:07 No.15739584 Report

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>>15739362
no one, his whole post is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:55:10 No.15739589 Report

Quoted By: >>15740780 >>15741421 >>15742857

>>15738445
>Roberu fans are okay with him collabing with the 774 but not with him collabing with Subaru
What's the difference between Bae, Ollie, Anya, Matsuri, Suisei, Fubuki, and specifically Subaru? What's the difference between Fubuki and Subaru? What's the difference between Suisei and Subaru?
There's only one difference, and that's from Subaru's audience. Not Roberu's. It's in Subaru's perceived self interest, not Roberu's fan base being upset.

The only Holostars who believably could have unicorns is perhaps Izuru or Shien. The rest of them is just the girls protecting themselves at the cost of the boys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:55:26 No.15739604 Report

Quoted By: >>15740042 >>15749854

Female fans can be just as unhinged as the male fans, they aren't so different.
Go to any primarily female fandom and you will see. They hate other women the most.
The main difference is they won't drop their oshi like a rock if he flirts with a girl, they will just make hate mobs against the succubus that seduced him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:58:33 No.15739794 Report

Quoted By: >>15739898

>>15733230
I don't understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:59:29 No.15739840 Report

Quoted By: >>15744849

I get that you guys like your oshis and want to believe that they are all very kind, but this is just an excuse to get out of collabing and no amount of mental gymnastics about fans of male chuubas will change that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:00:30 No.15739898 Report

Quoted By: >>15739974 >>15740784

>>15739794
Go to /cgl/ for a while. Educate yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:00:33 No.15739901 Report

Quoted By: >>15740192

I thought the excuse was that the girls were too shy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:02:14 No.15739974 Report

Quoted By: >>15740065 >>15740401 >>15740784 >>15745925

>>15739898
Girls are actually really nice to each other

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:02:46 No.15739999 Report

Quoted By: >>15741076 >>15745467

>>15729993
Does Sora have unicorns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:03:38 No.15740042 Report

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>>15739604
100% right they are even worse. Look at some of those kpop groups, the women are absolute psychos and will act they way publically on twitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:03:48 No.15740048 Report

Quoted By: >>15747796

>>15738445
>brahim fans being okay with him collabing with girls but they absolutely despise his trans genmate
Melissa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:04:14 No.15740065 Report

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>>15739974
Maybe mentally well off girls. The kinds of femcels that obsess over vtubers, or otherwise lose themselves to fandoms? Not so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:06:36 No.15740192 Report

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>>15739901
The excuse is whatever beating around the bush tactic works. They shouldn't say things that imply the issue is on the boys' end, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:08:58 No.15740319 Report

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>>15738445
What the fuck is wrong with Nijisanji fans? I'm willing to bet management doesn't step in when the girls are getting harassed either since the guys are more popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:10:09 No.15740401 Report

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>>15739974
LOL

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:11:49 No.15740503 Report

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>>15738445
For fucks sake you little bitch, just accept that the holomem don't want to collab with the males and use flimsy excuses, instead of just spouting off about shit you don't know anything about. You stupid nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:16:50 No.15740780 Report

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>>15739589
>The rest of them is just the girls protecting themselves at the cost of the boys.
>at the cost of the boys.
????

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:16:53 No.15740784 Report

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>>15739974
>Girls are actually really nice to each other
Which only applies if they can somewhat stand each other and are mentally sound. Anon's example >>15739898 is on the more extreme end, but definitely shows that things can get really ugly if they're losing themselves in the drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:17:34 No.15740815 Report

Quoted By: >>15740899

>>15729993
Why keep up these excuses when the literal face of the company doesn't care and collabs with the guys? It's better to dodge the topic entirely instead of throwing out excuses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:19:15 No.15740899 Report

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>>15740815
Because retards like >>15738445 will buy it and make up excuses for the girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:22:31 No.15741076 Report

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>>15739999
I doubt it. Soratomo generally have kind of a sexless relationship with their oshi, sort of like kids with their mother or older sister. Having a problem with Sora collabing with men would mean admitting that she's a sexual being, and for a lot of them that's just gross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:23:15 No.15741111 Report

Quoted By: >>15741202

I dunno about any of that shit, but Sora is based as fuck and so is Aruran. That's all I need to know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:25:12 No.15741202 Report

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>>15741111
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:25:19 No.15741216 Report

Quoted By: >>15741321 >>15741429 >>15741466 >>15741511 >>15741660 >>15741980 >>15742432

What went so wrong in hololive that nijisanji can have males and females collab without it being controversial but it is for them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:27:33 No.15741321 Report

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>>15741216
>wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:29:14 No.15741421 Report

Quoted By: >>15743477 >>15743624 >>15755143

>>15739589
You have to be buttfuck retarded to be a gachikoi for Izuru, he specifically hates fangirl shit and will roast you on stream. Shien has collabed with women several times and will continue to do so, so he has weeded out any fans who would have a problem with that. Only once in the history of Holostars was there a subsect of possessive female fans that tried to tell Astel not to interact with women, and Astel publicly crucified them. Hololive management is making shit up, or the girls are making up their own rrats about the Holostars having possessive gachis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:29:19 No.15741429 Report

Quoted By: >>15743350

>>15741216
It isn't controversial, there has never been a controversy. Some holomem have built up a fanbase that is made up of gachikois and unicorns so they fear that they'd lose a bunch of potential profit if they collabed with males. But if you ask me, for most holomem there wouldn't actually be a huge controversy, just a loss of some SCs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:30:00 No.15741466 Report

Quoted By: >>15741506 >>15747089 >>15750328

>>15741216
They unironically should've never made Holostars. It doesn't make sense to this day since it goes against their own model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:30:43 No.15741506 Report

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>>15741466
>It doesn't make sense to this day since it goes against their own model.
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:30:45 No.15741511 Report

Quoted By: >>15741596 >>15741746 >>15742367

>>15741216
Hololive consistently caters to idolfags because they'll shell out as much cash as they can for their oshi as long as they never collab with a man. Only a few of the girls in Hololive (excluding ID) don't care about the unicorns. It's sad, but if that's the only way they can milk those unicorns dry, you might as well kneel to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:32:32 No.15741596 Report

Quoted By: >>15745864

>>15741511
Please don't use unicorn and idolfag interchangeably, that's 2 completely different things

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:33:55 No.15741660 Report

Quoted By: >>15744957

>>15741216
I wouldn't say it's controversial but didn't they explicitly ban the men from collabing with the girls for a short while when they debuted? Of course they went back on that, but when you do it once you're putting everyone in a weird spot when it's lifted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:35:27 No.15741746 Report

Quoted By: >>15741872 >>15742019 >>15743523

>>15741511
Everyone says this like it's gospel on /vt/ but unless you are Rushia or Lamy (or someone else who actively caters to unicorns) I genuinely don't believe that the majority of a chuuba's paypigs think like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:38:02 No.15741872 Report

Quoted By: >>15741923 >>15741952 >>15742095

>>15741746
According to /vt/ it's been proven time and time again that not interacting with guys at all will lead to more success than those that do interact with guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:39:02 No.15741923 Report

Quoted By: >>15741994 >>15742039

>>15741872
>According to /vt/
Numbers don't lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:39:38 No.15741952 Report

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>>15741872
>according to /vt/
That's the point, that's what I'm disagreeing with. /vt/ has been wrong about many things many times over and anons move goalposts every day.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:40:18 No.15741980 Report

Quoted By: >>15742131

>>15741216
>wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:40:38 No.15741994 Report

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>>15741923
Numbers are the biggest lie, especially coming from jewgle and jewtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:41:02 No.15742019 Report

Quoted By: >>15742332 >>15743596

>>15741746
I'm sure there are many lonely salarymen who sacrificed real life action for a good career and high salary and I'm told Rushia and Lamy cater to them. But I've often wondered just how many of the paypigs are either just rich reasonably well-adjusted people who have the cash to dump on their entertainment or gone far enough that there is nothing that could shake their trust in their oshi. Certainly the NEETs spending their days on 4ch or 5ch complaining about male collabs aren't paying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:41:30 No.15742039 Report

Quoted By: >>15742148 >>15742204

>>15741923
And they spell disaster

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:42:28 No.15742095 Report

Quoted By: >>15742449

>>15741872
It depends on the fanbase and the girl, no two chuba's fandoms will have the same reaction to male collabs and trying to create some sort of universal code is pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:43:14 No.15742131 Report

Quoted By: >>15742431

>>15741980
Uifag...
https://youtu.be/XUeXzPyGt_w

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:43:29 No.15742148 Report

Quoted By:

>>15742039
Yeah, collabing with a homo is a disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:44:16 No.15742180 Report

Quoted By:

>>15729993
Don't underestimate female unicorn fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:44:46 No.15742204 Report

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>>15742039
HE'S FAT!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:46:09 No.15742267 Report

Quoted By: >>15742377 >>15742884

Please....Holostars....stop inviting the girls to these things....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:47:42 No.15742332 Report

Quoted By: >>15743596

>>15742019
Exactly, some people are just richfags who like to dump money on chuubas they like. Unless you are a chuuba like Rushia and you love grooming unicorns to forfeit their life savings for you, I don't think most paypigs are unicorns. I also agree that most of the unicorns on this basket weaving forum are probably all grey names who never donate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:48:33 No.15742367 Report

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>>15741511
>It's sad
What's the sad thing about this??? I'm pretty sure you're beggar who don't even watch any stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:48:54 No.15742377 Report

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>>15742267
bruh....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:49:54 No.15742423 Report

Quoted By: >>15742601 >>15742663

>>15729993
reminder female unicorns are worse than the males and nijisanji has experienced this first hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:50:05 No.15742431 Report

Quoted By:

>>15742131
Ui mama is lesbian

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:50:10 No.15742432 Report

Quoted By:

>>15741216
>Nijisanji
>Never made a big deal about it, their streamers are called livers
>Hololive
>Created the stars
>Brutally handcuffed them and basically gave them a giant list of shit they couldn't do
>Finally relented after almost a year
>Gachikoi paypigs where already in place so they simply couldn't do a 180

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:50:37 No.15742449 Report

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>>15742095
But anon, that's too rational. We can't have that on /vt/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:51:28 No.15742476 Report

Quoted By: >>15742543

>>15732396
>Well Matsuri's and FBK's numbers were tanking at a time that roughly correlates with then interacting with the Holostars
No it doesn't you retard, Fubuki was never a numbers queen till recently and Matsuri's numbers have been tanking for ages due to her nonstop apex fest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:51:46 No.15742489 Report

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>>15736082
You really think guys would go to these events?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:52:01 No.15742499 Report

Quoted By: >>15743358

>>15735812
Reimu is a femcel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:52:51 No.15742543 Report

Quoted By: >>15742619

>>15742476
>Fubuki was never a numbers queen till recently
WRONG ON SO MANY LEVEL, RETARD
>Matsuri's numbers have been tanking for ages due to her nonstop apex fest.
WRONG ON SO MANY LEVEL AGAIN, RETARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:53:40 No.15742576 Report

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>>15733430
She got shit on because she was winning and she's labeled a sexual harasser by her retard antis because she's a fujoshi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:54:12 No.15742601 Report

Quoted By: >>15743077 >>15744460 >>15747188

>>15742423
iirc recently NijiEN male member asked fans not to draw fanart of him with the girl so to be considerate?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:54:47 No.15742619 Report

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>>15742543
Wow you sure showed me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:55:44 No.15742663 Report

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>>15742423
No, unicorns are meaningless besides their monetary power and have never done anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:58:34 No.15742791 Report

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I dunno about all this shit but I think it was really nice of Sora to call in and say such lovely things. She is a true pure idol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:00:00 No.15742838 Report

Quoted By:

>Having Sora of all people say this bullshit
Christ just graduate the entire branch if you're gonna be this disingenous. What a bunch of bullshit.

Just go all in on your idol trash/gfe shit and keep milking the paypigs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:00:09 No.15742857 Report

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>>15739589
Holostars have publically shit on unicorns. The only people who unicorn for Izuru are retarded EOPs who don't know what he's saying and are too stupid to watch clips

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:00:35 No.15742884 Report

Quoted By: >>15742996

>>15742267
If you're talking about OP he didn't invite anyone, the callers come if they please, he even had some dude from NijiKR he's never spoken to before call in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:02:39 No.15742996 Report

Quoted By: >>15743080 >>15743402

>>15742884
You're telling me Sora invited herself to this thing, shat on the guys and says no one wants to deal with their supposed unicorns, and left? basically spewing rrats?
Why do people want Holostars to collab with Hologirls if they're this ignorant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:04:18 No.15743077 Report

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>>15742601
That's pretty standard, especially in JP fandoms, het ship fanart tends to be frowned upon, same with male lewds or lewds that involve a male that isn't a self insert or a non-descriptive one.
And considering how much several of NijiEN's livers are into JP and their chuubas stuff that request is not really surprising.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:04:23 No.15743080 Report

Quoted By: >>15743214

>>15742996
honestly I think it goes to show how sheltered Sora is... She's been in her tiny little idol bubble for so long that she had no idea that was a 'back stage' comment. But yeah, very rude either intentionally or unintentionally

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:07:22 No.15743214 Report

Quoted By: >>15747329

>>15743080
It's just hurtful especially to Aruran who's worked hard to make connections outside of Holostars, and now she comes in and tells everyone no one wants to see female collabs due to a female audience, when he did just fine with Lain and others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:10:27 No.15743350 Report

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>>15741429
>It isn't controversial, there has never been a controversy.
why do newfags alwqys talk so onfidently qbout shit they know nothing about
just baffling honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:10:28 No.15743352 Report

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>>15736082
This is (was?) literally the only female holostar fan in the entire world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:10:37 No.15743358 Report

Quoted By:

>>15735812
>>15742499
kindrer girls seething lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:11:15 No.15743376 Report

Quoted By: >>15744591

reminder /vt/ is the place where social autists gossip about 2d character

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:11:47 No.15743402 Report

Quoted By: >>15743544

>>15742996
If you watch the whole thing she's obviously not being malicious at all and Aruran even comments on how nice she (and "everyone in Hololive") is. But obviously he's not going to correct her on stream especially with how happy he was that she came, so it's hard to say how the boys really feel about comments like that, they never talk about it and more often show happiness when they're acknowledged by the girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:13:37 No.15743476 Report

Quoted By: >>15743489 >>15743559

Nobody cares about these homos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:13:39 No.15743477 Report

Quoted By: >>15743676

>>15741421
If the Homos are driving away their core audience it explains a lot about how bad they're doing. Luxiem is kicking the absolute shit out of them and that's probably why. The Hololive girls don't realize that the Homos are sabotaging themselves and it's not really their fault if they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:14:04 No.15743489 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743476

I care

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:15:06 No.15743523 Report

Quoted By: >>15744312

>>15741746
>Everyone says this like it's gospel on /vt/ but unless you are Rushia or Lamy (or someone else who actively caters to unicorns) I genuinely don't believe that the majority of a chuuba's paypigs think like that
Because you spend your time in an EOP echo chamber. Idols have literally been sued for dating by their companies and broke down and shaved their heads before for being found out. I'm talking within the last decade, not some far off 1980s shit either.
Also, many holos asked their chat if they're okay with male collabs. The answer was always "no". Learn Japanese

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:15:34 No.15743544 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743402
>they have to literally larp along in front of the audience cuz they're coworkers
>omg they are so genuine
Retard, btw wrestling is fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:16:01 No.15743559 Report

Quoted By: >>15743653

>>15743476
Dozens of people care. It's just bizarre that they are so obsessed to have them collab with my oshi.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:16:36 No.15743596 Report

Quoted By: >>15743637 >>15743731 >>15743790 >>15744219 >>15746169 >>15746275

>>15742019
>>15742332
This was posted by a unicorn recently

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:17:22 No.15743619 Report

Quoted By: >>15743845 >>15743941 >>15747437

someday karma will hit girls like Rushia and Lamy for manipulating unicorns minds, lonely and desperate guys are mentally unstable and dangerous when they feel hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:17:28 No.15743624 Report

Quoted By:

>>15741421
So that's why holostars haven't inclined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:17:38 No.15743637 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743596

All me, btw

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:17:55 No.15743652 Report

Quoted By: >>15743801

Not sure of what's going on here but Izuru's bussy will be mine after I join StarsEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:17:55 No.15743653 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743559
Homobeggars have always been a thing. It's strange that they keep trying to claim being allowed to leech off Hololive is the path to success for them when we know Fubuki has been trying to drag Oga up on her back for months to no avail. The Hololive audience has zero interest in watching Holostars, they need to build their own audience

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:18:34 No.15743676 Report

Quoted By: >>15743781

>>15743477
Luxiem has gachi pandering on lock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:19:42 No.15743731 Report

Quoted By: >>15743798

>>15743596
>Matsuri
>Fubuki

If he was a true Hololive unicorn he would ignore every girl who so much as breathed in the homo's direction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:20:49 No.15743781 Report

Quoted By: >>15743881 >>15743927 >>15744887 >>15745350 >>15745585 >>15745591 >>15747186 >>15747437

>>15743676
>Homostars shoo away fujos and women
>Stuck with sub 1k views for over a year
>Luxiem pander unceasingly to their thirsty female fanbase
>Beating out some Hololive members in views
It's honestly amazing how fucking retarded the Homostars are. Same with Homostar fans who think claiming they insult their own core audience will endear them to Hololive fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:21:08 No.15743790 Report

Quoted By: >>15743870 >>15743955

>>15743596
That's definitely terrible, but he's still dropping single digit supas so he's not completely mindless about his spending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:21:24 No.15743798 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743731
Go ask them yourself if you want, I only know what they said

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:21:28 No.15743801 Report

Quoted By: >>15744075

>>15743652
Izuru and Miyabi should be allowed to collab with the girls, they and their fans won't be able to tell they're males.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:22:53 No.15743845 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743619
>manipulating
>he doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:23:47 No.15743870 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743790
Reminds me of the time Lamy talked about how one of her unemployed fans kept throwing red superchats at her
https://youtu.be/_9ns_CER4Ic?t=174

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:24:08 No.15743881 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743781
But Shien and Oga pander to their thirsty fans all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:25:10 No.15743927 Report

Quoted By: >>15743963 >>15744861 >>15745669

>>15743781
This just loops back to the question of
>what are the holostars supposed to be?
Are they idols? Variety stremers? Gamer bros for friendless men? Virtual gigolos for women?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:25:33 No.15743941 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743619
>manipulating
I want them to act like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:25:53 No.15743955 Report

Quoted By: >>15744049 >>15745131

>>15743790
Still though, that's *one* guy, and he's on 4chan sonprssumably an English speaker. And they were still a hardcore gachikoi. JOP are even more gachikoi than EOPs by far and probably drop more than that. If you risk losing god knows how many of this type of viewer just by collabing with somebody you honestly have no particular reason to, why would you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:26:02 No.15743963 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743927
Nobody knows. They're Yagoos pet project and that's all they need to be to survive. The lack of focus definitely hurts them though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:29:10 No.15744049 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743955
Because this man oppresses the girls, they need to save my based boys and stop acting like sluts REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:29:54 No.15744075 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743801
Shogun only needs to talk in his girly voice and the viewers will think he is a female indie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:32:55 No.15744187 Report

Quoted By: >>15744280 >>15748029

>>15736014
that's kind of pathetic, how does she have a male audience... or more like how long can she keep her mostly male audience while acting this way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:33:36 No.15744219 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743596
Wait I think I know who this is lmao
Why did they say love you and that they're a girlfriend to lamy while being a rushia gachikoi?
Cmon my dude at least hold yourself to consistent standards you hold the girls to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:33:49 No.15744233 Report

Quoted By:

>>15733430
Stop listening to 5ch. Lain is not getting bashed by fucking women of all people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:34:52 No.15744280 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744187
>how does she have an audience
Thats what her father wants to know too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:35:51 No.15744312 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743523
>Many Holos
Name some names. Post sauce. If it's Rushia or Pekora or someone like that then it doesn't count because they cater specifically to unicorns so the answer is obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:35:55 No.15744315 Report

Quoted By: >>15744482 >>15744620

>>15733430
Isn't Kuzuha living with his girlfriend Mikoto? (who actually also got attacked when people heard Kuzuha during her ASMR stream, she got 10K dislikes or something crazy like that) perhaps they hate cheaters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:38:08 No.15744405 Report

Quoted By:

>>15733430
No she didn't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:39:49 No.15744460 Report

Quoted By:

>>15742601
He said not to ship him with the girls or draw lewd art of him with them because he's not comfortable seeing his coworkers like that. He's closer to the guys and they joke about that kind of stuff a lot so it's less of an issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:40:14 No.15744482 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744315
It's a rrat that even Japan and Suki kira have gotten tired of, this board is the only place that pushes it this hard. I'm sick of this faggot who also keeps saying everyone hates Lain, I don't know what his goal is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:43:14 No.15744591 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743376
When you put it this way, it does sound really pathetic. But it's also fun watching from the sideline lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:44:04 No.15744620 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744315
Nope. But idk I guess you're the kinda guy that also believes that Gura lives with a 6'6 black man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:49:49 No.15744849 Report

Quoted By: >>15745134

>>15739840
We don't want them to collab with m*les though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:50:09 No.15744861 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743927
They're idols, eops are just retarded and pigeonholes all idols as unicorn panderers.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:50:45 No.15744887 Report

Quoted By: >>15744963 >>15745015 >>15745202 >>15745232 >>15745249

>>15743781
Yeah seeing those clips of that black haired holostar straight up seething and insulting his fans really made me have absolutely zero sympathy for their struggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:53:08 No.15744957 Report

Quoted By: >>15745232

>>15741660
collab ban after debut is a standard practice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:53:23 No.15744963 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744887
I subscribed to him after that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:54:40 No.15745015 Report

Quoted By: >>15745349

>>15744887
Where’s the clip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:57:26 No.15745131 Report

Quoted By: >>15745517

>>15743955
Nigga even in Japan they are a minority. It's just that some of them have more money and act like schizos so people feel inclined to listen to them. Literal Jew tier behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:57:30 No.15745134 Report

Quoted By: >>15745225

>>15744849
That's fine, but don't make up rrats for why they wouldn't do it when it's obvious that they fear losing out on some money. I don't get all the collab begging either it's fucking retarded

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 03:59:25 No.15745202 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744887
Based Izuru filtering idiots like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:00:03 No.15745225 Report

Quoted By: >>15745272 >>15745452

>>15745134
>I don't get all the collab begging either it's fucking retarded
its cuz i dont give a fuck about the women and the guys deserve their subs and views more than they do

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:00:14 No.15745232 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744957
The Stars had a full ban during their first couple of month until early December of 2019 when Cover consolidated all branches under Hololive Production. Basically only Gen 1 was under that ban.

>>15744887
You mean putting the annoying fans who can't stop asking to be singled out and treated specially on their place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:00:39 No.15745249 Report

Quoted By: >>15745521

>>15744887
If (You) had to deal with annoying teenage girls you would roast them too anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:01:15 No.15745272 Report

Quoted By: >>15745280

>>15745225
>guys deserve their subs and views more than they do
Why? Because you want to suck their dick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:01:37 No.15745280 Report

Quoted By: >>15745306 >>15745345

>>15745272
Because dudes rock and women fucking suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:02:34 No.15745306 Report

Quoted By: >>15746461

>>15745280
Izuru is one step in the door to becoming trans if you listen to his Twitter spaces

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:03:44 No.15745345 Report

Quoted By: >>15745395

>>15745280
I have an exactly opposite opinion. Now what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:03:50 No.15745349 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745015
I can only think of this one since it's been posted here before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QyZ5ZY5uzA

In which all he's doing is calling out a fan who's upset they're not getting special treatment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:03:51 No.15745350 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743781
>>15736082

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:05:01 No.15745395 Report

Quoted By: >>15745504 >>15745599

>>15745345
Are you a woman? If so, you're a stupid bitch and I hate you. If not, why do you hate yourself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:05:37 No.15745418 Report

Quoted By:

The stars are okay but I'd still rather not see the holos I like collabing with any men, sorry.
Though if I had to pick any I sure would pick the JP stars over any other guys, especially western ecelebs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:06:05 No.15745452 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745225
Nice to see the mask come off. The typical homostar fan.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:06:17 No.15745467 Report

Quoted By:

>>15739999
yes, me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:07:17 No.15745504 Report

Quoted By: >>15745541 >>15745550

>>15745395
I don't hate myself or my friends but every other male is trash and should be beaten with hammer. Including Homostars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:07:39 No.15745517 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745131
I've never seen any evidence for a minority of paypigs being gachikoi who care about that stuff. Some people /here/ say that but they will literally only support that claim by saying "it's cringe therefore most people aren't like that"
Ignore reality at your leisure I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:07:43 No.15745521 Report

Quoted By: >>15746075

>>15745249
wow how smart, antagonizing your audience is sure to work out well right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:08:03 No.15745541 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745504
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:08:18 No.15745550 Report

Quoted By: >>15745647

>>15745504
You're bitter because you put pussy on a pedestal. Sad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:08:51 No.15745585 Report

Quoted By: >>15745641 >>15745906

>>15743781
Luxiem collabs with women though, and the fujos don't care as long as they are catered to from time to time. Only male unicorns get mad about interacting with males, which is a stupid since the only idol limit is supposed to be having a boyfriend, not existing in the same space as a male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:08:58 No.15745591 Report

Quoted By: >>15745641 >>15745692

>>15743781
doesn't luxiem flirt with with girls too? If anything this proves that as long as you pander to your fans in the end, you can collab with anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:09:08 No.15745599 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745395
I'm not any other male, I'm me. The only male that matters, aside from the ones I choose to care about on a whim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:10:00 No.15745641 Report

Quoted By: >>15745693 >>15745705

>>15745585
>>15745591
Newsflash you can pander towards women while also collabing with women, Luxiem even have their girlfriends modded in their chats, women will consume anything with cute anime boys on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:10:09 No.15745647 Report

Quoted By: >>15745789

>>15745550
I put myself on a pedastal and all the pussy belongs to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:10:44 No.15745669 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743927
YAGOO is a saviourfag. He lost interest in his girls once they started blowing up and left them in A-chan's hands so he could focus on saving men who need to do 8-hour daily streams just to make what Pekora brings in from 5 minutes of idle banter.
If Holostars ever succeeds, he'll abandon it, too. Probably start a vtuber group strictly for mute cripples or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:11:30 No.15745692 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745591
Shien and Oga also pander to fangirls and fujos and they don't care that both of them collab with women. Fujos just aren't as picky as unicorns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:11:31 No.15745693 Report

Quoted By: >>15745830

>>15745641
Which Luxiem has their girlfriends modded in chat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:11:44 No.15745705 Report

Quoted By: >>15745778

>>15745641
so woman fans are homewreckers while male fans want loyalty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:13:21 No.15745778 Report

Quoted By: >>15745906

>>15745705
No, unicorns are just schizos and fujos know their gosling behavior is just larp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:13:37 No.15745789 Report

Quoted By: >>15746293

>>15745647
Damn right and other males are competition to be crushed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:14:34 No.15745830 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745693
Luca and Vox, the two with the most yumejo pandering

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:15:27 No.15745864 Report

Quoted By: >>15745931

>>15741596
Not the person you replied to but could you give me the differences?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:16:43 No.15745906 Report

Quoted By: >>15745997 >>15746115 >>15746215

>>15745585
>>15745778
You should really get over it. Unicorns run this shit because they spend the most $$$. They will never stop being pandered to so it's pointless to seethe about it. You think Rushia is ever going to give up her spot as the top superchat earner just to collab with Shien or Oga more? Wake up.

Money talks and gachikois spend the most money

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:17:04 No.15745925 Report

Quoted By:

>>15739974
retard alert

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:17:08 No.15745931 Report

Quoted By: >>15746566 >>15746843

>>15745864
idolfag= cares about irl relationtip status at the current moment
unicorn= idolfag, but also wants oshi to be a virgin too/no previous relationship

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:18:54 No.15745997 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745906
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:20:48 No.15746075 Report

Quoted By: >>15746121

>>15745521
I mean, when you don't deal with them in advance they're only going to get worse. For example, Dream Minecraft

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:22:05 No.15746115 Report

Quoted By: >>15746688

>>15745906
Fucking look at Lamy. She skyrocketed to upper level SC rankings in Hololive despite being Gen 5. So did Nene, BUT ONLY after she committed to the "my fans are husbands" bit(and let her fans talk her out of ever even mentioning homos). Meanwhile Polka with obviouz male collabs on her roommate and Botan with her lack of gachikoi pandering and an open invitation to homos, are not up there.

GACHIKOI PANDERING WORKS. retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:22:26 No.15746121 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746075
His situation is entirely his fault. Imagine if a vtuber you followed made tweets and kneeled to any random 0 follower anti who had a made up issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:23:52 No.15746169 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743596
Why is anon a whore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:25:03 No.15746215 Report

Quoted By: >>15746307

>>15745906
Rushia's paypigs are gachikoi because that's her audience. Her paypigs would be different if she catered to a different audience. That's not exactly rocket science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:26:22 No.15746275 Report

Quoted By: >>15746356 >>15746564

>>15743596
That's a lot of small donations. I think I spent more in December than this guy did all year, and 99% of my SC go to one girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:26:48 No.15746293 Report

Quoted By: >>15746600

>>15745789
I can feel sympathy for the males I like, but not enough to let them fuck the women I like. I wouldn't feel right cucking a friend, either. But random ass dudes? Fuck em. If I feel a comradery with someone it means my superior brain that I put on a pedestal decided they were worth giving a fuck about. Ironically, it's why I respect unicorns enough to not fuck an active idol given the chance. I don't want to cuck dudes who are sensible enough to hate that shit. We have enough fucking cucks as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:27:11 No.15746307 Report

Quoted By: >>15746738

>>15746215
She'd be making less money either way so asking any Holo to saviorfag the Homos is essentially asking them to give up a big chunk of their income. Matsuri used to be Rushia tier, where is she now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:28:10 No.15746356 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746275
damn, how much did you spend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:30:41 No.15746461 Report

Quoted By:

>>15745306
Aw yeah, switching teams to join the more profitable market, sasuga Izuru

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:31:55 No.15746504 Report

Quoted By: >>15746835

Rushia doesn't pander to gachikoi for money, she panders to gachikoi because she has an extreme attachment to her fans and is genuinely in a serious parasocial relationship with them. It's not about the money for the girls who pander to unicorns and it's not about the money for the ones that don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:33:45 No.15746564 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746275
Unless you're that pekorafag or nenefag or korone/aquafag then there's no way you did spend that much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:33:47 No.15746566 Report

Quoted By: >>15746843

>>15745931
Thanks, was curious about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:34:45 No.15746600 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746293
>I don't want to cuck dudes who are sensible enough to hate that shit. We have enough fucking cucks as is.
I'll drink to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:37:01 No.15746688 Report

Quoted By: >>15746962

>>15746115
Ofc ti works but you've to know to play it correctly or else even if you do you won't get high numbers, besides not all Holos are comfortable with it/have the experience or even care to do it.

Ie Polka and Botan are and example, they've been doing it b4 Holo and they have this mentality of "Vtubers should be able to live off of sponsors" you know, like normal Youtubers do, meanwhile Nene had this dream of being an Idol so she definitely was ready to do it, Lamy was a bit shy at the start but found a spot where being whiny, needy and cute would give her tons of Sc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:38:09 No.15746728 Report

Quoted By:

Its extremely simple. The homos don't collab with the girls because the girls don't want to. They have to maintain their idol image because the gachis give them tons and tons of money, and collabing with men would be a betrail in their eyes. Is this right? Are Gachikoi mentally ill? I don't know, and it honestly doesn't matter. What matters is that Idol culture, toxic as it may or may not be, is what brings tons of cash to Hololive's table, and they have to keep it going. Its business. The homos just have to find a way to market themselves better. Personally, i think more collabs with the niji homos could be really good for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:38:25 No.15746738 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746307
Tbf, if ANY of the rumors I've heard on this board *some more believable than others, but all potentially rrats * then Matsuri has more than just a lack of gachikoi to blame for low earnings

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:40:34 No.15746835 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746504
True, money is more of a supporting argument for us since that behavior can often get attacked regularly by cretins. It's defending the relationship with one of the few things normalfags can actually understand, since they never let up on their retarded moral crusade against the dreaded parasocial relationship

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:40:40 No.15746843 Report

Quoted By: >>15747050

>>15745931
>>15746566
Well generally an idolfag is also simply just a fan of idols. There are of course plenty of unicorn idolfags but not all idolfags are unicorns. Idolfags also aren't inherently opposed to idols having any sort of interaction with the opposite sex(although it has to stay platonic of course) whereas a unicorn wouldn't wanna see their oshi in the same room as a man/woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:42:48 No.15746923 Report

Quoted By: >>15747047 >>15747060

>retards in this thread believing superchats equate to success.

Rushias donations are 80% of xqc's and yet he made more money this year then the entire 3rd gen combined.

Gachikoi baiters dont do it because it makes them money, they do it because they are just as mentally deformed as their simps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:43:44 No.15746962 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746688
I never said all Holos should do it. But keeping it the sort of default company culture like it iz now gives Holos a place to find that fanbase easily if they want to, without stopping other holos from doing male collabs if they really want to. Gachikoi culture is inherently more fragile than general entertainer culture so letting it be the "default" like it is is probably more helpful than the other way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:45:09 No.15747020 Report

Quoted By:

>>15729993
How do you think Miko feels knowing her goddess Sora and her girlfriend Suisei talk to and collab with males?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:45:59 No.15747047 Report

Quoted By:

>>15746923
That's nice. Still not letting your Homos collab with my oshi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:46:01 No.15747050 Report

Quoted By: >>15755023

>>15746843
A unicorn specifically is an idolfag who also wants his oshi to be a virgin. What you're describing as an idolfag is just a fan of idols. Not wanting their oshi to be in a relationship is the most common type of autism found among idol fans, those are idolfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:46:13 No.15747060 Report

Quoted By: >>15747304

>>15746923
What the fuck is that supposed to prove? If anything, its amazing that Rushia gets 80% of xqc's superchat revenue considering how she has a much smaller viewerbase. Obviously xqc is going to earn more money because he's a single individual who has multiple other methods of winning money (merch sales, sponsorships and etc), while the hololive girls only get a % of their superchats and merch sales since they're in a company. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:46:59 No.15747089 Report

Quoted By: >>15747335

>>15741466
Didn't help that they debuted around the time gen 3 aka the cabaret gen debuted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:49:29 No.15747185 Report

Quoted By: >>15747440

Unless you're specifically interested with male anime characters(which is not the case for the majority of hololive fans), there's no point watching holostars when there are much more entertaining male jp streamers that already dominates the market. No amount of holo collab will save them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:49:32 No.15747186 Report

Quoted By: >>15747241 >>15747375

>>15743781
That's not the reason of their slow growth newfagchama. NijiEn successful because the girls promoting the shit out of them before debut. Meanwhile Cover literally sabotaging Holostars creation
>doesn't give stars their own manager until Aruran debut
>doesn't give staff support especially tech support that result in Suzaku graduation
>doesn't give spotlight at all to Holostars not until Holocomi
>And lots more to the point Yagoo himself wished he handled Holostars creation better
Management fuckery like this usually kill any vtuber project. Even the mighty Kizuna Ai can't recover from management retardation. It's kind of miracles that Holostars managed to stay alive and kind of recovered alwuth the successful 3D live

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:49:38 No.15747188 Report

Quoted By:

>>15742601
That's pretty nomal desu, it's pretty much a global rule among chuubas and their fandoms unles they say otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:50:51 No.15747241 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747186
>NijiEn successful because the girls promoting the shit out of them before debut.
Nobody watched NijiEN before Luxiem anyway so their "promotion" was pointless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:52:59 No.15747304 Report

Quoted By: >>15747355

>>15747060
The point is that money was never the reason that female chuubas did or did not cater to unicorns. The ones who do it want to do it and the ones that don't do it don't want to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:53:28 No.15747321 Report

Quoted By: >>15747351

Man I like holostars but I sure dislike Izuru, gets mad when people use emotes in his chat and is completely against idol shit? Ungrateful man whore. I’ve never been mad at other members like the anti posting I’ve seen here but damn do I dislike him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:53:40 No.15747329 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743214
Man, I remember that, Lack must have been really happy to see his only son finally collab with one of his siblings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:53:58 No.15747335 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747089
Gen 3 was the tipping point and that is why I will forever love Sankisei. Without them who knows if we would have even half of the gachikoi relationships we have today

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:54:37 No.15747351 Report

Quoted By: >>15747405 >>15747408

>>15747321
Dang, he's against emote usage? I'd understand if it was spam but.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:54:44 No.15747355 Report

Quoted By: >>15747416 >>15747480

>>15747304
No other Holo is making anywhere near as much money as Lamy or Rushia though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:55:04 No.15747370 Report

Quoted By:

Ok then, assuming holostars don’t pander to female unicorns then what would I have to do to become a male idol that landers to female unicorns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:55:16 No.15747375 Report

Quoted By: >>15750057

>>15747186
When even Yagoo himself openly admitted that he fucked the Holostars that's when you know it's bad. They are trying to make up for lost time and it's sort of working, but the damage is done and they can't fully undo it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:56:02 No.15747405 Report

Quoted By: >>15747491 >>15747710 >>15747726

>>15747351
I looked at Astels Jump King stream the other day and he was bitching out his viewers for talking to each other in his slow ass chatbox. It's not really hard to understand why the Stars are unpopular, they're all extremely fucking autistic and don't have the benefit of cuteness to fall back on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:56:10 No.15747408 Report

Quoted By: >>15748034

>>15747351
Oh sorry, I’m actually not sure, I think it was spam but what got me mad is that it only happened while he was singing which is like what every other fan does on every other chat while their oshi sings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:56:32 No.15747416 Report

Quoted By: >>15747502

>>15747355
Rushia is in love with her audience. She would do the GFE pandering even if she was broke as fuck and made no mention from it. That's the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:57:08 No.15747437 Report

Quoted By:

>>15743781
Tbf, Luxiem's succes has a lot more behind it than just pandering to gachis.
>>15743619
Considering Hololive's ability to, not only survive bad situations, but come out stronger than before from them too, that ain't happenning anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:57:11 No.15747440 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747185
Here's the thing: most hololive fans are male EOPs. When watching a vtuber, if you cant understand what they're saying, the enjoyment you're going to get is from funny noises and them being cute. Males aren't cute to most males, so Holostars aren't going to be popular. There's just no reason to watch them because any value they could bring to the table is going to be lost because they can't understand Japanese. Its why hololive English is so fucking popular, like 80% of hololive global only talks about hololive English, because they're all EOPs. Conversely, Nijisanji JP males are mega popular because most of Nijisanji's fanbase is Japanese, they're even more popular than hololive there, and people watch their males for their content, not just because they're cute, just like they'd do for regular streamers.

TLDR : Its an EOP problem. Holostars can't compete in Japan because its dominated by Nijimales, and they can't dominate overseas like the girls because they aren't cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:58:06 No.15747469 Report

Quoted By: >>15747586

>>15729993
Hololive is an idol agency and a natural disposition of idol fans is possessiveness. The simps don't want their oshis talking with what they view as competition. Simple as that. It's nothing against the Holostars but simply men interacting and being friendly with Hololive in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:58:23 No.15747480 Report

Quoted By: >>15747547 >>15747674

>>15747355
You are unironically retarted if you think superchats are where the bulk of a vtubers earnings come from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:58:27 No.15747484 Report

Quoted By: >>15747788

Ok so if Holostars doesn’t pander to female unicorns what would someone have to act like to pander to them and be an idol, not pureness but at least the not collabing with females rules and dance/sing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:58:35 No.15747491 Report

Quoted By: >>15747755

>>15747405
You're not supposed to talk to eachother in chat, no matter the stream. Its basic Japanese streamer rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 04:58:50 No.15747502 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747416
Chloe has made as much money as the entirety of Myth in December. Yes that includes memberships and sponsorships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:00:01 No.15747547 Report

Quoted By: >>15748188

>>15747480
You are unironically retarded if you think any Holo is making enough off sponsorships to make up the deficit between them and Rushia. You think Botan is making a million dollars a year off shill streams? Fuck no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:00:49 No.15747586 Report

Quoted By: >>15747952

>>15747469
But anon, your argument doesn't matter because I think it's cringe and therefore you're wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:02:19 No.15747650 Report

Quoted By:

Boy, it feels good to not be retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:02:48 No.15747674 Report

Quoted By: >>15747832 >>15748397

>>15747480
Nah you're the fucking retard. Rushia has earned roughly 1.6 million dollars in superchats. If youtube takes 30% and cover takes 40% of the remaining cash, thats about 672 thousand dollars in her pocket. Do you SERIOUSLY think she's making more than that from her salary or from her sponsorship/merch cut? She's fucking not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:03:50 No.15747710 Report

Quoted By: >>15747774

>>15747405
(You) are a stupid EOP if you don't understand that not talking amongst yourselves in chat is a basic rule for most chuubas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:04:17 No.15747726 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747405
Every single HoloPro member have this as a rule. This isn't fucking Twitch where you can use a slow chat like a Discord text channel, you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:05:00 No.15747755 Report

Quoted By: >>15747801 >>15747804 >>15747885

>>15747491
Still seems like such a stupid rule, like what is a chat good for if it's not being used?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:05:33 No.15747774 Report

Quoted By: >>15747841 >>15747854 >>15747901

>>15747710
What else are they going to talk about? Him falling down on his ass over and over? It's a basic tenet of small streams that you build up a community of people who know each other. If they can't do that then you can't build an audience. Big Holos can get away with that because their chat is endless emote spam, Astel can't because his stream is boring as fuck and chat moves slowly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:05:59 No.15747788 Report

Quoted By: >>15747876

>>15747484
If (You) became a male chuuba you could collab freely with female chuubas while still pandering to gachikoi, that's fine. You have to be willing to be extremely gay with your genmates and do a lot of ASMR though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:06:14 No.15747796 Report

Quoted By: >>15755170

>>15740048
Yes. She considers herself non-binary or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:06:27 No.15747801 Report

Quoted By: >>15747862 >>15748026

>>15747755
The chat is for talking to the streamer. Allowing people to talk among themselves leads to an unruly chat that is difficult to moderate. Same reason why you're not supposed to mention another vtuber in chat unless the streamer mentioned them first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:06:32 No.15747804 Report

Quoted By: >>15747862 >>15747864

>>15747755
to talk to the streamer you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:07:17 No.15747832 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747674
Holos can renegotiate their superchat cuts and Rushia almost certainly has. She'd be getting a bigger cut than most Holos. The idea that anyone thinks ANY Holo is earning over 500k a year on shill streams is one of the most retarded things I've ever read here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:07:28 No.15747841 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747774
>t. twitch cancer american EOP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:08:00 No.15747854 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747774
Ask the nips, they made this rule and that's the way that Japanese streaming culture works. I wouldn't take the side of the rule breaking EOPs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:08:21 No.15747862 Report

Quoted By: >>15747922 >>15747983 >>15748008 >>15748229

>>15747801
>>15747804
>Talk to Astel
>AHHH CHING CHONG PING PONG NO TALK IN CHATTU WAITU PIGGU
Nah, hard pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:08:23 No.15747864 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747804
You think people are too stupid to do both?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:08:38 No.15747876 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747788
I actually like doing the asmr but prefer not being gay. Would the asmr be “to I’m your boyfriend type”

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:08:51 No.15747885 Report

Quoted By: >>15748183

>>15747755
Any stream chat that's allowed to talk among themselves devolves into angry arguments about politics in about 15 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:09:07 No.15747901 Report

Quoted By: >>15747985

>>15747774
>build up a community of people
I fucking hate EOPs so much, this is why I never fucking liked streamers before Hololive. Gachikoi are less cringe than you and your fucking "communities". Go ERP in Discord

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:09:35 No.15747922 Report

Quoted By: >>15747985

>>15747862
Of course it's an EOP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:10:09 No.15747952 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747586
It is cringe but I'm still right. Pandering to lonely guys will always be profitable. Kronii and Chloe are two more recent examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:11:00 No.15747983 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747862
Good, get filtered Waitu Piggu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:11:03 No.15747985 Report

Quoted By: >>15755130

>>15747901
>>15747922
Really a mystery why nobody wants to watch the Homos or associate with you fags, a real head scratcher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:11:39 No.15748008 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747862
Stick to simping for 'Dad', EOP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:12:05 No.15748024 Report

Quoted By:

Fuck EOPs, do your reps fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:12:07 No.15748026 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747801
The not mentioning other VTubers rule actually makes sense since people literally get carried away, but come on, how unruly do they really think a chat can get just from people going, "hey dude, how long do you think he's gonna be stuck on this part for?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:12:10 No.15748028 Report

Quoted By: >>15748089

>EOPs bad
>but i want EOPs to watch my homos
beggars...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:12:13 No.15748029 Report

Quoted By:

>>15744187
I mean, Pengy always had a good amount of female viewers for a reason I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:12:19 No.15748034 Report

Quoted By: >>15748191 >>15749125

>>15747408
>which is like what every other fan does on every other chat while their oshi sings

Why should Izuru tolerate what he doesn't like because everyone else allows it? He doesn't like emoji spam while he sings because he wants actual feedback. Astel is the same, and in fact said if you guys want to disregard his feelings and use emoji so badly, make him more popular that his chat becomes too fast to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:12:32 No.15748042 Report

Quoted By:

>15747985
Nah, I'm glad I don't have to deal with your ilk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:13:33 No.15748089 Report

Quoted By: >>15748208

>>15748028
At least the newfags are being exposed to why the Homobeggars were always considered cancer in /jp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:15:35 No.15748183 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747885
Isn't there a banned words list they can use with bots, and then also have it in the rules? At least then it'll be easy to snip the bud of a growing problem

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:15:39 No.15748187 Report

Quoted By:

Needs rape correction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:15:40 No.15748188 Report

Quoted By: >>15748228

>>15747547
Why bring botan or shill streams up? My point is that the main breadwinner for vtubers (all youtubers to be honest) is popularity, the number of views you get both live and in VODS is where you make the bulk of your money via ads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:15:42 No.15748191 Report

Quoted By: >>15748269 >>15748384

>>15748034
>Why should Izuru tolerate what he doesn't like because everyone else allows it?
Because if he doesn't it makes him look egocentric and autistic and nobody will watch him? Is his plan to be a 2 view for eternity because this is a good way to achieve it. You think the fag will ever get 10k watching him if the normies can't emote spam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:16:19 No.15748208 Report

Quoted By:

>>15748089
Anon, everyone who watches chuubas in /jp/ dislikes EOPs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:16:48 No.15748228 Report

Quoted By: >>15748644

>>15748188
Ad revenue is their smallest income stream retardchama. 1 member is worth what they make from ad revenue from a single VOD with 200k views.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:16:48 No.15748229 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747862
Astel is one of the homos who actually reads and replies to English comments. Try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:17:37 No.15748269 Report

Quoted By: >>15748338

>>15748191
Do numberfags really not understand the concept of cultivating an audience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:19:00 No.15748338 Report

Quoted By: >>15748393 >>15748647

>>15748269
Cultivating an audience by being autistic and standoffish with the people who came to watch you and enforcing a bunch of dumb arbitrary rules that no other vtuber does? Good strategy! Why aren't the Homos getting 10k viewers a stream I can't understand it's the perfect way to grow!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:20:21 No.15748384 Report

Quoted By:

>>15748191
Last I checked people were still watching him. Also Izuru likes talking to his chat so I'm sure he doesn't give a shit anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:20:25 No.15748393 Report

Quoted By:

>>15748338
I guess thr average numberfag really can't understand anything other than numbers. Many such cases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:20:33 No.15748397 Report

Quoted By: >>15748499

>>15747674
You really underestimate how much those shitty acrylic made profits

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:22:26 No.15748488 Report

Quoted By:

Legs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:22:41 No.15748499 Report

Quoted By: >>15749140

>>15748397
All Holos sell that shit merch and Rushia is one of the more popular Holos with a fanbase who will obsessively buy all her merch. Again, it comes back to gachikois being more valuable pound for pound than casual viewers who would tolerate Homostar collabs. You're undermining your own argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:26:12 No.15748644 Report

Quoted By:

>>15748228
And all the streamers who have gone on the record to state the opposite are all working together in a conspiracy to discredit you, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:26:19 No.15748647 Report

Quoted By: >>15748719 >>15748895

>>15748338
The ones that do that are EOPs. Other than the dumb gachikoi that wanted to be treated like special princess by him his Japanese audience always obeyed the rules. Also pandering to EOP is a horrible idea. Aruran and Temma stopped doing that when they saw how much trouble it was to wake up early in the morning just for that audience to have an almost insignificant growth in their normal, non pandering streams. Aruran found more long term success with his Izakaya streams than the cultural exchange ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:28:24 No.15748719 Report

Quoted By: >>15748825

>>15748647
Didn't Temma want to start doing his English streams again though? Aruran definitely stopped permanently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:31:23 No.15748825 Report

Quoted By: >>15748941

>>15748719
I believe he said it on the one he did in December, but at this point he's doing it to actually learn the language and not to increase his numbers since he's still the bottom one in both subs and ccv. Even Miyabi has a healthier ccv and he did 0 EOP pandering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:32:59 No.15748895 Report

Quoted By: >>15749075

>>15748647
Temma stopped them due to entering Apex tourneys and having to prepare along the other boys for their 3D debuts and the Live in December plus other irl stuff iirc, he has even said he want to return to them when he has more free time.
And Aruran does seem to have stopped permanently, though I suspect it also has to do with how much certain individuals were popping up during his last streams, more specifically people who shoved the Holo girls and especially Coco on the memes they submitted for those streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:33:34 No.15748916 Report

Quoted By:

It's not that deep, the reason why no one watches them is because they're not talented/entertaining enough to compete against other male twitch/youtube streamers and nijimales vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:34:30 No.15748941 Report

Quoted By: >>15749075

>>15748825
I don't think Temma ever did it for numbers, I thought he wanted to learn English to communicate with the EOPs that were already there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:38:26 No.15749075 Report

Quoted By: >>15749296

>>15748895
>>15748941
Temma was a bad example, but it still shows how pandering to EOPs doesn't actually increase your numbers. The English learning streams were one of his best performing streams, but he saw almost 0 growth from it. When the EOP saw that he wouldn't start using English constantly on normal streams they just dropped him, and they dropped him harder after he put the learning streams on hold because of how busy he was in the last 3 months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:40:02 No.15749125 Report

Quoted By:

>>15748034
Wanting "feedback" aka literally backseating on a karaoke is beyond retarded. Cheer emote and pachi pachi spam is a million times better. No wonder nobody watches holostars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:40:41 No.15749140 Report

Quoted By: >>15751454

>>15748499
The point never was about the financial "weight" of gachikoi, my argument was simply that superchats are not the largest income stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:43:49 No.15749238 Report

Quoted By: >>15749311 >>15749369

>15749125
You're trying a little too hard with the bait anonchama.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:44:44 No.15749261 Report

Quoted By: >>15749333

>Finally a post that talks consistently about the guy that introduced me to chuubas
>It is all shitting on him for being autistic
I Mean, you earn some you lose some i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:45:37 No.15749296 Report

Quoted By: >>15749908

>>15749075
That makes no sense compared to Astel. Astel constantly caters to EOPs and he gets a massive boost from it compared to the other Holostars. Astel doesn't even speak great English. Once Temma has solid enough English that he feels confident in using it regularly even outside EN pandering streams he would probably get permanent growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:46:01 No.15749311 Report

Quoted By: >>15749856

>>15749238
Not bait. I've never seen a more retarded argument in my life. Who the fuck wants to read some nobody with no credentials try to critique a singing stream, in the middle of a singing stream? That's the time to cheer the perform, not to give advice. Do you also shout pointers to the guitarist in the middle of his solo at a concert? How fucking dumb are you.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:46:38 No.15749333 Report

Quoted By:

>>15749261
I love my oshi's autism. Ignore the retards in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:47:49 No.15749369 Report

Quoted By: >>15749856

>>15749238
I agree with him, what the fuck advice could chat give to someone who is singing? since when should chat be musical experts?
Can you post 1 example of what you would type in a karaoke stream that is considered feedback?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:59:46 No.15749854 Report

Quoted By:

>>15739604
>Female vtuber collab with a male vtuber.
Her autistic male fans will turn against her and becomes her Anti.
Meanwhile fans of the male she collabed with will welcome her at first but then call her a whore after their favorite husbando's popularity rise.
There are cases where fans of male K-pop idol refuses to believe their bias was a sex pest and harass the victims instead. Women are easily blinded by love. I don't recommend Hololive members to collab with any male vtuber with a significant female fanbase (<30%) for this reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 05:59:48 No.15749856 Report

Quoted By: >>15750269

>>15749311
>>15749369
samefagchama...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:00:53 No.15749908 Report

Quoted By: >>15749951 >>15750155

>>15749296
It worked for Astel, but he also streams for ungodly hours and well into the Japanese morning, basically having a decent schedule for EOPs. Aruran and Temma don't, and other then the 24h endurance stream Aruran had recently neither of them seem interested in streaming around those hours. Even if Temma starts using English constantly he would still not see a big growth if he streamed around the Japanese afternoon/early evening, when most EOPs are sleeping. I could be wrong and he might grab a big EOP fanbase that likes to stay awake or wake up around his main streaming hours, but I still think that it's unlikely. Also don't forget that Astel saw a pretty decent growth in his JP fanbase with the networking he did after all those Apex tournaments he participated last year, so it wasn't all EOP pandering.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:01:54 No.15749951 Report

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>>15749908

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:04:25 No.15750057 Report

Quoted By: >>15750121 >>15750169 >>15750201

>>15747375
>but the damage is done and they can't fully undo it
Last half of 2021 definitely the beginning of Cover finally treating Holostars better. The timing is also coincidentally match with Coco graduation. I guess it's true that there's management restructuring after she left, and Holostars win a big one out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:05:48 No.15750121 Report

Quoted By: >>15750188

>>15750057
kek, this faggot again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:06:40 No.15750155 Report

Quoted By:

>>15749908
We will have to wait and see. Temma did purposefully do his English streams at times when he knew EOPs would be awake so I don't think he would overlook that detail if he kept it in mind before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:06:59 No.15750169 Report

Quoted By: >>15750390

>>15750057
choke a dick gaynigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:07:19 No.15750188 Report

Quoted By:

>>15750121
What's wrong with it anon? Please enlighten me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:07:40 No.15750201 Report

Quoted By: >>15750390

>>15750057
>it's the "holostars benefitted from coco's graduation" fag again
I was starting to miss you anon-kun...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:09:01 No.15750269 Report

Quoted By:

>>15749856
Why can't you answer, and how is that a schizo question? Not samefagging I am genuinely asking. How should I type in chat during a karaoke stream if cheer emoji is banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:10:24 No.15750328 Report

Quoted By: >>15750464 >>15751237 >>15751966

>>15741466
Ironically I believe that the Holostars are actually partially responsible for the way Hololive is now.
When the Stars debuted the Hologirls were still doing collabs with Niji males with 0 issues and that made some people confused and question why Cover completely banned the Holostars from interacting with the girls.
When they finally removed the ban months later the girls were already losing interest and then later when they merged Hololive and Holostars into "Hololive Production" was what finally made most of the girls stop male Vtuber collabs. That infamous Miko clip where she talks about not wanting to collab with men anymore was literally a few days after the Hololive Production thing was announced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:11:42 No.15750390 Report

Quoted By: >>15750485

>>15750169
>>15750201
Please enlighten this pheasant with your insightful knowledge. Please correct me when it's a fact that Shinove got promoted and Holostars get new managers right after Coco graduation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:12:11 No.15750423 Report

Quoted By:

>>15732861
I think I did see that. When Luxiem collab with the other groups it seems like all members drop about 200 viewers than they otherwise would have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:13:09 No.15750464 Report

Quoted By: >>15751859

>>15750328
Bruh do you even sankisei?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:13:44 No.15750485 Report

Quoted By: >>15750570

>>15750390
Birdanon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:15:02 No.15750549 Report

Quoted By: >>15751145

holostars always get better treatment from YAGOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:15:33 No.15750570 Report

Quoted By:

>>15750485
Yes anon I called myself bird because bird has small brain. That's why I ask enlightenment for the supposedly insightful anon over here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:28:53 No.15751052 Report

Quoted By:

>>15732861
Is the solution to that just be a male chuuba that have "boys" for an audience so they would be simping together instead of feeling alienated or envious at him in a collab?
And for holos that simp on homos as a secondary trait like Ollie and Bae, how does that look like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:31:04 No.15751145 Report

Quoted By: >>15751248

>>15750549
Yeah like not giving them proper manager and tech support that ends up with talent graduation right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:33:26 No.15751237 Report

Quoted By: >>15751859

>>15750328
Anon, the current way of Hololive, as you put it, is because of sankisei, they were the first ones to go really serious with that kind of culture, so to speak, and way of going about things, which brought them and Hololive significant success and made several girls from previous gens follow that model too.
All that you mentioned would have still happenned even f Holostars didn't exist but sankisei did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:33:42 No.15751248 Report

Quoted By:

>>15751145
>Yeah like not giving them proper manager and tech support
Just like any other holos then.
>graduating
Shame, but good for him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:39:00 No.15751454 Report

Quoted By: >>15751786 >>15751807

>>15749140
People only ever make this argument to then pretend that the chuuba with the most SC is also not the highest earner because there is no easy way to prove the obvious fact that the one with the most SC also has the most sales of anything else, too. A gachikoi-heavy audience is pound for pound more valuable, period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:46:42 No.15751786 Report

Quoted By:

>>15751454
They do? Damn, not me though so not sure why you would bring it up, I don't even have anything against Gachikoi/GFE vtubers. I literally came here for that one point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:47:19 No.15751807 Report

Quoted By: >>15752067

>>15751454
>there is no easy way to prove
There is, just look at Nijisanji, Mito and Deron earn a tons with all the shit they do like record label deal, shill stream, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:48:45 No.15751859 Report

Quoted By:

>>15751237
>>15750464
Yes, and Sankisei were not that special for months after their debuts that happened in July and August.
Only Pekora and Marine started becoming strong at the end of 2019, and by that point the rest of Hololive had already changed as I mentioned.
Sankisei was the first true "no males" Gen but they were just doing what some of the other girls were already starting to do at that point, they didn't invent the concept of "stop collabing with males".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:51:14 No.15751966 Report

Quoted By: >>15752092 >>15753182

>>15750328
I think when girls collab with males, they tend to lean on the dudes so much that their own personality won't grow. They'll just end up as "that girl who's close to that dude." I thought this when I was watching Hana stream Apex with Bobon a few months ago
cmiiw

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:53:58 No.15752067 Report

Quoted By: >>15752186

>>15751807
>literally makes the pivot I explicitly call out in the post
Really nigger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:54:38 No.15752092 Report

Quoted By: >>15752185

>>15751966
>They'll just end up as "that girl who's close to that dude."
Doesn't really happen with Holostars especially Robert and Pizzadad. Robert especially has passive buff that make his collab partners louder and funnier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:57:09 No.15752185 Report

Quoted By: >>15752356

>>15752092
People literally refer to animare as "Roberu's Harem", even Tamaki joked about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 06:57:10 No.15752186 Report

Quoted By: >>15752334

>>15752067
You literally typed
>A gachikoi-heavy audience is pound for pound more valuable, period.
Mito doesn't have gachikoi, her superchat turned off and she still earns a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:00:29 No.15752334 Report

Quoted By: >>15752399 >>15752486

>>15752186
And gachikoi pandering makes more than her and Hololive makes more than Nijisanji. Stop coping. I specifically said that people will pivot to
>this means that gachikoi don't make the most money
And that pivot is exactly what you did. 8t's a retarded pivot. Gachikoi are more valuable than any other viewer. Giving retarded arguments to the contrary my time of day bores the fuck out of me because it's been done over and over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:01:08 No.15752356 Report

Quoted By: >>15752546

>>15752185
It's actually goes both way, Roberu is also known as Inaba Haneru's plaything and Animare omocha no tantou (don't know the english equivalent), he even admitted it himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:02:30 No.15752399 Report

Quoted By:

>>15752334
>Hololive makes more than Nijisanji.
NTA but isn't anykara still bigger than cover?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:05:11 No.15752486 Report

Quoted By: >>15752602

>>15752334
Retard, anycolour's net worth is three times greater then cover.

Why the fuck would you make an argument that a simple google search will disprove? Are you underage or disabled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:06:42 No.15752546 Report

Quoted By: >>15752692

>>15752356
You type this shit and still don't understand why men wouldn't want to watch women with that kind of joke? The dude always takes the dominant role in a ship in terms of mental real estate, it's how people's minds work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:08:35 No.15752602 Report

Quoted By: >>15753007

>>15752486
Get back to me with that chart of Vtuber corpo earnings specifically accredited to vtubers that showed Holo blow Niji the fuck out of the water last year. If you think Mito makes more money than Rushia I have a bridge to sell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:11:00 No.15752692 Report

Quoted By: >>15752918 >>15753069 >>15753071

>>15752546
>why men wouldn't want to watch women with that kind of joke?
Haneru has tons of gachikoi, and she's equal with middle tier holo
>The dude always takes the dominant role
Only if you get your knowledge from 4chan. Roberu has speech debuff when there's Haneru presence, even mentioning her name is enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:17:28 No.15752918 Report

Quoted By:

>>15752692
>Haneru has tons of gachikoi, and she's equal with middle tier holo
Literal cuckolds are not a wide group to pull gachikoi from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:20:11 No.15753007 Report

Quoted By: >>15753087

>>15752602
If you want to make an argument, its on you to provide the evidence. I'm not going to go looking for some random chart that may or may not exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:22:48 No.15753069 Report

Quoted By:

>>15752692
>Roberu has speech debuff when there's Haneru presence
Tamaki as well. I would say Mea too but I think it's because Tamaki is also always there.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:22:50 No.15753071 Report

Quoted By: >>15753158 >>15755649

>>15752692
>Haneru has tons of gachikoi, and she's equal with middle tier holo
Maybe in the past lol
Not anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:23:24 No.15753087 Report

Quoted By: >>15753265

>>15753007
I'm not having a retarded argument, I've had it enough over the last 2 years to know how it ends, with nijinigger cope and grasping at straws like always while Holo revenue continues to dwarf them more and more over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:25:32 No.15753158 Report

Quoted By:

>>15753071
Based anon, I should've fact checked the dude but I was retarded and gave him the benefit of the doubt.
If there was ever a gachikoi who openly joked about his crush getting rammed by another dude I'd hardly consider him a gachikoi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:26:22 No.15753182 Report

Quoted By:

>>15751966
This can happen between all girls collabs too, like Kanata almost becoming nothing more than Coco's +1 or Moona being Pekora's sidekick. Then there's Ame and Gura for the HoloEN fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 07:28:48 No.15753265 Report

Quoted By:

>>15753087
If you want to run away when pressed for evidence, then go for it. I cant stop you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:19:20 No.15754821 Report

Quoted By:

I wonder if the new homos are going to be the "3rd Gen" of holostars.
There's already a bit of a spotlight on them, holofans and nijifans alike are aware they exist.
If the next gen has some talented mofos that make a splash similar to HoloX, they might incline the entire branch on their backs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:25:48 No.15754999 Report

Quoted By:

>>15732861
I honestly think it's just the male part of their fanbase that's just going towards their favourite liver's POV for the collab. Despite what people think about the percentages for the Luxiem boys about their demographics, dudes are still a big percentage of their total viewerbase and I seriously doubt that will ever change

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:26:24 No.15755023 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747050
yeah, there's levels to this -

Level 1 : Alright with whatever his oshi does outside of work as long as her work itself isn't affected. If her idol work starts to lower in quality/quantity due to off-stream stuff, they will be pissed.
Level 2 : Same as level 1, but doesn't want their oshi to bring up any of the stuff she does off-stream to on-stream talks. They're able to keep the separation as long as their oshi keeps things separate.
Level 3 : Do not want their Oshi to be in a relationship, either off stream or on stream. Are alright with male collabs as long as there's no flirting or romantic behavior on stream.
Level 4 : The ultimate schizo, who doesn't want his oshi to ever interact with a male, be it on stream or on twitter or anywhere else (Love Live fags).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:28:37 No.15755085 Report

Quoted By:

>>15738445
Melissa isn't trans and I will not allow you to slander my life partner by assigning an identity to that isn't married to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:30:38 No.15755130 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747985
go watch your faggot livestreamers sucking each others cock on twitch, you are not welcome here cretin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:30:56 No.15755143 Report

Quoted By:

>>15741421
Well to be fair, Izuru just straight up hates any woman that is younger than he is. He only likes older women who aren't mentally deranged like teenagers are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:31:45 No.15755170 Report

Quoted By:

>>15747796
Non binary isn't trans it just means that Melissa will never fuck anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:52:56 No.15755649 Report

Quoted By: >>15755714

>>15753071
> less than polka
> less than a literally graduated chuuba
jesas she has fallen off...
90k is still a decent amount to take home though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 08:55:49 No.15755714 Report

Quoted By: >>15755815

>>15755649
it's not that she's fallen off it's just that everyone else started getting more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 09:00:39 No.15755815 Report

Quoted By:

>>15755714
well in any case she's not a good argument for or against gachikoi

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