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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 09:59:47 No.16192424 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16193125 >>16193177 >>16193203 >>16202523 >>16202790 >>16205222 >>16209708

Yo i started doing my jp reps for my oshi and i wish i started sooner, outside the moonrunes talking Is really easy, they legit talk like cavemen, like tarzan, once you learn the basics everything gets really easy, give it a try anon, your oshi would be proud

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:16:40 No.16192949 Report

Quoted By: >>16193006

I think is too son to call laplus your oshi

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:18:27 No.16193006 Report

Quoted By: >>16195389

>>16192949
>He doesn't feels a mighty need

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:22:02 No.16193125 Report

Quoted By: >>16193190 >>16193271

>>16192424
How long it took for you to get there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:23:53 No.16193177 Report

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>>16192424
Do your quality reps next. That gif's quality fucking sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:24:21 No.16193190 Report

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>>16193125
3 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:24:45 No.16193203 Report

Quoted By: >>16203370

>>16192424
The easy thing for me was the Kanji. Actually speaking Jap is the hard part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:26:13 No.16193244 Report

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I need to start doing this too, I feel like I'm missing out by being a gay EOP. I just haven't pushed myself into learning yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:26:53 No.16193271 Report

Quoted By: >>16202023

>>16193125
OP here, i say around 8 months

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:33:38 No.16195389 Report

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>>16193006
I feel a mighty need to mating press Lap-chan

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:01:30 No.16196116 Report

Quoted By: >>16196573

Can you recommend a good learning resources ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:15:52 No.16196573 Report

Quoted By: >>16205197 >>16207455

>>16196116
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:18:08 No.16196631 Report

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I don't want to be able to understand them, I want to keep hearing high pitched jibberish and fill in the blanks myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:20:55 No.16196703 Report

Quoted By: >>16196845

i've just started and it's fucking muzukashi.
but my short term memory is fucked from the devil's weed years ago. eventually kanji will stick long term, but learning new stuff is brutal for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:26:30 No.16196845 Report

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>>16196703
It's wild when you show up to talk about a stream and you know the most Japanese

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:30:06 No.16196922 Report

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Spoken Japanese is baby talk. Now, written Japanese...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:31:52 No.16196958 Report

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we're all gonna make it /djt/bros

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:33:02 No.16196979 Report

Quoted By: >>16200631

do your fuckin reps

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 14:27:13 No.16200631 Report

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>>16196979
I miss the Put It In Your Mouth series so fucking much man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:05:52 No.16202023 Report

Quoted By: >>16202382

>>16193271
Did you use the documents from /jp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:16:05 No.16202382 Report

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>>16202023
Just read https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html , and never step in /jp/, because everything good and worthwhile from there is on that website, while some retards in /djt/ will give you worse advice and you are too unknowledgeable in Japanese to figure what is bad and what is good advice. Don't step there and just use the website, it has everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:20:02 No.16202523 Report

Quoted By: >>16202673

>>16192424
dunning-kruger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:24:06 No.16202673 Report

Quoted By: >>16205247

>>16202523
I’m not OP and I believe its possible. I have a friend who learned how to understand vtubers in roughly half a year with a mixture of grammar books, flashcards, turbo autism, and watching vtubers for hours nonstop.
Whether or not he could chat with locals if you dropped him in the middle of Tokyo, I don’t know. But the dude can understand what vtubers are saying, at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:27:51 No.16202790 Report

Quoted By: >>16203007

>>16192424
>they legit talk like cavemen, like tarzan
yeah this is what put me off most of holos after my Japanese got good. It's like they're talking to a retard and it makes me feel bad. Flare says they talk like this for kaigai viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:34:35 No.16203007 Report

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>>16202790
Real Japanese is harder than the Japanese from anime

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:35:33 No.16203041 Report

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Translated clips will never be able to catch all of the good stuff. You can cope with "all the worthwhile stuff will be translated", but there are several examples of that not being true.
Even if we imagine that was true, the missing gaps make your enjoyment of them so shallow compared to what you get when you know the language. Posting rrats on /vt/ is how EOPs compensate for missing out on the banter, fanart, and jp memes that make this hobby unique.

>they legit talk like cavemen
YMMV

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:45:02 No.16203370 Report

Quoted By: >>16205028

>>16193203
This. Kanji is just rote memorisation. Parsing spoken Japanese in real time is a much steeper learning curve, especially since the grammar is so different to western languages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 16:34:49 No.16205028 Report

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>>16203370
You're unicornally overthinking it. The other anon was right, it's ooga booga speak. Just dumb yourself down and be a fecetious lying piece of shit and Japanese is actually fun. It's all about crafting your words simply but also poetically to hide the true meaning so as to remain polite to others.

Language is an art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 16:38:38 No.16205156 Report

Quoted By: >>16207648 >>16207867 >>16208384 >>16209507

Just learn a language you might actually use one day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 16:39:37 No.16205197 Report

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>>16196573
TY anon, ill check it out later

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 16:40:06 No.16205222 Report

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>>16192424
>your oshi would be proud
my oshi speaks English and is in my DMs
take the indie pill anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 16:40:38 No.16205247 Report

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>>16202673
It's definitely possible, but I've come to the conclusion that it will not be easy like OP is claiming for a long time. Even if your grammar knowledge is good, and you can always keep up with the pace (which you can't), there will always be conversation subjects where you understand almost nothing. You can only really reduce how often that happens.
It is fairly easy to learn enough to enjoy streams though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 17:42:51 No.16207455 Report

Quoted By: >>16209189

>>16196573
>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Main practice
>Anime and TV

MY S I D E S

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 17:48:05 No.16207648 Report

Quoted By: >>16207733 >>16208407 >>16209708

>>16205156
For the last fucking time, I will not learn spic, and learning Chinese is a death sentence. I also never want to willingly associate with sandniggers. What other fucking language do think is actually useful? Every other language is just as useless as Japanese, fucking name one that isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 17:50:11 No.16207733 Report

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>>16207648
But you want to be asociated with nazi allies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 17:53:50 No.16207867 Report

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>>16205156
You may not speak japanese, but if you're in this thread you're definitely going to read and listen to it.
Besides, just knowing japanese will open up opportunities to actually use it. Trust me.

Since you're in this board learning a language is the least of your time wasters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:07:18 No.16208384 Report

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>>16205156
Most of my visual media consumption is VTubers and anime. Most of the games I play are Japanese VNs and H-games. Most of the things I read are manga or shitty LNs with piss-poor translations. How would I not be using Japanese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:07:59 No.16208407 Report

Quoted By: >>16208663

>>16207648
Korean you actual clown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:15:29 No.16208663 Report

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>>16208407
In what universe is Korean any more useful than Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:30:52 No.16209189 Report

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>>16207455
unless you're surrounded by japanese native speakers, you need to find an alternate way to hear a large amount of japanese speech. hearing the grammar and vocabulary you're learning in actual, spoken japanese is the best way to understand it. of course, you need a pretty solid foundation in japanese before this starts being helpful.
obviously you arent just watching anime; you look up words you dont know or phrases you dont understand as you go to get a feel for how they're used, etc.
there are other ways to get that sort of exposure, but anime and tv are very convenient in that the voice actors generally speak very clearly, and you have easy access to subtitles so you can look up the things you dont understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:40:04 No.16209507 Report

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>>16205156
I use it every fucking day for my hobbies, and it's extremely useful to me. Grinding the language has been one of the best choices of my life once I decided to consume Japanese media and entertainment.
You can argue that it doesn't really open up any realistic job opportunities, but that doesn't mean it's not useful if it improves the experience you have with what you enjoy.
People learn very specific jargon that can rarely be applied to their occupation if their hobbies are cars, trains, and music. They learn very specific reflexes that can rarely be applied if their hobbies are video games or sportsball. But they learn all of those because it enriches their time spent with their hobby
Knowing Japanese will enrich your time watching Japanese vtubers and cartoons, reading manga/WN/LN/VNs, and browsing twitter/5ch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:45:49 No.16209708 Report

Quoted By: >>16209997

>>16192424
Basic stuff is pretty easy to learn.I only get lost sometimes during zatsudans or like when Marine speaks really fast I cant even catch half of the things she's saying. Still, I'm not planning to keep doing JP reps since trilingual, and my native language, english in russian are already making a mess in my head when I'm trying to think and form sentences
>>16207648
This is your typical dumb EOP justifying not learning any other language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:50:31 No.16209883 Report

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I lack motivation to learn japanese. Frankly, as someone who's not a language enthusiast, knowing 2 languages is already an accomplishment. Yes, it wouldn't hurt to learn another one, but as someone who has zero interest in visiting japan and who doesn't watch anime it's almost entirely useless to me. I admit that not needing to rely on translations would be nice, but the effort it takes isn't worth it for that purpose alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 18:54:21 No.16209997 Report

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>>16209708
since I'm trilingual*
english AND russian

See, I already fell apart there. kek

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