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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:04:23 No.16597725 View View Reply Original Report

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What did hololive do to make them grow so fast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:05:05 No.16597752 Report

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>>16597725
covid and saying nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:05:53 No.16597792 Report

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Not being whores

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:06:24 No.16597813 Report

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>>16597752
Coco and saying nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:08:22 No.16597896 Report

Quoted By: >>16598052

>>16597725
Chinese clippers and Covid lockdowns

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:08:36 No.16597909 Report

Quoted By: >>16598093 >>16598205 >>16602287 >>16602370

A lot of stuff happened, but the one this place doesn't like to acknowledge is the free promotion china did for them with clipping in mass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:12:24 No.16598052 Report

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>>16597896
> JP who know English
> SEAniggers

CN did nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:13:27 No.16598093 Report

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>>16597909
>Reddit

This and unironically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:13:35 No.16598103 Report

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>>16597725
Seethe Ricardo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:13:44 No.16598113 Report

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>>16597725
based zhangbros did the leg work in promoting them with clips in Japanese, Chinese and English. Holos in turn used to interact with them a lot, including doing streams on Bilibili and interacting with their official fan groups there but a certain reddit dragon had to ruin it... now Hololive's on the decline, long gone are the days where Pekora could pull 45k viewers for any random MC stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:16:26 No.16598205 Report

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>>16597909
It's like an actress getting her start in softcore porn or something, it's not the kind of thing you like to think about or bring up, even if it's true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:16:33 No.16598211 Report

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>>16597725
>What did hololive do to make them grow so fast?Hololive didn't do anything magical. Their competition are the ones that dropped the ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:17:08 No.16598236 Report

Quoted By: >>16598812 >>16600914

>>16598113
>Pekora hit 165k on her Birthday with CCVID debuff.
>Indie associated with holo set all time record on her 3D debut.
>Holo sponsorships everywhere.
Thank you for the success bugman

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:17:56 No.16598264 Report

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>>16597725
Hololive didn't do anything magical. Their competition are the ones that dropped the ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:18:25 No.16598292 Report

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>>16597725
>Litterally just Luck and Clippers
Cover didn't do shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:19:39 No.16598339 Report

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>>16597725
My takes
Hololive has cohesion, they have enough members for all kinds of collabs but not gross excess of 2view like Nijisanji.
Hololive pandered to more global audiences while still remaining somewhat niche.
Hololive had far more content with long daily streams instead of short videos which created a more interacting community.
Long streams lead to clipniggers delivering large amounts of funny short content, with so many clips with millions of views most people got to Hololive through clips.
Hololive started hiring real talents since they took off, while also hiring gems streamers like Coco, Pekora, Rushia and Korone.
Making it big with English market by nailing with Gura and Mori.
Covid lockdowns
Miko saying nigga. No joke, the clip has 2.4 million views and Miko was one of the least subscribed in Hololive before it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:21:00 No.16598389 Report

Quoted By: >>16599203 >>16599303 >>16602335

Ollie looks at these results and says "I wanna change that".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:25:25 No.16598543 Report

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>>16597725
Can't see shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:28:09 No.16598656 Report

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Matsuri wearing bandaids instead of a bra in highschool once, Covid and Miko saying nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:28:33 No.16598667 Report

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>>16597725
Why didn't Aqua become as popular as Korone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:31:57 No.16598779 Report

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>>16597813
>>16597752
Fucking bullshit I say nigger all the time and I'm not popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:32:56 No.16598809 Report

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>>16598667
Korone had a very popular spic promote her on his channel and even asked his fans to go raid her as well as a lot of EOP growth in general.
Aqua's growth took a nosedive in August when she stopped streaming to prepare for her first solo live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:32:58 No.16598812 Report

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>>16598236
Half of Pecker viewers are 35P, now PekoMiko is no more the number reduced, The same happened to Miko but she got viewers from Suisei so the number reduced a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:33:12 No.16598825 Report

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>>16598667
Aqua never stream in or even try to speak English. That's literally the only reason Korone got popular, memes of her goofy English phrases.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:33:17 No.16598829 Report

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>>16597725
I blame these 2 videos, you may know Hololive from before or even after. But these 2 videos are literally where most people entered the Rabbit hole and then the Youtube algorithm did the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:38:02 No.16599026 Report

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Azur Lane collab resulted in an algoboost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:41:57 No.16599203 Report

Quoted By: >>16599303

>>16598389
Mori sees it and thinks "I want those numbers to take a big nosedive".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:44:27 No.16599303 Report

Quoted By: >>16599470

>>16598389
>>16599203
idolfaggotry is almost totally irrelevant to Hololive's global success, thus why Ollie and Calli are immensely popular everywhere but here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:48:43 No.16599449 Report

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Funny clips for the subs and GFE for the money/gachikois.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:49:16 No.16599470 Report

Quoted By: >>16599746

>>16599303
That's because most of Hololive's audience outside of Japan are fucking normies who doesn't understand the idol culture and treats the fanbase like some sort of one big hugbox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:55:50 No.16599746 Report

Quoted By: >>16600014

>>16599470
even then I doubt that when you first saw a Korone or Miko clip, your immediate reaction was "I want this funny little creature spouting gibberish to be my girlfriend, I'm glad she doesn't interact with men."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:56:19 No.16599761 Report

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>>16597725
puppy chow for a full year

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 20:59:28 No.16599881 Report

Quoted By: >>16600114

All these explanations have to account for while Hololive succeeded when they were midgets and Niji was far more established and popular. Okay Chinks, why did they clip Holos instead of the far bigger Nijis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:00:38 No.16599924 Report

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>>16597725
scbots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:00:54 No.16599938 Report

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>>16598779
Are you an anime girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:01:14 No.16599952 Report

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>>16598205
That's one way of putting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:02:48 No.16600014 Report

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>>16599746
actually, that's just how I respond anytime something with tits comes into view

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:05:47 No.16600114 Report

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>>16599881
Hololive went all in on the China pandering and even mandated that their Japanese talent stream on Bilibili, thus attracting the Chinese clippers. Nijisanji just struck a business deal with Bilibili then proceeded to act like VirtuaReal is a separate company.
also Nijisanji got plenty of clips back in the day too, they just weren't nearly as lucky with the algo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:07:13 No.16600178 Report

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I like how these threads tend to stay civil for the most until about the 50 post mark where we all start screaming and calling each other antis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:19:21 No.16600761 Report

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>>16597725
Chinks will say "azurlane" and chink clips
But in reality it was Coco with her silly behavior breaking the Japanese formalities who memed holo into it's popularity.
You can see on 4chan status the timeline.
>Be on bilibili for almost a year
>Nothing happens
>Coco debut
>thread fucking splits

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:21:54 No.16600860 Report

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>>16597725
They have a fubuki a korone a pekora

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:23:07 No.16600914 Report

Quoted By: >>16601841 >>16602149

>>16598236
>Indie associated with holo set all time record on her 3D debut.
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:39:55 No.16601605 Report

Quoted By: >>16602130

>>16597725
Leech off of Nijisanji, get lucky with COVID, have chink clippers do all the work for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:45:10 No.16601841 Report

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>>16600914
Shigure Ui

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:46:00 No.16601879 Report

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>>16597725
They rejected Chinese money when almost every big company and actors kneel too it. Couldn’t have made a more Based move to their SEA and US market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:49:10 No.16602031 Report

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>>16598113
That's the only good thing reddit dragon ever did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:49:13 No.16602035 Report

Quoted By: >>16604374

Will nijiggers ever stop seething? This is getting embarrassing
The reason why your shit company is not going anywhere is because they're the chinese sweatshop of vtubers, they prioritize shitting out turds instead of quality
15 vtubers in 5 months in a single branch is fucking retarded no matter how you try and spin it and its the #1 reason why nijisanji will never be taken seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:51:27 No.16602130 Report

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>>16601605
kill yourself nijinigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:51:49 No.16602149 Report

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>>16600914
Tomoe?

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:53:41 No.16602220 Report

Quoted By: >>16603409

>AI
Badly mismanaged and fought over by corporate shit.

>Luna
Literally run right into the ground by corporate idiocy.

>Shiro
.LIVE would have done alright except that it was right around this time that the Siocaust occurred and permanently fucked them (though if we're being realistic their livers still get top 1% numbers, just not hololive/nijisanji top .1% numbers)

>Mito
She inclined also, just not as fast as the holos.

>the rest
Mismanagement and failure to keep up with changing times as EOPs flooded the scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:55:14 No.16602287 Report

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>>16597909
No one in the west has any contact with bilibili exposure, that shit was pretty isolated to CN exclusively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:56:18 No.16602335 Report

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>>16598389
Ollie, Haachama, Baelz etc. are all zoomers who feel like they have something to prove and don't see the existing success of the organization as being something to maintain. Within normal generational turnover it wouldn't be a bad thing if Haachama is getting half a million live viewers 5-10 years from now if that was somehow possible, it only becomes a problem when you realize ollie is retarded and has no idea what she's doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 21:57:09 No.16602370 Report

Quoted By: >>16604861

>>16597909
>Zhang still thinks HoloCN had a bigger viewership than literally anyone else in the vtubing market
Following in their masters steps and inventing history I see. Keep choking on that CCP micropenis zhang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:03:04 No.16602624 Report

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Some clips and short videos from the likes of Korone, Fubuki and Miko went viral in the west, and the girls fed this influx of foreign fans. Then HoloEN debuted with perfect timing to ride that wave and magnify it, and it just snowballed from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:18:47 No.16603409 Report

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>>16602220
With rivals like that, it was pretty easy for Hololive to incline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:42:53 No.16604374 Report

Quoted By: >>16604457

>>16602035
When was the last time holocunts got 200k+ ccv stream? Ah yeah, graduation.
I guess graduating is the only thing this shitty company can do right.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:45:13 No.16604457 Report

Quoted By: >>16604523

>>16604374
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:46:49 No.16604523 Report

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>>16604457
bruh, don't embarrass yourself that hard...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:51:47 No.16604743 Report

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>>16597725
>Azur Lane collab
>Chink meme clips
>Covid lockdowns
Thanks, Chinks.
Afterwards, it was Coco who skyrocketed the EoP population with her reddit stuff and now we're here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:53:42 No.16604837 Report

Quoted By: >>16607836

>>16597752
If that's true why Nijisanji not as popular as Hololive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jan 2022 22:54:14 No.16604861 Report

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>>16602370
>Thinking your first HoloJP clips were made by EoPs
KEK. Zhangs made the first Hololive meme clips and SEAfags just put Jojo music over it to make it theirs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:03:14 No.16607836 Report

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>>16604837
Where is your nigger clip ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:11:12 No.16608209 Report

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>>16598205
wtf hololive is literally kim kardashian

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:13:02 No.16608290 Report

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>>16598205
>It's like an actress getting her start in softcore porn or something, it's not the kind of thing you like to think about or bring up, even if it's true.
but everybody does it and they do it with pride just look at Hollywood

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 00:13:40 No.16608320 Report

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>>16597725
Nigga , Scatman and EEkum Bokum.

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