They got btfo from their vtubing scene and barely exist from leeching off hololiveEN viewers, the ones that don't leech is in the border of fading out of existence HololiveID's magic and novelty from speaking both English and Japanese are long gone, saturated They don't have niche, their supposedly main audience (indonesian) don't even watch them anymore, at this point I just wish they would just merge with HololiveEN, only that way could they found a better position instead of stuck in this weird position