>>16996879>goal of being a virtual idol groupwhich is literally memed to death already. Coco didnt give a shit about idol image and was successful for it, whats important what is successful and not what started or who started or what attracted people.
> Now you are here and want it to changeAlready changed and will continue to change, you will continue seething.
You can keep watching dedicated idols like suisei and rushia, just dont expect new vtubers to meet this standard.
>Which culture is more toxic? The on that avoids problemsJapanese idol culture is more toxic. Girls get slandered and harassed into retirement, All the most hated "whores" are still here , successful, with loads of fans and more viewers than your oshi - veibei, nyanners, etc. Even thots like amouranth or alinity. And people learned to exclude and rightfully bully obsessed cringelords.