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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 20:31:25 No.1699610 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1700901 >>1701974 >>1717459 >>1719277

So, half a year later what WAS the reason that everyone completely refused to collab with her for months? Was the discord voice/apex teaming yab REALLY that bad? Was it just that her entire chat was an EOP containment zone and the other holos hadn't realized EOPs are actually willing to pay? Was she secretly a bitch behind the scenes?

Pic related, the black sheep cover she put out at the height of the time when she was begging the other holos to collab with her on twitter (lol)

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 20:40:27 No.1699787 Report

Quoted By: >>1699837 >>1703684 >>1719215

Hololive is, at the end of the day, a business. You can get along with a coworker, but if working together with them is a direct risk to your own revenue and paycheck, then you simply don't take the risk.

A big misconception is that these girls are friends by default. They CAN be, but they have no real reason to get along outside of a work setting. Very few of these girls would put their own money stream at risk to help out another girl who YAB'd and brought trouble from the very, very easily offended audience they all share. Only someone with real grit like Fubuki would do something like that, and she is by far the exception.
I'm glad Towa dug herself out of the deadly "talked to a male" hole, but you can't blame other girls, especially her own genmates who were also just starting off, to put themselves at risk for her sake and her mistake.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 20:43:06 No.1699837 Report

Quoted By: >>1700791 >>1700848 >>1706593 >>1717222

>>1699787
>Only someone with real grit like Fubuki

It was Aki that broke the cycle actually.
For that matter, Aki was also one of the first to collab with Coco after the taiwan incident.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 21:35:57 No.1700791 Report

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>>1699837
When someone has nothing to lose...

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 21:39:19 No.1700848 Report

Quoted By: >>1717132 >>1719074

>>1699837
Aki has learnt from hardships after all, I guess she doesn't want anyone in that hole

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 21:41:53 No.1700901 Report

Quoted By: >>1719277

>>1699610
Why the fuck does your Towa look like Chowa?

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 22:25:52 No.1701900 Report

Quoted By: >>1701945

Towa said she had hid herself away, it wasn't until she met Sio that she began to heal, which is good because besides singing collabs are her strongest point.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 22:28:02 No.1701945 Report

Quoted By: >>1703840

>>1701900
Hid herself away by asking why won't anyone collab with her on twitter

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 22:29:28 No.1701974 Report

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>>1699610
Towa's autism gets in the way of a lot of things, after the yab she didn't want to bring the other girls down. Sio's fatass and Aki forcibly dragged her out of that mindset.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 23:36:22 No.1703684 Report

Quoted By: >>1704486 >>1706529 >>1719040 >>1724428

>>1699787
Sorry to burst your savior FBK narrative anon, but it was very obvious that Cover asked Fubuki, their corporate mascot, to give Coco support in order to signal to the idol fandom that Coco was being welcomed back into the fold. They likely also asked other girls through their managers not to comment at all in order to contain the controversy.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Mar 2021 23:42:25 No.1703840 Report

Quoted By: >>1718532

>>1701945
If you watch towa you would know that she herself causes every problem she complains about

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 00:05:38 No.1704486 Report

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>>1703684
>Sorry to burst your savior FBK narrative anon, but it was very obvious that Cover asked Fubuki, their corporate mascot, to give Coco support in order to signal to the idol fandom that Coco was being welcomed back into the fold.
I doubt that rrat, maybe if they had stream together or something
The manner in which she did it, just off-hand mentioning in a tweet that she ate lunch with Coco just seems like her throwing herself into the line fire
If they wanted signal the fandom they could've just made an official statement and the descion to fire Coco or not would've ultimately been managerial so I doubt Fubuki would have any say in that matter

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 00:54:10 No.1706529 Report

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>>1703684
Nahhhh.... you just made narrative

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 00:55:48 No.1706593 Report

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>>1699837
Aki always has kind heart

She may be the best support in Hololive except friend

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 05:05:38 No.1717132 Report

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>>1700848
>ywn slowly pass out as Aki chokes you between her big beefy arms.
Why even live bros

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 05:07:34 No.1717222 Report

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>>1699837
Wrong fng

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 05:14:44 No.1717459 Report

Quoted By: >>1718470

>>1699610
>Male voice on your stream at night
This is obviously not good but wasn't the real problem.
>Lying to your fans in a really shameless way and then trying to use your company as a shield
This was the real problem.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 05:43:55 No.1718470 Report

Quoted By: >>1719064 >>1719194 >>1719328

>>1717459
She lied about what?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 05:45:16 No.1718532 Report

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>>1703840
Towa kiara collab when? It'll unite /jp/ and /vt/

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 05:59:57 No.1719040 Report

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>>1703684
Sorry anon, but FBK stated before she'll quit herself if Cover ever ask her to say something she dont want to say. Her numbers are already tanking anw, she lose nothing if she were to walk out now

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:01:19 No.1719064 Report

Quoted By: >>1719398

>>1718470
About the voice being of a Cover staff. I hate purists but Towa does her share of fault there, but its not like she can say its her male friend on stream

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:01:37 No.1719074 Report

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>>1700848
Musclefags just need to admit they love male physique, especially cocks.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:07:15 No.1719194 Report

Quoted By: >>1719328 >>1719337 >>1724103

>>1718470
After she came back and chat had blown up about hearing a male voice, Towa said that the voice they heard was her manager despite the fact that she was streaming from her house at like 10 or 11 pm. Chat didn't buy it, of course, and Cover refused to go along with her obvious lie. It was after that that she was made to apologize for lying but then lied again in her apology about the male voice coming from a discord she open. I am not an idolfag, but I can understand why even the ones who aren't idolfags were upset at her behavior.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:08:25 No.1719215 Report

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>>1699787
>A big misconception is that these girls are friends by default. They CAN be, but they have no real reason to get along outside of a work setting.
Anyone who's ever had a job with coworkers should already know this.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:11:34 No.1719277 Report

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>>1699610
That was over a year ago, not half a year ago.
>>1700901
I thought it was Kotone at first desu

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:14:47 No.1719328 Report

Quoted By: >>1719398 >>1719478 >>1719501 >>1724103

>>1719194
I mean It's not like she had a choice just as >>1718470 said it's not like she can just straight up tell that she had a friend on her house you know how fucking retarded the Purists are.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:15:22 No.1719337 Report

Quoted By: >>1719478

>>1719194
Damn what an absolute shitstorm. Why didn't she get advice from Cover or someone else on what she should say...this is exactly the same reason why Kiara is a bitch because she will never ask or take advice on how to properly handle PR.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:19:10 No.1719398 Report

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>>1719328
Holy shit Im retarded, I meant >>1719064

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:24:32 No.1719478 Report

Quoted By: >>1719528

>>1719328
>>1719337
It was a no-win situation, and any action you take is going to lose you fans. Arguably, the best thing she could have done would be to give an immediate and straightforward apology that incorporates some character lore to play off the matter somehow (e.g. that's a mouthy homunculus I'm working on) until she gets some direction from management on how to proceed if things continue to spiral out of control.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:26:07 No.1719501 Report

Quoted By: >>1719783 >>1719867

>>1719328
She admitted it was on discord(and her mic was probably picking up her headphones when she set them down), but the next thing it became was that "why are you talking with people on discord while streaming... unless you're teaming for wins in apex"

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:27:59 No.1719528 Report

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>>1719478
Lying is as natural as breathing to a woman

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:48:12 No.1719783 Report

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>>1719501
Well, that doesn't make things easier because If it really was someone form Discord it would mean that someone was with her the whole stream just listening to her, because if she were to talk to the other person someone would notice.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 06:54:42 No.1719867 Report

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>>1719501
Wasn't there something about her playing with her APEX buddies? Idk if that was just a rrat or not but I remember coming across that at some point.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 07:03:07 No.1720024 Report

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Well lets see how EN and Mori handle it this time.
>>1719825

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 11:28:30 No.1724103 Report

Quoted By: >>1724201

>>1719194
>>1719328
The male voices came from discord, 5ch says she was teaming on Apex.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 11:36:45 No.1724201 Report

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>>1724103
And at that time she's still new so she has panic and then lied as it was the sound of her manager.

all nip then attacked her as she lied to her fan and downvote bomb her stream.

Also the reason about suspension is not from Cover but from her decide to self-punished herself.

The nip leaving her but the Eop decide to come in as they really hating idol culture.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 11:53:06 No.1724428 Report

Quoted By: >>1724791

>>1703684
Fubuki and Aqua lost the most when China blew up, she out of everyone would have had the most reason to refuse such a request if she didn't want to.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 12:19:29 No.1724791 Report

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>>1724428

No matter how much the changs want to spread hate. No matter how much they want us to all turn on each other over nothing. We know who the helpers are and they watch out for each other

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