>>17303852>famous>doesn't actually use view count or subscriber count or any metric relevant to fame/popularity>makes arbitrary claim of led zeppelin v eminem>uses salesHow did you also ascertain that eminem is 'more famous' than led zeppelin? You said he is more famous despite having lower sales? What is your basis for fame to compare with sales? fan count? polls? mentions in articles and books?
>gura more successful but not more famousArbitrary statement. I used subscriber and view count because I'm approximating current fans and reach. What's your basis for the 'more famous' statement on Ai?
I did not comment on 'more successful' because it isn't defined. More successful in what? Both these statements are arbitrary and illogical.
>talent is a vague termexactly, but somehow it's 'better' or 'worse' according to some guy's opinion. Since it's subjective and vague as you put it, I measure by number of dudes' opinions regarding who they prefer.
Hololive wins out by a huge margin.