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>>17632420
Kson is overly courteous and well behaved when she is a guest in a stream hosted by someone she isn't very familiar with. I don't see this being very funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 02:25:05 No.17633690 Report

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>>17632420
Sure, why not?

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Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:20:19 No.17639272 Report

Quoted By: >>17664066

>>17632420
It will be fun and chill. You know, enjoyment. As a result, it won't draw much attention on /vt/, because it won't have any good rrat food. There will be no major yab or drama. Even if something interesting came of it, it will be buried under 20 threads of something marginally-silly that some HoloEN says.
I am completely fine with that. I will enjoy it either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:23:06 No.17639401 Report

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It'll probably be ok. I don't think Kson is very interesting.
Verdict: Put stream on 2nd monitor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:28:14 No.17639637 Report

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>>17633596
>I don't see this being very funny.
This. I'm looking forward to the Pikamee episode though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:29:49 No.17639720 Report

Quoted By: >>17640414 >>17640473

>>17633596
What the fuck did she get out of going indie?

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Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:44:14 No.17640414 Report

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>>17639720
Peace of mind, more autonomy, and less bureaucracy. Things were lost, things were gained, and she seems happy with the choice. Also her model can puff its cheeks, which is magically adorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:45:24 No.17640473 Report

Quoted By: >>17640643 >>17641029

>>17639720
At least 30% more of a cut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:49:07 No.17640643 Report

Quoted By: >>17641029

>>17640473
It's more like +75% when you do the math.
Google takes 30%, Cover takes an unknown amount, but expected to be about 30%.
So going from 40% to 70% is adding 30 raw points, but relative to a previous 40 going up by 30 is a 75% increase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:49:27 No.17640655 Report

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>>17633103
ok dramafag

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Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:50:25 No.17640698 Report

Quoted By: >>17640794 >>17643491 >>17646230 >>17664320

>vshojo with kson
>vshojo with holoen
>vshojo with pikamee
>vshojo with trash talk
>vshojo with nijien

Wait a minute, isn't Vshojo reaping the rewards of all brand/streamer rivalries by collabing with everyone while holoen, kson and nijisanji are mutually in gray zones where it's harder for them to collab with each other and benefit from mutual parasitism that is birthed from collabs? It feels like Vshojo is really cleaning up here while holobronies, changs, nijiniggers and other fanbases are eager to tear each other's throats out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:52:12 No.17640770 Report

Quoted By: >>17645263

>2 vtubers I don't like or watch.
Don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:52:44 No.17640794 Report

Quoted By: >>17640958

>>17640698
>mutual parasitism
"all collabs are leeching" was supposed to be a meme, not something you actually believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:56:18 No.17640958 Report

Quoted By: >>17652681

>>17640794
Mutual parasitism means they both benefit from exposure to each other's fanbases, it's a good thing and that's the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 04:57:37 No.17641029 Report

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>>17640473
>>17640643
Her superchats and memberships are dramatically lower than as Coco, who was dramatically inclining towards the end anyway, so it is undoubtedly a paycut. In addition she should have waited for the 2nd anniversary to cash in while building up the Kson network further before leaving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 05:46:27 No.17643491 Report

Quoted By: >>17645823

>>17640698
This situation likely works the opposite way you're thinking though. The other parties probably stand to gain more since they get exposure to a new audience on Twitch where Mouse is averaging over 10k viewers at this point. While Mouse is getting what? Maybe half of a smaller fanbase showing up for a stream where she isn't really the one in the spotlight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:21:53 No.17645263 Report

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>>17640770
then why are you here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:26:39 No.17645498 Report

Quoted By: >>17645760

>speak of the devil
uhhh wasn't that Vox's line?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdABx8gOhSs&t=29

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:30:39 No.17645706 Report

Quoted By: >>17645805 >>17647150 >>17660397

I said, months ago, that when she quit hololive Kson should have joined Nijisanji. Everyone said "that's dumb, Kson is WAY too big for Nijisanji!"
But the reality is that without a group to do collabs with, you are just going to melt away. You need a group, even indies are forming groups. And when you are big, you have all of this bargaining power, you can make a really advantageous contract. I think she should have joined up back then, but even more so now.

If she joins Vshojo I think that's alright too. But I just don't like them very much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:31:50 No.17645760 Report

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>>17645498
You're right Ironmouse didn't exist before vox's debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:32:47 No.17645805 Report

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>>17645706
>even indies are forming groups
Indies aren't really forming companies or orgs though. It's more so they formed cliques. Though that might be what you were talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:33:00 No.17645823 Report

Quoted By: >>17646034

>>17643491
Mouse is getting exposure to Kson's donation base. Not all viewers are the same quality you know, some are more valuable than others

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:34:00 No.17645870 Report

Quoted By: >>17646034 >>17647150 >>17652717

100% sure KSON is going to join VShojo. They offer WAY more freedom in terms of content with probably close to 0 restrictions. They also have easier access to collabs anyways. Hololive needs to stop acting like an idol company and let their talents do whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:37:34 No.17646034 Report

Quoted By: >>17646164

>>17645823
I mean maybe but I'm pretty sure she's just doing it because she likes kson
>>17645870
I can't see this happening. If she ever did decide to join a company again then it probably would be them like you said.
But I'm pretty certain she wants to stay indie even if it means being less popular.

Also I don't even know if vshojo would want her to join. They like her but I don't think they want to accidentally piss off any zhangs if they have any aspirations for being more than just an EN company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:40:52 No.17646164 Report

Quoted By: >>17647150

>>17646034
I understand that she wants to be an indie. Why? Maybe for freedom or something?

But I say that getting the ability to collab with who you want is even better. When you're part of a group, you can do your own thing all you want. But you also have access to all these people that you can reach out to as well. The amount of people in nijisanji is huge, she would have access to ALL those people if she wants.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:42:33 No.17646230 Report

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>>17640698
You cracked the code anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 06:49:10 No.17646516 Report

Quoted By: >>17648302

Why is Ironmouse so popular with everyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 07:03:20 No.17647150 Report

Quoted By: >>17650416

>>17645706
>>17646164
You do know that Nijisanji is full of chinks so she'll still get blackroomed

>>17645870
>Kson will join VShojo
More like nope. She seems more interested in forming her own group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 07:29:32 No.17648302 Report

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>>17646516
Monkey self-inserts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 08:25:05 No.17650416 Report

Quoted By: >>17650760

>>17647150
>She seems more interested in forming her own group.
that's what you've been saying for the past what, 5 months?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 08:36:04 No.17650760 Report

Quoted By: >>17667049

>>17650416
If Kson wanted to join VShojo she can at any time. She has direct connections to Melody, one of its founders. But instead she rather associate herself with VOMS and/or saving 2view indies.
And the "forming her own group" claim isn't baseless, she'd been talking about forming a "Kson Gang"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 09:37:28 No.17652681 Report

Quoted By: >>17652730

>>17640958
That's called a symbiotic relationship, not mutual parasitism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 09:38:56 No.17652717 Report

Quoted By: >>17667049 >>17669749

>>17645870
Why would she join Vshojo? What can they offer her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 09:39:20 No.17652730 Report

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>>17652681
it's the same shit but the latter sounds more condescending, perfectly fitted for shitpost

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Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 09:41:25 No.17652790 Report

Quoted By: >>17653813

She is in a good mood lately, so she should be more proactive during conversation.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 10:18:46 No.17653813 Report

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>>17652790
>>17652790
I know she'll use her standard model but one day she is going to do an interview or major collab as Chibison and I am going to love it to pieces!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 11:36:10 No.17655947 Report

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>>17632420
ready.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 11:37:33 No.17655984 Report

Quoted By: >>17656676 >>17660491 >>17660566

True or false: Ironmouse is only as popular as she is because she's a sick girl who, intentionally or otherwise, milks pity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 12:04:11 No.17656676 Report

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>>17655984
False.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 13:31:20 No.17659077 Report

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>>17632420
I’m looking forward to it, I think they’ll have great chemistry

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 14:19:30 No.17660397 Report

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>>17645706
Why you faggot always falseflag as nijifag? We never ask for kson, cuz that just bring unnecessary drama

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 14:22:32 No.17660491 Report

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>>17655984
False. she's hilarious and sings like few can. I'm laughing or smiling 90% of the time she's live, without a single pity prompt, especially when she's going hysteric about something
.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 14:25:18 No.17660566 Report

Quoted By: >>17662567

>>17655984
She is purely saviourfag bait, she talks about men all the time and was lusting over men since the start. She is by far worse than Mori, but Vshojofags are cucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 15:32:08 No.17662567 Report

Quoted By: >>17662639

>>17660566
Just spotted the ignorant / non-watcher holofag. She barely talks about her condition. Congrats buddy, you get a cookie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 15:34:41 No.17662639 Report

Quoted By: >>17663172

>>17662567
When did I say anything about her talking about her condition? She talked and explained about it multiple times already, everyone knows she is sick and pity her. She is saviourfag bait. Also fucking funny how you can't say anything about her being all over men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 15:44:55 No.17662946 Report

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>>17632420
>shit on small indies
>collab with big indies
Why are vshojo so hypocritical?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 15:52:20 No.17663172 Report

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>>17662639
She is not milking her condition for views you idiot. If you just randomly tune in for a stream you will probably never knew she had anything, that's why people still to this day learn about it. I don't talk about her being all over men because I am not kid like you. I don't give a fuck, good for her and good for every girl out there. Companionship is healthy, maybe you should go out of your mamas basement and realize it for yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 16:20:54 No.17664066 Report

Quoted By: >>17664295

>>17633596
>>17639272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzh_tePN6o8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 16:28:14 No.17664295 Report

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>>17664066
??

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 16:28:54 No.17664320 Report

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>>17640698
Big Japanese companies vs small American company. Please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 17:46:14 No.17667049 Report

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>>17652717
Benefits of a corpo like a big community, legal and tech help but without any of the shackles that JP corpos impose. All at the cost of giving them a share of merch and sponsors(?) dunno if sponsors are included but probably.

>>17650760
The problem again with Kson joining them is that VShojo is located in Twitch and has an EN fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 18:38:57 No.17669302 Report

Quoted By: >>17669828

>>17632420
Nux was right

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 18:48:25 No.17669698 Report

Quoted By: >>17669828

>>17633596
Kson was never funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 18:49:32 No.17669749 Report

Quoted By: >>17669828

>>17652717
Whores strong together

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 18:51:12 No.17669828 Report

Quoted By: >>17669944

>>17669302
>>17669698
>>17669749
Oh! It's time to rest in the rice fields

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Feb 2022 18:53:39 No.17669944 Report

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>>17669828
Here comes the anti kson defamation league

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